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From 411wrestling.com:

 

"Morgan Freeman will return in the upcoming sequel to Seven. Brad Pitt and Kevin Spacey, however, will not be part of the sequel.

 

New Line Cinema has been developing the sequel for awhile now, and Seven director David Fincher is expected to be involved with the project in some capacity, but it is not known whether he will return as director.

 

Credit: Cinecon"

 

Well, take it for what it is worth. I wish Brad Pitt was in it, but that's just me.

 

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I am sure you have all seen Se7en, but I didn't wanna get flamed for those who didn't see it. Brad's character can come back, he could totally get away with temporary insanity with what happened.

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Guest Lethargic

That story came out about 6 months ago. Don't know why 411 just found out about it. I figured that since it's been so long that it was probably either a) total BS or b) canned.

 

It's not even a real sequel. Have you ever seen American Psycho 2? It's where they took a completely unrelated script called All American Girl and threw in a few references to the first movie and clumsily turned it into a sequel.

 

That's what New Line was doing with this. They bought a serial killer script and what they were gonna do was just change the main character to Freeman's character from Seven. It has nothing to do with the first movie at all. They just changed a character's name.

 

Edit...here, found the original story from April 23rd...

 

"According to Variety, New Line Cinema is exploring another installment of "Seven". The sequel the studio is contemplating would make Morgan Freeman's cop character the centerpiece in a restructuring of "Solace," a spec script by "Ocean's Eleven" scribe Ted Griffin and Sean Bailey that New Line bought last year for seven figures. The drama revolves around a psychic cop tracking a serial killer who has psychic capabilities himself."

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Guest IDrinkRatsMilk

Se7en spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

I'd just like to say no jury in the world would have conficted Brad Pitt after the end of the first movie. It was quitte unrealistic.

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Guest Lethargic

Just saw it on AICN too. Looks like Freeman must've just now signed for it so it's back again. He's also saying that it's a psychic thing so it looks like it's the same script.

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Guest NoCalMike

Problem here is that "Seven" sequel is probobaly gonna end up a more like, Along came a Spider 2, than "Seven" 2.......Probobaly a whole different crew involved in making it.....NO NEED for a sequel...

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Guest Mole

So it is just Morgan's character from Se7en in a different movie? Well, his character was cool, so that would work.

 

And when I saw American Pshyco, I was young, and I didn't understand it at all. I didn't even know it was a satire.

 

However, the chick from That 70's Show is in American Pshyco 2, so I might pick that one up.

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But....Morgan wasn't psychic...

 

Fuckin' New Line.

You expect otherwise from a company whose big release next year is Dumb and Dumberererererererererererer?

 

God, New Line's just getting lazy. Why not just pick up some indie flicks or something instead of stupid sequels?

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Guest IDrinkRatsMilk

The movie could be ok if they just use Morgan Freeman's character and don't market it as Se7en II. But they won't do that. They never make the right decision.

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I am sure they will do the same thing they did with Along Came the Spider and Kiss the Girls.

 

They will just say it is a pre-quel. That would be cool, Morgan's character in a pre-quel to Se7en. At one point in the movie, Morgan's character can bump into Kevin's character, just as a little cameo type of deal.

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Yeah, a prequel would be cool. Se7en could use a prequel actually, with lots of fucked up shit going down that made Morgan's character so jaded, even by cop standards (movie cop standards, anyway), in Se7en.

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It would seem silly for this to be called Seven 2. Unless there are seven main characters and seven other lots of things.

 

I am sure they will do the same thing they did with Along Came the Spider and Kiss the Girls.

I believe those two were based on books, and the books had the same main character. There wasn't any studio flippity-funk there. I think the author was James Patterson, because when one of his new books came out with the Alex Cross (?) character came out, he talked about how he was so good at writing. What a pompous chode.

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Guest converge241

oy vey

 

yes this is exactly like the "kiss the girls" sequel except se7en needs one so much less

 

an aside:

how boring is freeman's commentary on se7en DVD? he ruins that one and bonham carter ruins Fight Club

 

*wants to know whats in the fn box*

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It's nothing like the Kiss the Girls sequel. The sequels to that were real sequels. Like Subliminal said, they're based on a series of books. THIS is a hacked together script that has NOTHING to do with the previous movie and all they did was change one characters name and give it a new title.

 

Please don't mention that box dammit. I hated Seven for years because of that stupid ass box ending BS. I didn't like the movie at all until earlier this year when I rewatched it on the DVD. I guess it's OK but I don't see what the big deal was when it first came out. I hate Hollywood serial killer movies these days. They're all just so paint by number. Nothing is ever surprising. The end to Seven was so horribly predictable that you could see it coming a mile away. And since everybody went on and on before I saw it about how awesome the ending was, it just ruined it for me. When I re-watched it, at least I knew not to expect anything good from the end and it allowed me to enjoy the rest of the movie.

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There was a mystery as to what was in the box? He came out and said it was her head...

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There was a mystery as to what was in the box? He came out and said it was her head...

Apparently. Of course there was also a mystery in the Sixth Sense even though we see Bruce Willis die in the FIRST SCENE OF THE MOVIE. But that's a whole other rant I don't have time for. ha

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Guest kkktookmybabyaway

I heard about this sequel a few days ago. Gag.

 

Just leave Se7en alone -- I'm sure they can make Freeman a new detective character. BTW: With it being a sequel, are they going to call this move Eight?...

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There was a mystery as to what was in the box? He came out and said it was her head...

Apparently. Of course there was also a mystery in the Sixth Sense even though we see Bruce Willis die in the FIRST SCENE OF THE MOVIE. But that's a whole other rant I don't have time for. ha

They didn't show him die. No one said......"Oh my God he's dead" he just got shot.

 

And yes it was her head in the box.......I thought you could see her hair sticking out when he opened it.

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The Bruce Willis thing might have worked in the absence of previews. But you already knew the kid saw dead people. You knew what kind of things were happening in the movie. Couple that with the first scene of the movie and it's not hard to figure out.

 

And speaking of M. Night whatever his name is, I guessed the ending to Unbreakable literally two seconds in. As soon as they said that stuff about comic books. Once again, the previews were it's downfall.

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Guest Downhome

There is no fucking need to take a perfectly fine film, and lay a smear on it with a horrible sequel. It's been done many times before, and it pisses me off. By the way...

 

...if they DO go through with it, then they best do a good job, because if it ends up ANYTHING like the crap fest that was Along Came A Spider, just, UGH.

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If you couldn't tell that he was dead in the first scene, you SHOULD have been able to figure it out seeing as how nobody in the movie could ever see him or talk to him or hear him or on and on and on.... God I hate even knowing that movie exists. I'd love to burn the negatives.

 

Come on, Bruce Willis never thought it was strange that EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD stopped talking to him? He just kept on going to work, never getting a paycheck?

 

Seven wasn't as bad as that but it was pretty bad. Oh, it's a box, I wonder what's gonna be in there. It wouldn't have been bad at all if everybody didn't hype up the big surprise at the end. I don't see how anybody could've seen that and even thought it was supposed to be a surprise.

 

Unbreakable took me completely by surprise on the other hand. Completely. I mean, I was actually shocked that it got me that good. That damn M. Night Shabadoo got me on that one. I never once thought that ending was where it was headed. I guess cause after Sixth Sense sucked so much I didn't really pay much attention to it and didn't really read about it or anything. All I knew was that it was a real life superhero thing. That didn't really give me any kind of idea of what the plot was going to be.

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The whole idea is they don't know their dead. He appears in places.......like the boy's house because he would have never been let in. It wasn't as obvious as you say.

 

I get it.....you're good at figuring it out........not everyone is that's why the movies are made.

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Unbreakable took me completely by surprise on the other hand. Completely. I mean, I was actually shocked that it got me that good. That damn M. Night Shabadoo got me on that one. I never once thought that ending was where it was headed. I guess cause after Sixth Sense sucked so much I didn't really pay much attention to it and didn't really read about it or anything. All I knew was that it was a real life superhero thing. That didn't really give me any kind of idea of what the plot was going to be.

Did you sleep through the movie untill the very end? What were you POSSIBLY supprised about?

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The whole idea is they don't know their dead. He appears in places.......like the boy's house because he would have never been let in. It wasn't as obvious as you say.

 

I get it.....you're good at figuring it out........not everyone is that's why the movies are made.

Some people think too much about a movie as they watch it. Me, I like to "fall" into the film, become a part of it, and take it as it comes. If it's a great film, I am able to do that, and NOT think about what happens next. Some are so predictable though that you just can't care about anything.

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The whole idea is they don't know their dead. He appears in places.......like the boy's house because he would have never been let in. It wasn't as obvious as you say.

 

I get it.....you're good at figuring it out........not everyone is that's why the movies are made.

You don't get it. It's not that I'm good at figuring it out. It was impossible NOT to figure out. The worse part is that they could've very easily fixed that movie. Take out that first scene and show it later as a flashback instead of right at the beginning, cut out that dinner scene between Willis and his wife, or better yet...cut out the wife completely. That and a couple of other little things would've kept the story the same and had the ending be much more of a twist. Look at the Others. The exact same story but it was done right.

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The whole idea is they don't know their dead.  He appears in places.......like the boy's house because he would have never been let in.  It wasn't as obvious as you say.

 

I get it.....you're good at figuring it out........not everyone is that's why the movies are made.

You don't get it. It's not that I'm good at figuring it out. It was impossible NOT to figure out. The worse part is that they could've very easily fixed that movie. Take out that first scene and show it later as a flashback instead of right at the beginning, cut out that dinner scene between Willis and his wife, or better yet...cut out the wife completely. That and a couple of other little things would've kept the story the same and had the ending be much more of a twist. Look at the Others. The exact same story but it was done right.

But I think you're wrong.

 

His wife said, "Happy Aniversary" which was a tribute, but could be construed as her anger and why she didn't talk during the rest of that scene. There really wasn't any other big scenes of interraction between them and that was good that it was kept to a minimum.

 

Leaving the "how did he get in the kids house" thing open also left doubt in your mind as to him being dead.

 

Most of the other scenes didn't require him interracting with others which was also good.

 

I think you're reading too much into it after the fact.

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Unbreakable took me completely by surprise on the other hand.  Completely.  I mean, I was actually shocked that it got me that good.  That damn M. Night Shabadoo got me on that one.  I never once thought that ending was where it was headed.  I guess cause after Sixth Sense sucked so much I didn't really pay much attention to it and didn't really read about it or anything.  All I knew was that it was a real life superhero thing.  That didn't really give me any kind of idea of what the plot was going to be.

Did you sleep through the movie untill the very end? What were you POSSIBLY supprised about?

That Samuel L Jackson did all that stuff. I didn't see any evidence of that ever in that movie. I never even thought about it. I'm the say as you. I just like to take the ride, it's only when something obvious slaps me in the face that ruins it. With Unbreakable, I never tried to think about what was going to happen or anything cause I was too into the movie and what was going on at the time. I didn't care about what was coming later. I was assuming that it was going to end up that Jackson would be like his "Alfred" type guy or something. The Mr Glass name should've told me though, but I just didn't care to try to figure out it was going to end and let it take me where it wanted.

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I didn't figure it out, because I just watched it as it came, not thinking anything about what will happen next. So you are wrong, it wasn't impossible to figure out. Not only me mind you, but millions of others.

 

Drop this now, and get back on topic please.

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Unbreakable took me completely by surprise on the other hand.  Completely.  I mean, I was actually shocked that it got me that good.  That damn M. Night Shabadoo got me on that one.  I never once thought that ending was where it was headed.  I guess cause after Sixth Sense sucked so much I didn't really pay much attention to it and didn't really read about it or anything.  All I knew was that it was a real life superhero thing.  That didn't really give me any kind of idea of what the plot was going to be.

Did you sleep through the movie untill the very end? What were you POSSIBLY supprised about?

That Samuel L Jackson did all that stuff. I didn't see any evidence of that ever in that movie. I never even thought about it. I'm the say as you. I just like to take the ride, it's only when something obvious slaps me in the face that ruins it. With Unbreakable, I never tried to think about what was going to happen or anything cause I was too into the movie and what was going on at the time. I didn't care about what was coming later. I was assuming that it was going to end up that Jackson would be like his "Alfred" type guy or something. The Mr Glass name should've told me though, but I just didn't care to try to figure out it was going to end and let it take me where it wanted.

See, I thought Unbreakable was obvious as hell. I didn't think about it, I just "knew" the supprise at the end, almost as soon as Mr. Glass first contacted Bruce.

 

I thought that was one of the most obvious things ever, so there, heh.

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