Guest Downhome Report post Posted March 8, 2002 Yeah, you know, the "WWF version" of this event, lol. I'm sure you all know what Bash at the Beach I'm speaking of, so I need not go into that. My point is this... ...could we see a "part II" at this coming RAW? The stage is set, Hall/Nash/Hogan Vs. Rocky/Austin, in a tag team match. The sides are uneven, and we all know that SOMETHING must happen in this match to truly push this angle to the next leval... ...well, if the WWF was smart they would! My prediction, is that Hall/Nash/Hogan will beat down Rocky/Austin, as a ref is down, the nWo will beat down the WWF guys. Then, when all seems lost for the "big two", the oh so familier music blasts through the arena, and "he" walks down to the ring in his oh so familier flamboyant way. He makes like he get's in the ring, and the nWo runs out. He stands in the ring over the bloody and beaten Rocky/Austin, and he begins to help Austin up, but he superkicks him instead! He begins to help Rocky up, but he superkicks him also... ...this man is none other than HBK. Sure, I know this would be the most cliched way it could go down, I know that much of the net would hate to see it happen, and I know most on the net would see this coming a MILE away. BUT, I also know that MANY casual fans would love to see this happen, and MANY casual fans wouldn't expect him to turn and join the nWo. They would be on their FEET, cheering for his return, hoping to see him join with Rocky/Austin, and to help them defeat the nWo. HBK's doing this, could give the nWo that extra edge, the "hot angle" to really get the casual fans back into this angle after the lackluster past few weeks of progression. I also TRULY feel this will happen, at least SOMEWHAT like this. It has been reported today that HBK is indeed coming back, either to come back at tonights Smackdown (which he obviously didn't return tonight), or sometime before or at WrestleMania, and I feel it will be at RAW, this Monday night! Anyhow... ...this is just my idea, well, not my idea as I'm sure MANY others have this same angle thought out. I simply wanted to post it, and get your thoughts on it, so... ...your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 8, 2002 maybe, though if HBK returns then there will be 2 nWo members without opponents for mania. rock and austin are both occupied, and introducing HBK now would be overkill. rather they should do it after mania, as they have pretty much cemented in their main events now, and there is no room for HBK. mania will sell on hogan-rock, use HBK to pop a buyrate further down the track, maybe for backlash or even the may ppv (forgotten its name, judgement day??). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mickberna Report post Posted March 8, 2002 I would be surprised if HBK decided to start actually doing some work for the company that pays him, but then again, it seems possible, especially after seeing Scott Hall's "KLIQ" tights on Smackdown. It's an interesting possibility, but my first inclination is to say that it probably won't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 8, 2002 I was thinking that Shawn could have come out last night and said he would be rock and austin's partner. They had time to kill and it was in San Antonio. But VM is probably right it might be a little overkill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted March 8, 2002 Actually if the wwf wants HBK to make a splash it would be smart for them to do it on RAW in the scenario mentioned above. Some on the net would predict it, but it would get over. I don't think it's overkill. However, I see something else that could happen depending on how the wwf plans things long term. Or how the wwf sees the value of the nWo members. What if the nWo turn on Hulk Hogan? (I got a scenario, but won't get into it) What if Eric Bischoff shows up? The SPLIT anyone? I said it before the wwf could split BEFORE Mania which would explain the night after Mania's two live shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted March 8, 2002 The WWF cancelled the second live show the night after Mania so there is only Raw scheduled. I'm thinking if they didn't use Shawn Michaels in his own hometown, they don't have any immediate plans for him at this point. When The Rock was doing his promo against the NWO, at one point he said "You're Next", which immediately made me start thinking of Goldberg. I know he has said he doesn't want to come back and he's sitting out a huge contract, but the NWO hasn't done anything for ratings so you know Vince is desperate and will try anything. And is it a good idea to wear tights that say "Klique"? The casual fan has no idea what that means and it may just cause more confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted March 8, 2002 That's why I think something is up with the Kliq. Hall didn't wear that in the nWo or maybe he did and I can't remember. It seems if it is a new gear he knows what the plan is. For all we know maybe HBK has the kliq gear and so does Nash. I was also thinking Goldberg, but yeah right. I rather put more hope in HBK and I'm one fan who is sick and tired of his Ultimate Warrior "returns" that have been circling the net since he lost to Austin. Actually, if the plan is to bring him back like this I think it would have been wasted last night. Now if he doesn't show on RAW yep he's toast. I wouldn't even had this in my mind if it wasn't for the dirtsheet writers still insisting he's coming. The split still can happen with the scenario above even if the wwf cancelled the show. I mean it is pretty hard to explain this to fans with Mania coming up and with all the hooplah. One smackdown to explain the split with the promotion of Mania in full gear is conflicting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 8, 2002 If that was going to happen they should of done it on Smackdown. Unless the WWF didn't want to turn him in his hometown like they did SCSA in his home-state. If HBK doesn't appear on Raw or Smackdown nex week....the WWF is wasting big money on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eraser2K2 Report post Posted March 8, 2002 Well if Nash isn't going to wrestle, why not actually keep HBK on Austin and Rock's side? Id find 3-on-3 more interesting than 4-on-2. Have HBK actually come down on the nWo's side, before turning on them maybe. I dont think HBK would fit good with Hogan either. I dunno what it is, but I can't see the two of them together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 9, 2002 Actually in this case 4 on 2 would probably be more interesting then 3 on 3. 4 on 2 builds up anticapation over who will come out and save the outnumbered "good guys". 3 on 3 is more predictable not to mention that 6 man main event level matches are done to death by WWF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted March 9, 2002 When Rock said, "Get ready, Your candy ass is next" it wasn't a Goldberg reference, look at the shirt he was wearing, that's what it says. I want HBK to comeback, but it should be on the face side for right now, the shouldn't "Bagwell" his babyface heat by turning him so soon after being off TV for more than a year. But the nWo don't have any advantage over the WWF right now. The angle has been tit for tat. When Hall and Nash invaded WCW they dominated, that's what got them over as monster heels, then Hogan turned and you have the 2nd biggest angle in wrestling history. Shawn should be held off until after Mania, because there is no place for him to make a huge impact at the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted March 9, 2002 Come on, this is the WWF........these days we never get the element of surprise. Everything is announced ahead of time. How they would do this is that they would announce Shawn was going to be on Raw for a few weeks before the show, and then they would just have him cut a promo at the end of the show uninspiredly announcing he would go NWO. No beatdown, no real turn.......just a promo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 9, 2002 I enjoyed HBK's career but I don't want him to come back. He's had his turn. He's a shell of his former self and the fans would be really disappointed of what he has become, just like we'll be disappointed when the NWO actually wrestles and the matches are horrible. I've said it before. If a guy is retired. Let it stay that way. It's time to create new stars, not rehashing guys who are past their primes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted March 9, 2002 I still have a sinking feeling if Michaels comes back that on some Raw well see The NWO (Hall , Nash, Hogan) vs DX (HHH, X-Pac, Michaels) and then right when the match is about to start theyll all join up , a la the NWO wolfpac/NWO Black and White merger, with NWO shirts with black green and white colors. Let me stress : I dont want to see this happen!! based off of current booking and all the re-hashing it wouldnt surprise me in the least. I was a fan of Michaels' work but he'll be a shell of his former self if he comes back as ghelmet said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted March 9, 2002 4 on 2 builds up anticapation over who will come out and save the outnumbered "good guys". 3 on 3 is more predictable not to mention that 6 man main event level matches are done to death by WWF. I don't see many six-man matches done with the main eventers. Anyway, I would like to see it, as long as it goes in an interesting direction. I don't care if he's a "shell of his former self" or not. I'm sure he wouldn't be awful. Of course he's not going to be as good as he once was, but it'd be worth it in exchange for something like this to actually occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ignatz Belzner Report post Posted March 9, 2002 How about putting Nash and HBK up against the thus-far unopposed tag champions APA at Wrestlemania? It'll be last-minute as all hell, but what else are Nash, Farooq, and Bradshaw doing? I mean, why blow the APA -Billy & Chuck match on free TV (and man, I was so depressed that I couldn't look forward to it anymore *wink wink nudge nudge*) unless something's gonna happen down the line? Then go back to tried-and-true nWo methods of having any members defend the tag titles, and let Hall and Nash run with them for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted March 9, 2002 That would be cool if HBK was at Raw, but I doubt it. HBK will be the special ref for the Rock/Hogan match. He will call it straight done the middle. Then the next night on Raw, the Rock will thanks HBK for calling it down the middle. Later on in Raw, the Rock will be getting beat down by the nWo. HBK will run down, and help the Rock. Rock and HBK will form a friendship. Then at Backlash, one way or another, HBK will turn against the Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted March 9, 2002 Didn't Billy and Chuck win that match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites