Kurt Cobain Murdered?

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Banky, Are you seriously making ALL this up? I am going to go through EVERYTHING you put down here, and show why it is COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL SHIT.

 

"Have any of you read anything about his life? Any of you? Maybe some, but I'm sure the majority haven't. This is a guy who was obsessed with the fact that suicide ran in his family. He talked about killing himself many times before doing so. Moreover, he had OD'd enough times that many lost count. All of these statements were mentioned by numerous people."

 

I am currently reading "Come As You Are" a biography on Kurt written while HE WAS ALIVE. And I have read numerous websites from the PI who Courtney hired. And I haven't read anything where he said he wanted to kill himself. ANYWHERE.

 

"He was physically ill with stomach problems"

 

Kurt was BORN WITH STOMACH PROBLEMS. He had them when he was a kid.

 

"His wife said she'd leave him, the band said they'd break up, and the record label said they'd drop him if he didn't quit."

 

Courtney NEVER would have left him. KURT was going for a divorce and custody of Frances. Dave Grohl said that the band was going to break up anyway, and I never heard/read anything on the record label to drop him. In fact, he was going to start another band with some friends.

 

"Now, as far as the suicide itself, its quit possible that Cobain was competant enough at the time to pull the trigger. As far as 3 times the normail limit, keep in mind that he has MANY times defied the odds during past suicide attempts. This guy had been swimming in heroin for the past 3 years, I'm sure he had a tolerance."

 

A tolerance? Is that the best you can come up with? Even if he had a high tolerance, HE WAS INJECTED WITH THREE TIMES THE KILLING AMOUNT OF HEROIN. That means if you take how much he was injected with, divide it by three, and still injected it into him, HE STILL WOULD HAVE DIED. When he was injected with it, HE DIED INSTANTLY. INSTANTLY. THE SECOND IT WENT ALL THE WAY IN, KABLAMO. He wouldn't have been able to lift the shot gun to his mouth, AND pull the trigger.

 

"Never once has there been an investigation into it, never once has ANY of his friends spoken up on the matter, rather it is conspiracy theorists, and people just trying to make an extra buck from the deceased making these claims."

 

That's why people are trying to get the case REOPENED. And people speaking up about it either get negative media attention or get threatened to be sued by Courtney.

 

"All I ask is for people to get the real facts straight"

 

And I ask you to do the same.

 

"And it wasn't Cobain who was threatening to loeave Courtney, it was vice versa"

 

I am assuming you know Courtney personally, and she either paid you off or threatened to kill you if you didn't say that.

 

"Kurt was not happy months before his death."

 

Where exactly did you get this? Days before he died, when he got out of rehab, he looked and felt great. And he LOVED his daughter like there was no end. He may have not wanted to stay with Courtney or stay in the music scene, but he loved his daughter, and he WAS happy.

 

"Cobain's OD's were done with suicidal intentions - why else would he keep doing so much to the point of dying? Why did he unwrap 50 individual painkillers and miz them with champagne in Rome? Tell me that? Did Courtney Love do that too?"

 

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ARE. YOU. TALKING. ABOUT. He did not unwrap 50 painkillers and mix them with champagne in Rome. First of all, IT WASN'T PAIN KILLERS. It was the drug known as "DATE RAPE DRUG" that knocks you out for a while, and makes you lose your memory. Second, HE DIDN'T DRINK ALCOHOL. So he DIDN'T MIX them with Champagne. And Yes, Courtney DID do that, as hours before she went to Rome, reporters saw her with a box of the drug, and she was talking about what happens when the drug is mixed with champagne.

 

"There is so much bullshit in your answers I don't know where to start. Like Cobain wasn't concerned about being rich - BULLSHIT. This guy would call his record label when he felt his music videos weren't being played enough on MTV. His career moves were pre-medetated so he could walk the fine line of mainstream success with underground credibility. He didn't piss on the money given to him, he enjoyed it. He wasn't the anti rock star as he WANTED you all to the think, he was an insecure lost person who tried to have a cool image. He wasn't cool, and he knew it. The guy wanted money - simple as that."

 

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE? He never wanted to be rich. COURTNEY wanted to be rich. Did you ever read about their house in that little book of yours? Where Courtney had a FUCKING MANSION BUILT and next to it was a little cottage that Kurt had built for himself.

 

"With this private investigator, why hasn't any 'real' police whatsoever moved on his evidence?"

 

That is what we ALL are trying to figure out.

 

"Please, read Cross' Heavier Than Heaven and discuss this matter afterwards."

 

If you got all your information from that book, I think I'll pass. Because even I can make up complete and utter bullshit about Kurt and Courtney.

[Guest Lethargic]

Man, it must be cool to look at the world with blinders on and only see what you want to see. I wish I lived like that.

 

Personally I think the funniest thing in all this is that 99.9% of the reasons that believe put out to say that Courtney killed Kurt comes from a PI HIRED BY COURTNEY.

 

The second funniest is that the only completely authorized book on his life that had tremendous support and help from Courtney, Grohl and Novoselic, along with other family and friends, is considered "bullshit" while some other unauthorized biography that was quickly thrown together just to make a quick buck while the band was hot, is treated like gospel.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Personally I think the funniest thing in all this is that 99.9% of the reasons that believe put out to say that Courtney killed Kurt comes from a PI HIRED BY COURTNEY.

 

The second funniest is that the only completely authorized book on his life that had tremendous support and help from Courtney, Grohl and Novoselic, along with other family and friends, is considered "bullshit" while some other unauthorized biography that was quickly thrown together just to make a quick buck while the band was hot, is treated like gospel.

How is a PI hired by Courtney saying that Courtney plotted the murder of Kurt funny? Courtney's story has so many flaws in it, that the only logical explanation is that Courtney killed/had someone kill Kurt. But you probably don't believe in that either. What? What? Is that Aliens above your house, abducting cows?

 

Of course Courtney is going to support an "authorized" biography on Kurt, when she had a hand in putting it together. And how is "Come As You Are" unauthorized and quickly thrown together? It has quotes from Kurt to the Author, and was written before Kurt died, unlike "Heavier then Heaven."

 

 

Oh but wait. THAT IS FUNNY! HAR HAR HAR.

[Guest cynicalprofit]

Ive talked about killing myself 5 times a day, but its not like im gonna do it, its just fun to fuck with peoples heads like that.

[Guest Lethargic]

Personally I think the funniest thing in all this is that 99.9% of the reasons that believe put out to say that Courtney killed Kurt comes from a PI HIRED BY COURTNEY.  

 

The second funniest is that the only completely authorized book on his life that had tremendous support and help from Courtney, Grohl and Novoselic, along with other family and friends, is considered "bullshit" while some other unauthorized biography that was quickly thrown together just to make a quick buck while the band was hot, is treated like gospel.

How is a PI hired by Courtney saying that Courtney plotted the murder of Kurt funny? Courtney's story has so many flaws in it, that the only logical explanation is that Courtney killed/had someone kill Kurt. But you probably don't believe in that either. What? What? Is that Aliens above your house, abducting cows?

 

Of course Courtney is going to support an "authorized" biography on Kurt, when she had a hand in putting it together. And how is "Come As You Are" unauthorized and quickly thrown together? It has quotes from Kurt to the Author, and was written before Kurt died, unlike "Heavier then Heaven."

 

 

Oh but wait. THAT IS FUNNY! HAR HAR HAR.

I didn't say the situation was funny. I said YOU are funny cause you're stupid enough to actually say all that total bullshit you said and even worse...believe it.

 

You actually topped yourself in this post though by making a alien abduction joke toward ME when YOU are the one supporting an outlandish conspiracy theory. Making a lot of sense there.

[Guest Choken One]

Why can't you accept the fact that Kurt Cobain is dead. Theorys aren't worthwhile, this isn't important in the long run as MLK or JFK...it's just another sad chapter of Music.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Personally I think the funniest thing in all this is that 99.9% of the reasons that believe put out to say that Courtney killed Kurt comes from a PI HIRED BY COURTNEY.  

 

The second funniest is that the only completely authorized book on his life that had tremendous support and help from Courtney, Grohl and Novoselic, along with other family and friends, is considered "bullshit" while some other unauthorized biography that was quickly thrown together just to make a quick buck while the band was hot, is treated like gospel.

How is a PI hired by Courtney saying that Courtney plotted the murder of Kurt funny? Courtney's story has so many flaws in it, that the only logical explanation is that Courtney killed/had someone kill Kurt. But you probably don't believe in that either. What? What? Is that Aliens above your house, abducting cows?

 

Of course Courtney is going to support an "authorized" biography on Kurt, when she had a hand in putting it together. And how is "Come As You Are" unauthorized and quickly thrown together? It has quotes from Kurt to the Author, and was written before Kurt died, unlike "Heavier then Heaven."

 

 

Oh but wait. THAT IS FUNNY! HAR HAR HAR.

I didn't say the situation was funny. I said YOU are funny cause you're stupid enough to actually say all that total bullshit you said and even worse...believe it.

 

You actually topped yourself in this post though by making a alien abduction joke toward ME when YOU are the one supporting an outlandish conspiracy theory. Making a lot of sense there.

I am funny because I am listing facts when people just put stuff off the top of their head about this?

[Guest Lethargic]

You're funny because you post outlandish rumors and unsupported claims and act like they ARE facts and you act like the facts are outlandish rumors and unsupported claims.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

You're funny because you post outlandish rumors and unsupported claims and act like they ARE facts and you act like the facts are outlandish rumors and unsupported claims.

JusticeforKurt.com

 

 

 

Thats all I have to say about YOUR rumors and claims supported by a "authorized" book.

[Guest Banky]

My GOD, read Charles Cross' "Heavier Than Heaven". I didn't make anything up. If you want me to make a citation from the actual book with a page number - then I will. You fuckwads are honestly so concerned about fucking conspiracy theories that you don't even try to find the truth. Don't go to some fucking geocities webpage - read a book with input from all of Cobain's family and friends. Not some whipped together production for money.

 

I will give an answer to every fucking thing I've said if you want, just to shut up you 15 year old know-it-alls obsessed with controversy. You all are just fanboys without an objective point of view. Rememver that no one will take your opinions seriously if you don't have any proof.

 

And remember this, and ALWAYS remember this:

 

There has never, or will ever, be an investigation into the possible murder of Kurt Cobain. No one has mentioned it except this PI - and it was such bullshit no police agency will ever follow up on it. Thats why myself and Lethargic are right, while the rest of you fanboys remain clueless fucks.

[Guest Incandenza]

You fuckwads are honestly so concerned about fucking conspiracy theories that you don't even try to find the truth.

 

That just about covers my feelings on this thread.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

As someone who's read everything he could ever find out about Nirvana/cobain, who's emailed people involved in the investigation, who's talked to heroin junkies about what it would be like to be on that amount of heroin, I think I know a little about what I'm talking about.

 

First off, a fact. Cobain's drug paraphanalia was found neatly put away in it's case in a cabinet. Cobain's sleeves were rolled down and buttoned.

 

Junkie 1 I talked to having done heroin for 10 years: "There's no way he could have done all that after shooting up all that H. You do that much and your lucky to remember to breathe, much less do that then aim a shotgun at your head and pull the trigger"

 

Another fact. The Seattle PD found NO prints on the shotgun. How the hell did cobain kill himself with that gun without leaving prints? he wasn't wearing gloves that's for sure.

 

Another thing. Kurt's friends and family all believed him to be happy and non-suicidal at the time of his death. That doesn't neccasarly mean anything but it adds to it.

 

Cobain's credit card was used after his death, the note was in two different hand writings, coourtney is a fucking psycho.

 

A man passed a lie ditector test saying that Courtney offered him money to kill Kurt. Then he was killed by a fucking train.

 

 

Does all this mean Kurt was killed? Maybe not. But it's sure as hell enough to warrant further investigation. As a Nirvana fan that's all I've ever asked.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

My GOD, read Charles Cross' "Heavier Than Heaven".  I didn't make anything up.  If you want me to make a citation from the actual book with a page number - then I will.  You fuckwads are honestly so concerned about fucking conspiracy theories that you don't even try to find the truth.  Don't go to some fucking geocities webpage - read a book with input from all of Cobain's family and friends.  Not some whipped together production for money.

 

I will give an answer to every fucking thing I've said if you want, just to shut up you 15 year old know-it-alls obsessed with controversy.  You all are just fanboys without an objective point of view.  Rememver that no one will take your opinions seriously if you don't have any proof.  

 

And remember this, and ALWAYS remember this:

 

There has never, or will ever, be an investigation into the possible murder of Kurt Cobain.  No one has mentioned it except this PI - and it was such bullshit no police agency will ever follow up on it.  Thats why myself and Lethargic are right, while the rest of you fanboys remain clueless fucks.

"Heavier Than Heaven" is a book. A book about Kurt Coabin. Written after he died. Written by Charles Cross. With help by COURTNEY LOVE.

 

DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM WITH COURTNEY LOVE HELPING WITH THIS BOOK?

 

In the book, it talks about Kurt's diaries. Diaries that Kurt said NEVER EXISTED! HELLO?

 

And no, that book did not get support from Dave and Chris. As Dave and Chris, WHO ARE MEMBERS OF NIRVANA SEE THAT COURTNEY HAD THE STORY CHANGED SO IT MAKES HER LOOK GOOD.

 

 

 

If you ever want to read a book about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana, just make sure it is NOT "Heavier Then Heaven" as it is full of lies and made up fairy tales.

[Guest Flyboy]

I just think the big Cobain fans can't take the truth and there has to be an OMG~!11 conspriacy about his death.

[Guest Banky]

If you ever want to read a book about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana, just make sure it is NOT "Heavier Then Heaven" as it is full of lies and made up fairy tales.

 

In the book, it talks about Kurt's diaries. Diaries that Kurt said NEVER EXISTED! HELLO?

Hah! That sums up your lameness.

 

I think everyone knows that book has had the most well thought out, planned, and researched material in regards to Cobain. If you won't do research by reading that book, atleast look up and see that is the most credible Cobain book around.

 

And what in the hell are you talking about in regards to the diaries? Cross had access to the now released diaries while writing the book. He took the information from the diaries, along with interviews from friends and colleagues, then put together the book.

 

Your ignorance is unreal.

 

CWM, the only piece of that evidence that holds on water is the fact the gun had no fingerprints. That, I can't explain. And for all we know, that could be just a myth.

 

And Cobain was suicidal and knee deep into drugs at the time. He went to rehab that was forced on him by friends and family then escaped. Would a happy man disappear from friends and family then cove himself out in a drug house? The PI was hired to find Cobain because he disappeared. He didn't get kidnapped - he ran away. Not exactly signs of a happy man.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

It's no myth. It's right there in the police report.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

If you ever want to read a book about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana, just make sure it is NOT "Heavier Then Heaven" as it is full of lies and made up fairy tales.

 

In the book, it talks about Kurt's diaries. Diaries that Kurt said NEVER EXISTED! HELLO?

Hah! That sums up your lameness.

 

I think everyone knows that book has had the most well thought out, planned, and researched material in regards to Cobain. If you won't do research by reading that book, atleast look up and see that is the most credible Cobain book around.

 

And what in the hell are you talking about in regards to the diaries? Cross had access to the now released diaries while writing the book. He took the information from the diaries, along with interviews from friends and colleagues, then put together the book.

 

Your ignorance is unreal.

 

CWM, the only piece of that evidence that holds on water is the fact the gun had no fingerprints. That, I can't explain. And for all we know, that could be just a myth.

 

And Cobain was suicidal and knee deep into drugs at the time. He went to rehab that was forced on him by friends and family then escaped. Would a happy man disappear from friends and family then cove himself out in a drug house? The PI was hired to find Cobain because he disappeared. He didn't get kidnapped - he ran away. Not exactly signs of a happy man.

Lameness? Are we like, 4th graders here?

 

EVERYONE knows the book hs the most well thought out, planned, and researched material in regards to Cobain that money can buy and that Courtney can make up.

 

It is not the most credible Cobain book.

 

Cross has access to the now released diaries? THERE ARE NO DIARES! KURT SAID IN A INTERVIEW THAT HE NEVER KEPT DIARES.

 

But MY ignorance is unreal. Yeah, sure...

 

Police evidence is just a MYTH? Wow, I'm glad you're not a cop.

 

He came out of rehab looking better then ever and happy. But that is suicidal? Drug house? What are you talking about? He disappeared for a few hours, most likely in the house with the Nanny guy.

[Guest bravesfan]

Well, the owner of that site just tears apart "Heavier Than Heaven"...

 

Read

 

and similar reviews by fellow readers...

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Wow, that first review sounds just like me, lol.

[Guest Lethargic]

"The Seattle PD found NO prints on the shotgun. How the hell did cobain kill himself with that gun without leaving prints? he wasn't wearing gloves that's for sure."

 

Wrong. 4 fingerprints WERE found. They were just unusable. Fingerprints are NOT what you see on CSI, people. This isn't a movie. Fingerprints aren't the be all end all of an investigation and they don't last forever. They deterioate, in something like a green room where the temperature is higher than a normal room, they detriorate faster. It's also very hard to get fingerprints off something like a shotgun stock because the wood is finished. If it was unfinished wood, no problem, but it's very difficult to get fingerprints from something like that. I have the real FBI Forensic Manual ten feet from me right now for some research I did on a screenplay I wrote.

 

"Cobain's credit card was used after his death, the note was in two different hand writings, coourtney is a fucking psycho. "

 

It couldn't have been lost or stolen BEFORE his death? If somebody killed him and stole his credit card, why did they leave a wallet with 120 dollars CASH in it. You murder somebody and you don't take untrackable cash money? You take a VERY trackable credit card? Isn't it entirely possible that Kurt lost his own card while on one of his heroin binges, some moron picked it up and used it, then turned on MTV to see Kurt Loder reporting the news, completely freaked out and flushed the thing?

 

I just read the note. I didn't see ANYTHING in it that looked like two different hand writings.

 

This reminds me of the backwards voice recordings thing. There's this guy that records audio of presidents and people like that. Then he plays it backwards to see what they're "really" saying. Usually it sounds like nothing but a bunch of jumbled backwards noise. But this guy will find some sounds that sounds vaguely like "I am the anti-christ" or something. So then he lets other people hear it, but nobody can hear anything in it. It's just jarbled noises. Then he says listen closely to this part, he says he's the anti-christ. Gullible people will then go HEY! HE DID SAY THAT!! While 99% of the normal people hear it and say, yeah, that's friggin noise moron. Now, somebody decided that a couple of lines looked a little different on this note so he tells everybody that. People that want to believe in this nonsense will see it because that's what they want to see. People without agendas look at it and see nothing.

 

Courtney a psycho? Maybe. But how come when anybody gives a reason for Courtney doing this it's...because she was a psycho. No legitimate reasons at all.

 

"A man passed a lie ditector test saying that Courtney offered him money to kill Kurt. Then he was killed by a fucking train."

 

That man was also insane. There is also a reason why lie detectors are not allowed in a court room, they can be beaten easily if somebody wants to.

 

"Does all this mean Kurt was killed? Maybe not. But it's sure as hell enough to warrant further investigation. As a Nirvana fan that's all I've ever asked. "

 

I still don't understand why anybody would think that the police DIDN'T look into this stuff. Courtney Love did not pay off the entire police department. They have the same info as everybody, if they thought for a second that this stuff meant anything, they would do something. The coroner says that he has no doubt at all that it was a suicide, he's a professional, people that make all these websites are NOT.

 

"DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM WITH COURTNEY LOVE HELPING WITH THIS BOOK? "

 

See. THIS is what is so funny. You don't believe the book because Courtney approved of it. But you DO believe the PI that Courtney hired. I mean, heeelllooo? Those two Courtney's are the same person.

 

"Cross has access to the now released diaries? THERE ARE NO DIARES! KURT SAID IN A INTERVIEW THAT HE NEVER KEPT DIARES."

 

So now we're to believe that Courtney took a couple hundred notebooks and just made up a bunch of crap to call it Kurt's journals? You are unbelievable.

 

"Well, the owner of that site just tears apart "Heavier Than Heaven"..."

 

Of course he does. Why would he agree with something that tears apart his idiotic delusions?

 

You know, personally, I had a lot of respect for the guy. If somebody killed him I'd want it known. I'd want the truth. If it was announced tomorrow that the police were charging Courtney I'd be like yeah, fry the bitch. But it ain't gonna happen.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

"The Seattle PD found NO prints on the shotgun. How the hell did cobain kill himself with that gun without leaving prints? he wasn't wearing gloves that's for sure."

 

Wrong. 4 fingerprints WERE found. They were just unusable. Fingerprints are NOT what you see on CSI, people. This isn't a movie. Fingerprints aren't the be all end all of an investigation and they don't last forever. They deterioate, in something like a green room where the temperature is higher than a normal room, they detriorate faster. It's also very hard to get fingerprints off something like a shotgun stock because the wood is finished. If it was unfinished wood, no problem, but it's very difficult to get fingerprints from something like that. I have the real FBI Forensic Manual ten feet from me right now for some research I did on a screenplay I wrote.

 

"Cobain's credit card was used after his death, the note was in two different hand writings, coourtney is a fucking psycho. "

 

It couldn't have been lost or stolen BEFORE his death? If somebody killed him and stole his credit card, why did they leave a wallet with 120 dollars CASH in it. You murder somebody and you don't take untrackable cash money? You take a VERY trackable credit card? Isn't it entirely possible that Kurt lost his own card while on one of his heroin binges, some moron picked it up and used it, then turned on MTV to see Kurt Loder reporting the news, completely freaked out and flushed the thing?

 

I just read the note. I didn't see ANYTHING in it that looked like two different hand writings.

 

This reminds me of the backwards voice recordings thing. There's this guy that records audio of presidents and people like that. Then he plays it backwards to see what they're "really" saying. Usually it sounds like nothing but a bunch of jumbled backwards noise. But this guy will find some sounds that sounds vaguely like "I am the anti-christ" or something. So then he lets other people hear it, but nobody can hear anything in it. It's just jarbled noises. Then he says listen closely to this part, he says he's the anti-christ. Gullible people will then go HEY! HE DID SAY THAT!! While 99% of the normal people hear it and say, yeah, that's friggin noise moron. Now, somebody decided that a couple of lines looked a little different on this note so he tells everybody that. People that want to believe in this nonsense will see it because that's what they want to see. People without agendas look at it and see nothing.

 

Courtney a psycho? Maybe. But how come when anybody gives a reason for Courtney doing this it's...because she was a psycho. No legitimate reasons at all.

 

"A man passed a lie ditector test saying that Courtney offered him money to kill Kurt. Then he was killed by a fucking train."

 

That man was also insane. There is also a reason why lie detectors are not allowed in a court room, they can be beaten easily if somebody wants to.

 

"Does all this mean Kurt was killed? Maybe not. But it's sure as hell enough to warrant further investigation. As a Nirvana fan that's all I've ever asked. "

 

I still don't understand why anybody would think that the police DIDN'T look into this stuff. Courtney Love did not pay off the entire police department. They have the same info as everybody, if they thought for a second that this stuff meant anything, they would do something. The coroner says that he has no doubt at all that it was a suicide, he's a professional, people that make all these websites are NOT.

 

"DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM WITH COURTNEY LOVE HELPING WITH THIS BOOK? "

 

See. THIS is what is so funny. You don't believe the book because Courtney approved of it. But you DO believe the PI that Courtney hired. I mean, heeelllooo? Those two Courtney's are the same person.

 

"Cross has access to the now released diaries? THERE ARE NO DIARES! KURT SAID IN A INTERVIEW THAT HE NEVER KEPT DIARES."

 

So now we're to believe that Courtney took a couple hundred notebooks and just made up a bunch of crap to call it Kurt's journals? You are unbelievable.

 

"Well, the owner of that site just tears apart "Heavier Than Heaven"..."

 

Of course he does. Why would he agree with something that tears apart his idiotic delusions?

 

You know, personally, I had a lot of respect for the guy. If somebody killed him I'd want it known. I'd want the truth. If it was announced tomorrow that the police were charging Courtney I'd be like yeah, fry the bitch. But it ain't gonna happen.

1) Everything in "Heavier Than Heaven" is bull. Bottom line, every line in that book is either about Kurt wanting to kill himself, or how great Courtney was.

 

2) I read that there were no fingerprints on the gun, so if there are fingerprints, but they aren't usable, then so be it.

 

3) He used the credit card to get a flight from LA to Seattle a few days before he died. Courtney then cancelled his credit cards, and the tires to his his, all 4 of them, "MAGICALLY" were slashed, leaving Kurt with no money whatsoever.

 

4) Are you looking at the same note I am currently looking at? The note has been inspected by handwriting experts. They compared most of the note to other writings of Kurt, and they match. Then Kurt signs his name, ending the letter. And more lines just "MAGICALLY" show up, saying he is going to kill himself, and that he wants Courtney to take care of Frances. These lines are much bigger then the lines Kurt already wrote, and experts compared those lines to some writing of Courtney, AND THEY MATCH.

 

5) You want more reasons to why Courtney could of done it? Kurt was going to divorce her, and take her out of her will, leaving her with NOTHING. Kurt also turned down Lollalpalooza (sp?) which would of been millions of dollars.

 

6) Is everybody that says Courtney plotted to kill Kurt INSANE? This guy passed a lie detector test, sane or not. And what about him GETTING HIT BY A TRAIN days after he took the test?

 

7) All I want is the police to reopen the case, and look through everything again. There is so much evidence, but everyone seems to ignore it.

 

8) The coroner was also a friend of Courtneys. And the person who made the website, has all the facts FROM THE PI COURTNEY HIRED.

 

9) Yes, I do not believe the book, because it's lies. It's basically saying Kurt was a piece of trailor trash that wanted to kill himself, and Courtney was the goddess of the world. And Yes, I do believe the PI, because HE IS A PI. He isn't getting paid by Courtney anymore, and is doing all this on his free time.

 

10) I said it before. KURT SAID HE NEVER KEPT DIARIES OR JOURNALS!

[Guest Lethargic]

I was gonna to respond to all of that but screw that, let me say this.

 

Courtney Love is a half-sane, junkie musician. She's not the Kingpin.

 

You HONESTLY believe that Courtney Love, of all people, not only had her husband murdered, but has the entire PD on the take, had her own personal coroner set up to do his autopsy to fake that, drove a train over the person she hired to kill him, faked out the publishing industry not once but twice by getting a completely fake biography published and then faking hundreds of hand written journals and of course tracked Kurt down and slashed his tires.

 

Did I forget anything?

 

That's a lot of stuff right there. She's not a super-villain, she's not even John Gotti, she's a druggie rock star. Like a very wise man once said: "I could make a list of things Courtney Love couldn't pull off: not showing her panties in public, hiding the tracks on her arm, etc. Pulling off a murder mystery is a bit past her skill level. "

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

She alone did not do all that, but thats what im saying.

 

She had her husband murdered.

 

I doubt she payed off the cops, but they did their own mistakes.

 

She knew the coroner, so yes, she bribed him to say that the gun shot wound killed him.

 

She hired somebody to throw the singer in front of the train, so he wouldn't tell anybody else.

 

Kurt never kept a journal, so someone must of came up with fake journals to publish.

 

And yes, she did get a completely fake biography published.

 

And I suspect the male nanny, who was most likely in on it, to slash Kurts tires.

 

No, Courtney Love is not a super-villan. She is just a bitter, insane, money hungry women who doesn't want to go to jail.

[Guest DrTom]

She had her husband murdered.

 

I doubt she payed off the cops, but they did their own mistakes.

 

She knew the coroner, so yes, she bribed him to say that the gun shot wound killed him.

 

She hired somebody to throw the singer in front of the train, so he wouldn't tell anybody else.

 

Kurt never kept a journal, so someone must of came up with fake journals to publish.

 

And yes, she did get a completely fake biography published.

 

And I suspect the male nanny, who was most likely in on it, to slash Kurts tires.

...

 

Jesus Christ. I'd hate to see what would have happened if some of you had been alive when Hendrix died.

 

Cobain killed himself. Not everything in this world requires a farcical conspiracy theory of cobbled-together half-truths, misrepresentations of fact, and dangerous assumptions. Kurt put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. I bought EVERYTHING I could following Kurt's death, and I've never had one iota of doubt that his was a death inflicted by his own hand.

[Guest ShooterJay]

There has never, or will ever, be an investigation into the possible murder of Kurt Cobain.

Why? I seriously don't understand this. From what you guys have all said, there's at least enough evidence to warrant an indictment (did I get those legal terms correct)?

 

It's different from JFK because there never has been an investigation, and all parties involved are still alive.

[Guest Banky]

Jesus Christ. I'd hate to see what would have happened if some of you had been alive when Hendrix died.

 

Cobain killed himself. Not everything in this world requires a farcical conspiracy theory of cobbled-together half-truths, misrepresentations of fact, and dangerous assumptions. Kurt put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. I bought EVERYTHING I could following Kurt's death, and I've never had one iota of doubt that his was a death inflicted by his own hand.

DrTom, as someone who's value I value, did you read the Heavier Than Heaven book? Was it complete bullshit as HSJ is stating? Also, please reinterate for me, are these conspiracy theorists out of their mind with their bumbbling nonsense? I'm at a lost how mislead these fanboys are. I've tried enlightening them, but please said the record straight. Their facts are complete rubbish - in every way, shape, and form.

[Guest Banky]

Jesus Christ. I'd hate to see what would have happened if some of you had been alive when Hendrix died.

 

Cobain killed himself. Not everything in this world requires a farcical conspiracy theory of cobbled-together half-truths, misrepresentations of fact, and dangerous assumptions. Kurt put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. I bought EVERYTHING I could following Kurt's death, and I've never had one iota of doubt that his was a death inflicted by his own hand.

DrTom, as someone who's value I value, did you read the Heavier Than Heaven book? Was it complete bullshit as HSJ is stating? Also, please reinterate for me, are these conspiracy theorists out of their mind with their bumbbling nonsense? I'm at a lost how mislead these fanboys are. I've tried enlightening them, but please said the record straight. Their facts are complete rubbish - in every way, shape, and form.

 

I can't belive how mislead you are HSJ, do YOU live in a fantasy land? You can't believe everything Cobain said in an interview. All in his life said he wrote in his journal, just because on MTV he disputed it, doesn't mean he never did. He had an image he wanted to with hold - nothing more. So Love, along with Cross, dupted EVERYBODY except you and the other 20 conspiracy theorists out there, that Cobain was a miserable soul. He never tried to commit suicide a few months previous? Courtney attempted to kill him. Thats right. Oh, and he never escaped from rehab. Yes, days before his death he was better than ever as he had just kicked heroin. Yet, that fateful April day, he decided to take a dip using 3 times the normal use? People must have strapped him to the ground and injected it into his veins - than safely put it back into its box where he kept it. All the while whiping their finger prints from everything they touched. After all of that, they stuck the gun in his mouth. Then, they wrote fake journals to make an extra million dollars. Courtney then paid off the news, police, and prospective authors to see the evidence as she wanted shared with the public.

 

Are you telling me that Courtney Love, in her state of mind, was able to dupe everyone except a 15 year old punk on a smarks wrestling website? No one questions whether Cobain commited suicide except one 15 year old fanboy and his ICQ buddies who followed the evidence of one lowly PI. An investigator who must have supremely valid evidence as no one takes it seriously accept a small minority of people.

 

I could go on, but I'll just second Lethargic's previous statements. He is right on the money.

[Guest Lethargic]

It's different from JFK because there never has been an investigation, and all parties involved are still alive.

It's different from JFK because there IS a very slight possiblity of a conspiracy led by very powerful people to kill a PRESIDENT. But to think that a drugged out rockstar could mastermind a plot this huge that Moriarty couldn't come up with and Sherlock Holmes couldn't unravel....is..dare I say it.....hogwash.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Jesus Christ.  I'd hate to see what would have happened if some of you had been alive when Hendrix died.

 

Cobain killed himself.  Not everything in this world requires a farcical conspiracy theory of cobbled-together half-truths, misrepresentations of fact, and dangerous assumptions.  Kurt put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.  I bought EVERYTHING I could following Kurt's death, and I've never had one iota of doubt that his was a death inflicted by his own hand.

DrTom, as someone who's value I value, did you read the Heavier Than Heaven book? Was it complete bullshit as HSJ is stating? Also, please reinterate for me, are these conspiracy theorists out of their mind with their bumbbling nonsense? I'm at a lost how mislead these fanboys are. I've tried enlightening them, but please said the record straight. Their facts are complete rubbish - in every way, shape, and form.

 

I can't belive how mislead you are HSJ, do YOU live in a fantasy land? You can't believe everything Cobain said in an interview. All in his life said he wrote in his journal, just because on MTV he disputed it, doesn't mean he never did. He had an image he wanted to with hold - nothing more. So Love, along with Cross, dupted EVERYBODY except you and the other 20 conspiracy theorists out there, that Cobain was a miserable soul. He never tried to commit suicide a few months previous? Courtney attempted to kill him. Thats right. Oh, and he never escaped from rehab. Yes, days before his death he was better than ever as he had just kicked heroin. Yet, that fateful April day, he decided to take a dip using 3 times the normal use? People must have strapped him to the ground and injected it into his veins - than safely put it back into its box where he kept it. All the while whiping their finger prints from everything they touched. After all of that, they stuck the gun in his mouth. Then, they wrote fake journals to make an extra million dollars. Courtney then paid off the news, police, and prospective authors to see the evidence as she wanted shared with the public.

 

Are you telling me that Courtney Love, in her state of mind, was able to dupe everyone except a 15 year old punk on a smarks wrestling website? No one questions whether Cobain commited suicide except one 15 year old fanboy and his ICQ buddies who followed the evidence of one lowly PI. An investigator who must have supremely valid evidence as no one takes it seriously accept a small minority of people.

 

I could go on, but I'll just second Lethargic's previous statements. He is right on the money.

I have told you, many and many times again, that "Heavier Than Heaven" is not a book full of facts, but a book of fairy tales. The writer writes it like it he is actually there with Kurt when Kurt shoots himself.

 

This is what happened with Kurt. He TOLD PEOPLE HE WAS NOT SUICIDAL. Since ROME, which was about a month before he died, that HE WAS NOT SUICIDAL. But yet, when he dies, everyone says SUICIDE without looking into it.

 

"So Love, along with Cross, dupted EVERYBODY except you and the other 20 conspiracy theorists out there, that Cobain was a miserable soul."

 

No. He was miserable, BECAUSE of Love. He wanted a divorce, and she didn't.

 

"He never tried to commit suicide a few months previous?"

 

No, he didn't.

 

"Courtney attempted to kill him. "

 

TWICE!

 

"he decided to take a dip using 3 times the normal use? People must have strapped him to the ground and injected it into his veins - than safely put it back into its box where he kept it. All the while whiping their finger prints from everything they touched. After all of that, they stuck the gun in his mouth."

 

That is a LOGICAL explanation.

 

And what does me being 15 have to do with anything?

 

 

I got my information from books, new reports, police reports, and pictures. You got your information from a book, that was helped written by the main suspect of the crime.

 

But you are right, and I am wrong, because I am 15. Yeah, right.

[Guest Lethargic]

And what does me being 15 have to do with anything?

 

But you are right, and I am wrong, because I am 15. Yeah, right.

Well, I had no idea your age and I thought you were an idiot. Now at least I have some explanation of why you'd believe in this. Hell, I probably would've fell for crap like this when I was 15 too. Did you write Santa a letter asking for the truth of Kurt Cobain's killing to come out?