Jeremy Shockey Or Clinton Portis

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

They seem to be the favorites.

[Guest the pinjockey]

Give me Portis

 

Led all RBs in YPC, 17 TDs to Shockey's 2, and didn't consistently makes an ass out of himself.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Shockey was more valuable, but Portis had the better numbers.

[Guest imajackoff?]

This is no contest. Portis' performance was far superior to Shockey's. Just goes to show that acting like an ass will in fact, get you more attention than you deserve.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

I would go w/ Shockey. The End...

[Guest Choken One]

Portis has the numbers but Shockey has the Media's factuation intact.

 

Does it matter? No. But remember this arguement...Shockey led his team to the playoffs...Portis didn't.

[Guest Flyboy]

SHOCKEY~!, baybee.

 

Shockey went to the Pro Bowl, Portis did not.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I like Shockey's intensity he shows on the field but he hasn't put up the numbers this season that would warrant the universal praise and verbal blow jobs he has received from the media. Not to mention Shockey can also make a giant ass out of himself with his on-field conduct and show boating.

 

But Choken One has a point: Shockey helped lead his team to the Playoffs while Portis' team did not.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

I agree that the media has fallen all over Shockey, but I can't help but wonder if he was black would the showboating be made a bigger issue. I'm normally one not to look at things in this kind of perspective, but in this case I couldn't help but do so...

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I really like both guys (I'm a U. of Miami fan), but I voted for Portis. I love watching Shockey play, but Portis put up better stats. Shockey was also hampered by the dreaded "turf toe" in the middle of the season, so that hurt him stats-wise.

[Guest Paranoid]

Shockey. No contest.

[Guest Flyboy]

Shockey was also hampered by the dreaded "turf toe" in the middle of the season

Sounds like someone I know.

 

*cough, cough*

[Guest Sassquatch]

Who, Eddie George?

 

[Guest Flyboy]

Ricky Williams in NO.

[Guest Sassquatch]

I know who you were talking about Adam.

 

Isn't it funny how things work out though?

 

Ricky got a change of scenary and he takes the 'Phins running game a whole new level compared to their last couple of seasons. But hey, NO didn't too bad this season but they did lose several games to some teams that they shouldn't have lost to.

 

I would love it if Turley was on the Raiders or Green Bay. That guy is a monster and it is a travesty that he didn't go to the Pro Bowl this year (again).

 

That's the only nice things I can say about the Aint's who just keep on falling farther and farther away from ever being considered a real Super Bowl threat/possibility.

[Guest YouDaFoo]

Both should get it!

[Guest phoenixrising]

If you think about it the trade was pretty even. Williams did what he was supposed to do for Miami, and McAllister showed he was the man in NO. And they both finished 9-7 and out of the playoffs.

 

As for Rookie of the Year - Portis. I think Shockey is good, but playing in New York elevates him to immediate superstar and greatest tight end of all time. Stat-wise, Portis had the better season. Shockey did make a big difference in the Giant offense though. For me, it's hard to argue with 1500+ yards and 17 touchdowns.

[Guest Flyboy]

If you stats are great, but they don't get you to the playoffs it shouldn't really matter.

[Guest the pinjockey]

But this award is for the Rookie of the Year not the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year.

[Guest DrTom]

Shockey went to the Pro Bowl, Portis did not.

How is that a valid criterion? Considering how many people make it to the Pro Bowl on reputation instead of merit (Orlando Pace, anyone? Mike Alstott?), getting the free trip to Hawaii doesn't really mean much. Also, look at the strength of the relative positions. There are a lot of good running backs in the AFC. How many top-shelf tight ends are there in the game, let alone just one conference?

 

Portis got my vote.

[Guest ant_7000]

Portis just because he was in a tougher divison and conference in the AFC.

[Guest El Satanico]

I like both and would agree with either getting it. However personally i'm slightly leaning towards Portis.

 

Shockey attitude has awaken his team and has made them play better then they should be. He has made a bigger impact on his team than Portis did. ROY shouldn't be based solely on stats.

 

I honestly don't even know why I'm leaning towards Portis, but if i had to pick it would be Portis.

[Guest converge241]

Shockey

 

not to take anything away from portis but he has a great line that consitently produces great rookie/from nowhere runners

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Portis all the way. The dude didn't even start the first few games and he still had those #s.

[Guest midnight_burn]

I'd go with Clinton Portis to be the Rookie of the Year, but i think Shockey will probably end up winning it.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I really like Shockey. I love how he plays the game and how much intensity he brings with him. I love that he doesn't smile and shake hands when his team blows a game against the Texans out of plain anger and dissapointment. Like pinjockey said...if the vote was for most valuable rookie he'd have my vote. But Portis was the better player this year.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Both should get it!

It wouldn't shock me if that happened.

 

Off topic, how awesome was Miami last season. Portis, Shockey, Dorsey, Johnson, McKinnie,Romberg, the Front 7 they have this season, and Secondary with Buchanon, Reed, and Rumph.

[Guest imajackoff?]

Also, look at the strength of the relative positions. There are a lot of good running backs in the AFC. How many top-shelf tight ends are there in the game, let alone just one conference?

 

Shockey may be the best TE in the NFC, but IMO he would be no better than 4th AFC.

 

Gonzalez

Heap

Sharpe

McMicheal from Miami was having a better year until he flamed out in the last few games of the season.

[Guest DrTom]

Shockey may be the best TE in the NFC, but IMO he would be no better than 4th AFC.

I don't know if Sharpe belongs on that list anymore (he had one huge game that really padded his stats), but your sentiment is right. There are always good running backs in both conferences, so a rookie has less chance to stand out. But tight ends are normally in demand, and there aren't that many really good ones in the game. Shockey might be higher on the list at his position, but I'd still take Portis for ROY.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Id say Roy Williams in Dallas deserves it, but A - he didn't even get defensive rookie of the year and B - he played for Dallas.