Lincoln statue offends Condederates...

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

To all my brothers south of the Mason-Dixon Line -- we won the war, get over it...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/12/26/lin...e.ap/index.html

 

Lincoln statue stirs controversy in Virginia

Thursday, December 26, 2002 Posted: 4:59 PM EST (2159 GMT)

 

RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- Abraham Lincoln is returning to the capital of the Confederacy, much to the chagrin of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

 

Five days before the Civil War ended in April 1865, the president and his youngest child, Tad, traveled to still-smoldering Richmond soon after Southern forces abandoned the city in flames.

 

On April 5, 2003, the 138th anniversary of that visit, a bronze statue of the pair commissioned by the United States Historical Society will be unveiled at the Civil War Visitor Center of the National Park Service.

 

"Here is a national hero, a small boy, and a beautiful city by the James River, all united again," said Robert Kline, chairman of the nonprofit group society, which works on behalf of museums and other groups on projects of historic and artistic value. "This time Lincoln's in Richmond for all time."

 

Richmond, home to towering statues of Confederacy figures including Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and J.E.B. Stuart, was abandoned after Union forces led by Gen. Ulysses S. Grant attacked on April 2, 1865.

 

The Sons of Confederate Veterans view the Lincoln statue as "a slap in the face of a lot of brave men and women who went through four years of unbelievable hell fighting an invasion of Virginia led by President Lincoln," Brag Bowling, the SCV Virginia commander, said Thursday. The group had only recently learned of the statue, and had no immediate plans to protest.

 

The life-size statue by sculptor David Frech will show Lincoln and his son on a bench against a granite wall. The words "To Bind Up The Nation's Wounds" will be etched into a capstone.

 

Elaine Mancini, spokeswoman for the historical society, said the cost of the statue has not been determined. The society is raising money by selling miniatures of the statue, she said.

 

 

A bronze statue of Abraham Lincoln and son, Tad, will be unveiled in downtown Richmond, Virginia, in April...

[Guest EricMM]

So lets see, it's ok to fly the confederate flag, which is a total slap in the face against african americans, but not ok to have lincoln, who fucking did hold the country together. I'll never understand people's double standards.

[Guest DrTom]

it's ok to fly the confederate flag, which is a total slap in the face against african americans

The Confederacy was about a lot more than slavery. The stigma associated with the Confederate flag is a political agenda and nothing more, since it pays to be offended in this era of political correctness.

 

but not ok to have lincoln, who fucking did hold the country together.

He did? How come there was a Confederacy, then, and how come they had their own president? I'm not saying Lincoln didn't take lemons and make lemonade, but to say he held the country together when the southern half flipped him the bird and went their own way isn't really accurate.

 

I'll never understand people's double standards.

Me either. Regardless to my opinion of it, the Confederate flag is definitely a sensitive issue for people, but they're OK with flying it. This statue is the same thing. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

I've already disowned the political and moral values of my region. The South is good for food and scenery, but I'm downright ashamed to live here at times. Let the flag stay up, or force Mississippi and Georgia to change their STATE flags (which would appear on official documents and such, whereas the confederate flag is more of a historical emblem). It isn't even the REAL Confederate flag. It's the battle flag. On these same grounds, let Lincoln stay, or take down all Lincoln statues around the country. Southerners such as Calhoun and Lee and Jackson (Stonewall) all have statues in the Washington area, and you hear zero complaints about them.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

The Sons of Confederate Veterans view the Lincoln statue as "a slap in the face of a lot of brave men and women who went through four years of unbelievable hell fighting an invasion of Virginia led by President Lincoln," Brag Bowling, the SCV Virginia commander, said Thursday. The group had only recently learned of the statue, and had no immediate plans to protest.

Whose fault is it that Virginia was invaded? The South started the War, and Lincoln wanted to save the republic. It was amazes me that today some people are pro-confederacy. They might try to claim the Civil War was about States Rights, but the Confederacy wanted to keep slavery. I'm all for small gov't, and even states rights but when your fighting to keep slavery that crosses the line.

[Guest EricMM]

Well, like you said Verne, they weren't fighting for JUST slavery, but there are as many unavoidable associations with the confederate flag as there are with Lincoln. OMG pennies have lincoln better ban them...

 

From what I remember of history, it wasn't exactly Lincoln's fault that the south ceceded. From the creation of the United States, the South was very different culturally from the North. The way we read history in my ~1400-1856 history class, there was no way that America could have stayed together without conflict at SOME point. We were just too different clubs trying to own the same clubhouse. In the end we had to fight. The less countries around here the better IMO. Not that the present ones are bad, that's not what I mean at all, but look at the Chaos of Europe which has lots of countries near each other.

[Guest NoCalMike]

One nation, one flag. There is no more confederacy, therefore the flag should be held up as being meaningless.

[Guest Ash Ketchum]

OMG pennies have lincoln better ban them...

 

Oops. Lincoln's on the $5 bill. Those gotta go, too.

 

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