Guest Haku Report post Posted February 9, 2002 I think the ppv will be good but WWA will fail without a TV deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 9, 2002 IMO, the WWA has a good business plan. They're going to tour a lot overseas where they hardly get WWF wrestling live. Most of the guys they have were well know in the WWF & WCW and are still young unlike the XWF guys. Their main place to make money is overseas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted February 10, 2002 I enjoyed the first WWA PPV although, the wrestling and Russo style left something to be desired. This one should be good though. Where'd you get the matches from though? I hadn't heard about any being announced yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 10, 2002 I saw the matches at some site who took them from either Dave Meltzer's or Wade Keller's newletters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted February 11, 2002 I love how someone is a "WWF mark" if they won't blindly praise any wrestling fed that comes along as a "great alternative to the WWF". The fact is, if WCW had run a PPV like the last WWA one, it would have been crucified, but instead everyone gave it warm touchy-feely reviews despite the fact that it's lineup was like a bad episode of Thunder. Lets look at what they are offering for the next PPV (assuming the WWF doesn't come in and sign a bunch of these guys at the last minute just to screw them over, which would be beautiful): Jeff Jarrett (World Champ) versus Macho Man Randy Savage When was the last time Savage was involved in a good match? When was the last time he had a match of any substance period? Jarrett is good, but the fact is he is a *** type guy, not a **** type guy like the WWF main eventers (other than the Undertaker). I suspect this match will be tres disappointing in terms of being a PPV main. Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Eddy Guerrero Now this could be really good, assuming it happens. Eddie is obviously the big question mark, but if he's on his game this could potentially hit **** or higher. Rey didn't impress me all that much in the end of WCW, I found guys like Chavo and Hurricane were putting on better matches. Of course, I'd rather see Eddie fight guys like Jushin and Tanaka in NJPW, and this match alone isn't worth the cost of a PPV. Sabu vs. Crowbar Oh great, the human spot blowing machine vs. an average garbage wrestler in a match that will probably have no wrestling (since Sabu can't actually wrestle anymore). I'll take a pass, thanks. KroniK vs. Lenni & Lodi Kronik sucks, and there is no way this could be anything close to good. Leni and Lodi are ok, but they arn't the midnight express. Cruiserweight elimination match involving Christopher Daniels This might be good, they have to expand on what this means though. Daniels is good, so this has some potential. If it's a battle royale it will blow though. So what else is going to flesh out the card for this PPV? Bagwell? Disco Inferno? The Vampire Warrior? If I want to spend 20$ on an "alternative" to the WWF, I'll get some Japanese tapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 HOGANMADEWRESTLING said it all. Awesome card for an indy but crappy for wwf marks. Misterio is a mini-roid freak and guerrero is scott hall'02 (except for the money). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted February 11, 2002 From 1wrestling: "Several matches have been announced for the upcoming World Wrestling All-Stars PPV that will be held in Las Vegas on February 24 at the Aladdin Hotel. The matches include a "Cruiserweight Survival Match" featuring AJ Styles, Tony Mamuluke, Shark Boy, Low Ki, Chris Daniels, and Nova. Other matches will include Crowbar vs Sabu; Eddy Guerrero vs Psychosis vs Juventud Guerrera; and Disco Inferno vs Brian Christopher. Also expected to appear on the PPV are Bret Hart, Scott Steiner, Randy Savage, and Jeff Jarrett. More matches will be announced in the next few days." If those matches are correct and do take place, that card has the potential to be a lot better then any recent WWF PPV. I'll definetely be getting that over No Way Out.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Masked Yodeler Report post Posted February 11, 2002 The Cruiserweight Survival match will be a clusterfuck, and and 3 way matches are inferior to normal , so Eddie v. Psicosis v. Juvie wouldn't be as good as any two of them facing each other. Bret Hart won't wrestle, Savage is WAAAAY past his prime, Jarrett is above average, but not great, and if Steiner can go, he'll be in the WWF, if he's still injured, he'll suck. No Way Out doesn't look too good, but I'd rather see Austin v. Jericho than Jarrett v. Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted February 11, 2002 The Cruiserweight Survival match will be a clusterfuck" How so? It could be, but then again with guys like Daniels, Styles, and Lo Ki, it could be awesome. "and and 3 way matches are inferior to normal , so Eddie v. Psicosis v. Juvie wouldn't be as good as any two of them facing each other." Agreed that 3 ways are terrible but Eddy is able to wrestle normal again after leaving the WWF and Psic is tearing up Mexico as Nicho....Juvi is the only question mark. Jarrett v Steiner could also be ***. Christ, they will probably have more wrestling than any WWF PPV if they do it right. Tim, thinking that the failure of the WWA PPV will depend on how they book the Cruisers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 If the "Crusierweight Survival Match" is like the match WCW used on Thunder in early 2001, then it might not be a clusterfuck, since the WCW was good. So those type of matches can be good if booked right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted February 11, 2002 The Survival Cruiswerweight Match should be booked like the gauntlet match, only given more time. It also needs more thought Psych wise since they don't have any TV to hype the current on goings and such. The Eddy v Juve v Nicho match needs to be booked well too but Eddy is the master of that so I am not too worried. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Im really excited about what I hear from what's been announced for the WWA PPV. The Crusierweight Clusterfuck Match should be an exciting spotfest (which is pretty much what I want), although what about all those other great former WCW cruisers out there? ELIX SKIPPER! Kid Romeo? Kaz Hayashi? ELIX SKIPPER! Jason Jett? PRIME TIME BAYBEE! Otherwise, Juvy vs. Eddy vs. Phycosis should be ok but indeed it is hard to book 3 ways, but atleast theyre giving us some WCW style of cruiser action which I miss A LOT. The WWF never gives us true crusier matches. Disco vs. Brian should be good for a laugh, Sabu vs. Storm should be exciting if it is hardcore rules and they don't blow many spots. I wouldn't really want to see Macho in a world title match though. It'd be cool to see him in some "Special Attraction" capacity against someone but I'd personally just book Jeff Jarret vs. Roaddogg in a rematch. They had the best match of the last PPV and they can have another good one. I'd buy Roadogg as a contender in a young federation more than Macho Man if that makes sense. Also my crazy idea since they need a color commentator: Mick Foley. They said they wanted to get Foley to do something, he'd be perfect for the role! Get Sting there under any circumstances, pull him out of his *cough* retirement, and stick him in a match with Steiner. (This is where having weekly TV would help, these 2 could build a feud.) Also they should see about getting Goldberg on a pay per deal. He's expressed his hate for the WWF, but still seems open to an offer. If they could get him to work the show, their chances of locking a TV deal would be much higher with the biggest non WWF star out there. Well, I'll stop rambling. Those are my thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Everyone except Bret Hart is using this PPV to get themselves a WWF contract Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Everyone except Bret Hart is using this PPV to get themselves a WWF contract Why must you crush our spirit? :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Not Jeff Jarrett. I don't think he is welcome back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Invader3k Report post Posted February 11, 2002 It does sound like a good line-up for a PPV...but I doubt it will do well buy-rate wise until the WWA can get some sort of TV coverage...which probably wouldn't be a good idea to begin with since they aren't touring regularly in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 I'm looking forward to it for sure. It is something different to watch and Jeff Jarrett rules too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 12, 2002 The buyrate probably will suck. I'm just going to watch because the "black-balled" wrestler Jeff Jarrett is wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted February 12, 2002 I will most likely get it. The card has some potentially good matches. And if we don't support this our biggest hope for an alternative will die quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted February 12, 2002 "It does sound like a good line-up for a PPV...but I doubt it will do well buy-rate wise until the WWA can get some sort of TV coverage...which probably wouldn't be a good idea to begin with since they aren't touring regularly in the US." True about the buy rates, but WCW had their 3 best PPV's in 2 years in Jan, Feb, and Marchg 2001 and they did shit buy rate wise. If you have quality and keep producing quality, people will come aboard, especially with the ignorant wrestling that the WWF puts out. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 12, 2002 I think the WWA is going to work. Jarrett is the champ. They have Disco Inferno and Jeremy Borash booking, which isn't a bad thing I don't think. They have an impressive cruiserweight roster, and they have the greatest of all time as their commish. Not a bad way to debut live on PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 12, 2002 I thought Macho Man was booking? I hear Nash is trying to get Disco a job in the WWF as a writer. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the WWF trys to sign some of the guys working the WWA PPV ie. Steiner, Disco, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted February 12, 2002 The problem is, they probably won't make enough money on the PPV to even cover production costs. Women Of Wrestling's PPV only drew a laughable 6,000 buys, and they had a weekly TV show, which WWA does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Mark Madden just confirmed that he will be doing commentary. Now I'm buying it for sure. Anyone know who'll be on play by play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Savage is booking? I thought the WWA was Borash's and Disco's baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Savage is booking? I thought the WWA was Borash's and Disco's baby. It is, but apparently Borash didn't have time for booking, while still running the business end of the show (ala Paul Heyman) so apparently Macho Man and Brian Adams of Kronik are booking now, according to Randy Savage. *this may very well be a rumor but was something I read in a few places... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted February 13, 2002 I forgot to mention in my previous post that I believe Jarrett is among the best wrestlers out there who is now currently in the WWF. I think having him as world champion is a major plus, but with Savage booking, we may see the title change. I have no problem with Savage, though, he is one of the few old guys who has remained in shape and has always given a good effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted February 13, 2002 I've read at 1wrestling that the WWA has enough sponsers to cover production costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest theWCWRaider Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Ok, I so badly can't wait for the WWA Pay Per View. Also, according to an interview on WrestlingObserver.com, Scott Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, and others are under 2 year contracts to the WWA. Straight from the promoter's mouth, Andrew McManus. I like the business strategy that the WWA has, they are using the overseas market to their advantage, and that will only help them. They have a TV deal lined up in England I do believe, which is another plus. They only plan to do 2 tours a year in the United States, and they plan to go to places that the WWF does not frequent. It all sounds good to me. Time will tell, but I hope something works b/c I want competition for the WWF. and maybe that competition will feature cruiserweights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest yoshihiromwt Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Freak 5000, Jason confirmed on the Wildside Message Board that he's not going to the WWA PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites