Hey, that didn't suck!

[Guest Anglesault]

That show was actually pretty good, with one glaring exception.

 

WHAT ON EARTH was that “Brock annihilates Kurt Angle” footage supposed to accomplish? I mean really. It blew the “first contact” pop that should have been used for something big. It blew Brock as an underdog. It blew “Brock gets his revenge on Angle” It blew “What will happen when they fight?” –Obviously, Brock will kill him, if this is what happens 1 on 3. Was there ANY POINT TO IT?

 

Aside from that, Benoit looked pretty good, IMO. He beat Big Show clean, beat him up after the match, and almost fought off four guys.

 

Aside from anything dealing with Brock, (Which is what really matters, but whatever) Angle is really beginning to look competent. He doesn’t look like a fool, he even looks like an equal mastermind with Heyman.

 

Team Angle looks pretty damned cool. Shelton Benjamin has been built up really well, and Shawn Stasiak or whoever the hell he is has the “good look” Those double team moves (The Super kick/German suplex rocked) are really nice, and that submission is great.

 

While Brock/Angle absolutely cannot end well, these two months in between might actually help Kurt a lot.

[Guest CanadianChick]

AS, the point of the footage was to explain why Angle was injured. Duh

[Guest AndrewTS]

Shelton Benjamin and CHARLIE HAAS!!

 

How dare you confuse him with Shawn Stasiak!

 

And I agree about the footage--as did most people here. However, Team Angle f'n rules, and Benoit made them look like gold. If ONLY BROCK would have been in there and got some of the beatdown as well, it would have worked out a little better.

 

And Angle over Benoit, choking him with the crutch...the knee brace, the bald head, and the pissed off attitude--anyone else get a major early-Austin vibe from that?

[Guest Slapnuts00]

and our lucky winner is AndrewTS who was the first one in the one and only thread to mention that Anglesault would not be pleased with the footage. Your prize is a whole thread of complaining! Congradulations!

[Guest AndrewTS]

It was a pretty safe guess. And kinda ruins any need for Brock to get payback since he just injured Angle and has him hobbling out on crutches.

[Guest Downhome]

That show was actually pretty good, with one glaring exception.

 

WHAT ON EARTH was that “Brock annihilates Kurt Angle” footage supposed to accomplish? I mean really. It blew the “first contact” pop that should have been used for something big. It blew Brock as an underdog. It blew “Brock gets his revenge on Angle” It blew “What will happen when they fight?” –Obviously, Brock will kill him, if this is what happens 1 on 3. Was there ANY POINT TO IT?

 

Aside from that, Benoit looked pretty good, IMO. He beat Big Show clean, beat him up after the match, and almost fought off four guys.

 

Aside from anything dealing with Brock, (Which is what really matters, but whatever) Angle is really beginning to look competent. He doesn’t look like a fool, he even looks like an equal mastermind with Heyman.

 

Team Angle looks pretty damned cool. Shelton Benjamin has been built up really well, and Shawn Stasiak or whoever the hell he is has the “good look” Those double team moves (The Super kick/German suplex rocked) are really nice, and that submission is great.

 

While Brock/Angle absolutely cannot end well, these two months in between might actually help Kurt a lot.

While I don't agree with what you put down, as I loved it and actually DO see the point, I will say this...

 

...I thought your statement would be a lot negative than what you have laid out here.

 

I'm shocked really, and very pleased, at your response. :D

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Well, I believe that Angle can do more damage to someone injured than not right now.

 

Just think Bret Hart in new Hart Foundation

[Guest Downhome]

Think of The Hart Foundation people, Bret was put in a fucking WHEELCHAIR, and it made the angle that much more of a classic, the same goes for Kurt on crutches.

 

Give it time, this is going somewhere people...

 

...and somewhere awesome.

 

Brock/Angle will feud throughout 2003, and it will be great, mark my words damnit.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

The footage will be used to prove why Angle is afraid of Lesnar and why he won't get a title shot. Which makes his win at the Rumble all that more important and their match at WM all that more important. They shouldn't touch each other any more until that match.

[Guest Downhome]

The footage will be used to prove why Angle is afraid of Lesnar and why he won't get a title shot. Which makes his win at the Rumble all that more important and their match at WM all that more important. They shouldn't touch each other any more until that match.

Agreed, 100%.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

Brock/Angle will feud throughout 2003, and it will be great, mark my words damnit.

You're right! There's no way Vince can screw it up!!! Like um, the WCW Invasion....or the nWo returning....or Chris Jericho as the undisputed champion....or Brock's undefeated push....ummm....I hope you're right...

[Guest Downhome]

Brock/Angle will feud throughout 2003, and it will be great, mark my words damnit.

You're right! There's no way Vince can screw it up!!! Like um, the WCW Invasion....or the nWo returning....or Chris Jericho as the undisputed champion....or Brock's undefeated push....ummm....I hope you're right...

Hush you! So far it's been great, and they show signs of planning for the future...

 

...Angle/Brock will meet at WM, but it will only be the begining of their feud, and their fued will NOT only be over the world title. I hope they build this on into one of the classic personal feuds, that begins over the title, and climax's to so much more.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Brock/Angle will feud throughout 2003, and it will be great, mark my words damnit.

You're right! There's no way Vince can screw it up!!! Like um, the WCW Invasion....or the nWo returning....or Chris Jericho as the undisputed champion....or Brock's undefeated push....ummm....I hope you're right...

I'll use an example.

 

Like when Austin was going to get his first WWF Title.

 

They booked that just right.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I'll use an example.

 

Like when Austin was going to get his first WWF Title.

 

They booked that just right.

Totally different time. Ever since they screwed up the Love Triangle storyline, it seems like nothing has been booked correctly.

[Guest Downhome]

Brock/Angle begins over the title, they build to Mania. Brock overcomes the odds of Team Angle and wins the championship (the face will win this year, it's written in the stars).

 

After that, Team Angle seeks revenge, leading to Brock/Angle in some sort of gimmick match at the next PPV.

 

They trade the title one or two times over a series of months, leading to one of them costing the title to someone else, perhaps to Benoit. Benoit goes on to fued with someone else, while Brock/Angle gets heated simply because one cost the other the title.

 

Suspecions begin to arise over whatever, they get something interesting going on with Heyman, blah blah blah. We could see a double face/heel turn, one of them gets the title back eventually, etc...

 

They could easily turn this into a very personal feud, over the title, and so much more.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I'm not saying it can't work, I'm saying Vince can easily screw it up. He already dented it by not having Brock be undefeated going into his match with Kurt (presumebly Kurt would give him his first loss and win the title which would allow the feud to continue. Now, it's like well Kurt is the champion Brock is gonna beat him...so now what? ya know...)

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Hey, I thought that Rock vs. Austin WM 17 was a cruise control feud/match... but then they had to get debra involved and turn Austin heel... Sheeeeesh.

 

However, the WWF has vested interest in both Kurt and Brock - so I can't see them purposely screwing it up like they did with WCW and the invasion.

 

Anyone else think they need a show just to explain why Heyman has such rage toward Brock? I mean, we know he used to be his agent, and once Brock got a mind of his own and once he started taking control of his career and stopped listening to heyman that heyman got angry and went with the big show. But there should be some extra explanation. Like when paul always has to have his way, and he is trying to compensate for the loss of ecw, and has a napoleon complex, etc. etc. We all know he hates Brock, but I'd like to know why and, you know, care.

 

Character development is so integral to a great feud. They should also try to get over Angles motivation to screw brock, beyond the "I love gooooooooold" schtick and into something more psychological. Brock doesn't have the personality to pull his 'quest' off, so it is up to the villains to supply it.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Hmm--point well made about the Hart Foundation comparison. Angle looks like a dangerous muthafuckin' mastermind, and if Heyman isn't used as much, since Angle will do quite well as a mouthpiece on his own, his team can wreak havoc while he gets better, and in generally make Brock's life hell.

 

Just hope that they don't have Team Angle get squashed by Brock in a handicap match and kill them right out of the gate.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

How many more smackdowns before the rumble? And then, how many more smackdowns before WM?

 

Brock vs. Benoit @ NWO might happen - or it could be Brock/Benoit vs. Team Angle/Big Show. Or Brock vs. Team Angle.

 

Just throwin out possiblities.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

All I know is that seeing Benoit being held up by Team Angle while being screamed at by Angle just gave me a really good feeling, and I've never really felt this good about something in a while. Then the final shot of everyone around Kurt and NOT Heyman looking victorious while Benoit was virtually dead on the ground was AWESOME. Even if they bomb it next week, I got my reaffirmation in wrestling to make me excited again.

[Guest Ram]

I think the best thing is...

 

MATCHING TIGHTS!

 

Now that's a Foundation!

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I agree.

 

They have all the characteristics of a great team.

 

-A team name.

-Double team moves.

-Matching tights.

 

Who cares if they are good in the ring, they've already got 95% of the battle won!

[Guest Downhome]

There are MANY possibilites right now, but now this question...

 

...who will be Brock's allies to go against this stable. We have Benoit, but who else?

 

Do NOT mention Edge, ok?

[Guest AndrewTS]

I agree.

 

They have all the characteristics of a great team.

 

-A team name.

-Double team moves.

-Matching tights.

 

Who cares if they are good in the ring, they've already got 95% of the battle won!

Heheh--also, this is one of the first times in a long time that WWE introduced a team with a logical connection, rather than repackaging two workers that were going nowhere, or just randomly sticking two midcarders together, one of which was massively over. I dig the pairing, and if they put on decent matches, they'll be pretty much set.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I thought that Shelton Benjamin did a pretty good job the few times that he appeared on Heat.

 

This could only help that guy out.

 

Hehehehe...maybe they should get the Tag Gold sometime

[Guest Downhome]

I thought that Shelton Benjamin did a pretty good job the few times that he appeared on Heat.

 

This could only help that guy out.

 

Hehehehe...maybe they should get the Tag Gold sometime

They'll have it before Wrestlemania.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I doubt they will give Brock any help. He is Austin 2003, 'member? Who thinks we'll be seeing Angle in a wheelchair and Brock knocking him over, and then taking the wheel of an ambulance? Benoit will be his ken shamrock, Edge will be his goldust, Billy and Rey his LOD.

[Guest AndrewTS]

I really would hate to see Brock booked that way--but Edge being tossed into a Crapper 3:16 is amusing.

[Guest Choken One]

This angle just might be the best angle in years. It was started in Early November with Brock and Show and led to this Classic masterpiece.

 

Angle has really stepped up now.

 

They can go miles with this...

 

Puts a smile on my face to see That Vince has a clue for at least ONE show...Just wish they give us an idea what they want to do on Raw.

 

I expect Beniot to fall short of winning at Rumble. Brock to Miss out the Rumble due to nefarious means from Heyman and Team Angle. Then I'd likely see Brock and Beniot at NWO for a #contendership match, While Angle takes NWO off and Shelton and Charlie bring home the Tag gold off NU Tag Champs Edge and Kidman.

 

I like Team Angle since It isn't Heyman's Alliance or whatever, Heyman can merely play J.J Dillon to Angle's Flair. The best part of this is? The great use of the Big Show, keeps him from killing the midcard and is used sproadically as A Killer Enforcer for Angle and Comic Foil.

 

Just fucking great.

 

As for the Question about Brock's Allies, I think Beniot and Most likely Edge will be it. Think about it, Edge has the most history besides Beniot with Angle...So why WOULDN'T Brock seek Edge? Who else works? Kidman? Rey? Rikishi? I'd Love to see another Amatur be thrown in this but i don't know of any other WWE employed Amatuers. If they wanted to, They could even bring Rulon Gardner in for The Guest Enforcer (Apprently, Gardner is close with Kurt and Benjamin). Damn, so many options.

[Guest jester]

Let's hope Stephanie doesn't get injected into this feud to "save" it come Wrestlemania.