Goldberg And Vince Meet For The First Time

[Guest AndrewTS]

I think that his match with DDP proved that he has a lot more to offer than what most of you know of him.

That's because DDP carefully planned out that match with him, and they "rehearsed" it to get it right.

 

The same thing allowed Warrior and Hogan to put on a decent match. Should Vince sign Warrior again, too?

[TheFranchise 0]

Yeah, why not.

 

Then you can stick him with A Train, and punish the fans for being loyal.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Ugh, why Vince why? Old rating draws don't work. Hogan, NWO, Flair, Steiner, Micheals have all came in the last year. Why bring old guys when you can use teh great talent you have already? None of the above (granted Steiner has only been here about a month) have drawn any ratings. Why should Goldberg be any different?

[Guest Dangerous A]

If done right, Goldberg's first appearance and match in WWE can pop a buyrate or two.

 

Problem is WWE hasn't done anything right in regards to bringing in old faces since the monopoly began.(all of WCW and ECW during the invasion and the NWO are examples)

 

Here's to hoping they don't fuck up with Goldberg.

 

On second thought, fuck 'em. They brought all this on themselves. They deserve every bit of bad business with the decision making that has gone on the last 2 years.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Goldberg is ghey.

Bret Hart is ghey.

I am an Edge-head, yeeeeaaahhh.

Question is, is Goldberg circumcised? Affects the whole deal in my book, that does.

[Guest Anglesault]

On the Bret Hart thing. I heard it wasn't an accident, it was three. He kicked the fuck out of him, dropped an elbow on Bret's forehead, and refused to grab Bret's leg on the ringpost figure four, leading Bret smashing his head on the ground. Can someone confirm this?

[Guest The Hamburglar]

On the Bret Hart thing. I heard it wasn't an accident, it was three. He kicked the fuck out of him, dropped an elbow on Bret's forehead, and refused to grab Bret's leg on the ringpost figure four, leading Bret smashing his head on the ground. Can someone confirm this?

Sounds hilarious. I would have pointed at both of them and laughed, at Bret for being a whiner, and Goldberg for being shite and sloppy.

[Guest Anglesault]

It really is very funny in a sad way. (If this is true)

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Sad!? No, just really funny. I can imagine Bret screaming to the world that it was all Vince all along as Goldberg tried to avoid truning his head to mush. It would have been as funny as when Taker appeared in the ambulance with Austin and Triple H. Classic moment, that.

[Guest The Superstar]

Kind of like after Vince's scuffle with Bret in Montreal, breaking his ankle after tripping over one of the stooges. Or something.

[Guest bob_barron]

Downhome- Can you tell us why you would want Goldberg back?

 

Hamburglar- I think Bret has a right to bitch about what happened to him regarding Goldberg. Goldberg shouldn't be sloppy and stiff as hell

[Guest Anglesault]

Goldberg hurt Meng as well, didn't he?

[Guest The Superstar]

Not sure about that, but Meng did want Goldberg to die so that he may live.

[Guest HartFan86]

On the Bret Hart thing. I heard it wasn't an accident, it was three. He kicked the fuck out of him, dropped an elbow on Bret's forehead, and refused to grab Bret's leg on the ringpost figure four, leading Bret smashing his head on the ground. Can someone confirm this?

Yup. All 3 of them.

 

 

I'm sure he didn't mean it.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Downhome- Can you tell us why you would want Goldberg back?

 

Hamburglar- I think Bret has a right to bitch about what happened to him regarding Goldberg. Goldberg shouldn't be sloppy and stiff as hell

Possibly. But its so much fun to laugh at Bret. He's such a tosser, one can't help but point and laugh at his misfortunes. But yeah, Goldberg sucks.

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't like Bret as a person. But I don't think it's fair that that happened to him. (I hold him at least 50 % responsible for Montreal, so I don't feel sorry for him there)

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Oh, its not fair. Nothing's fair. But it is very funny to think of Goldberg's shiteness and Bret's gheyness colliding.

[Guest AfricanAmerican]

Goldberg never offically took responsibly for the incident.

 

He never said: I'm really sorry, I fucked up or whatever.

 

Goldberg has no respect for the business. Keep him at home

u mean he never said anything to anyone that could post it on the internet? or did you just happen to follow him everywhere with a mic to his mouth waiting for him to apologize?

 

what im getting at is, how do you really know what he did or didn't do?

[Guest Downhome]

Downhome- Can you tell us why you would want Goldberg back?

Sure, but all the will happen is one of you will post how wrong I am, and how I'm retarded. Anyhow...

 

1) I think, if booked correctly, he could be a huge asset to WWE. They f'd up on nWo, WCW, Hogan, HBK, Flair, and almost everything else the past two years, but I'm willing to give them time yet again.

 

2) To think he wouldn't be a draw his first few appearances is insane, and to think that he couldn't do so beyond those if booked correctly, is equally insane.

 

3) I still feel that Goldy has more to offer in his matches than we've all seen before. Even though his match with DDP was scripted, you can't fault him for it. It was still a solid bout, and it showed that he does have talent beyond that of simply squashing those he faces. He was BOOKED to squash almost everyone he ever faced, it's what the fans grew to want to see from him, so that is what they gave them over and over. Yes they over did it, and it ended up hurting the company, but it IS what the fans wanted to see over time, they got tired of it, and WCW didn't realize that. If WWE can learn from WCW's mistake with what they did to Goldy, and allow him to become more of a rounded out star, he will be able to produce a few quality matches, if put in with the right people.

 

4) I want to see Goldberg face those of the kind like HHH, Austin, Rocky, Taker, etc... I've wanted to since '98, and I still do. I see no reason for them not to cash in on Goldberg, while people still remember them.

 

5) He WILL be over insanely, I promise you that. I want a huge face to come onto the scene once again, to get the crowd pumped up. Something we have NOT seen in quite some time. I want to see a crowd get excited once more, just as they did in Atlanta, Ga.

 

...bash me now while you can, but I do have faith that IF he shows up, he WILL prove many of you wrong if they allow him to. If not, you can laugh at me, but if so, I told you so.

[Guest Anglesault]

Bret said he did not.

[Guest Anglesault]

1) I think, if booked correctly,

 

2) if booked correctly,

 

he WILL prove many of you wrong if they allow him to.

"If booked correctly" "If they allow him to" doesn't that mean 'Make him a monster and put him over everyone" with Bergy?

 

And Kane has had one good match. Test has had one good match. Look at them They suck. You can't say Goldy is good based on one match.

[Guest bob_barron]

What AS said- I've never heard Goldberg apologise for it or Bret say he apologised for it.

 

DH-

 

Don't you think locker room morale would hugely suffer if they brought in a guy who flat out said he would never work a house show, lays down for nobody and only cares about one person?

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

"If booked correctly" "If they allow him to" doesn't that mean 'Make him a monster and put him over everyone" with Bergy?

i.e. The Streak, which has a 0.0000000002% chance of happening.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Why do you think that it is unreasonable to believe that Goldberg wouldn't draw, DH? It has been two years, and Goldberg's drawing power died with WCW...

[Guest Downhome]

Here we go...

 

And Kane has had one good match. Test has had one good match. Look at them They suck. You can't say Goldy is good based on one match.

 

Yes, I understand they have had good matches. I mention the DDP match though, because it shows that he can do more than go in, Spear, Jackhammer, and that's it. He can pull very interesting combo's, submissions, and throws out there, it's very obvious. All he needs, is to be taken by WWE, so they can mold him into more than just "The Streak". He is more than that, I've seen glimpses of it in many of his matches, even his matches with Sting, etc... Not only that, but the fans get behind the guy. He brings something else to the table, that being emotion. If they can book him correctly, allow the fans to continue to get behind him, we will be instore for some very emotional bouts, just like his match with Hogan.

 

Don't you think locker room morale would hugely suffer if they brought in a guy who flat out said he would never work a house show, lays down for nobody and only cares about one person?

 

They will not sign him to a long term deal if he will not lay down for anyone. If he does appear, I promise that we will not see anything like the streak. I have faith, so sue me.

 

i.e. The Streak, which has a 0.0000000002% chance of happening.

 

That angle is over and dead, WCW tried it again and it failed. WWE needs to pull something else out of their ass to get Goldberg to work, and I feel they CAN if they actually get serious with things.

 

Why do you think that it is unreasonable to believe that Goldberg wouldn't draw, DH? It has been two years, and Goldberg's drawing power died with WCW...

 

Because the fans still remember him, it's rather obvious. I know plenty on the net, in real life, etc... that would cheer for him right now. Even in Brock's matches they chat for Goldy. The fans still remember him, and want him, and they would STILL be behind him if they allowed him to become more than what you know of him.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Eh, screw Goldturd. I was sick of him 5 years ago and I'm sick of him now.

 

Here's to Billy boy hopefully never coming in. And even if he does, I'll just watch something else.

[Guest Anglesault]

Because the fans still remember him, it's rather obvious. I know plenty on the net, in real life, etc... that would cheer for him right now. Even in Brock's matches they chat for Goldy. The fans still remember him, and want him, .

Yep, and that theory just worked SO damn well for Hogan and Michaels.

[Guest CanadianChick]

DH, pops/markouts don't nessesarly mean ratings.

[Guest Downhome]

DH, pops/markouts don't nessesarly mean ratings.

They do if you continue to build upon them, instead of slacking off LIKE they did with Hogan and HBK. They would need to add fuel to the fire to keep him over, just like they have to do with anyone, this isn't just about Goldberg.

 

They would have to put him into a thought out program with someone, with a goal for someone to reach for. Pops/markouts are simply the begining, and to allow the ratings to show a difference, they would have to build on the live reactions, and that will be done by angles and how they present him.

 

It can be done.

[Guest CanadianChick]

But if it happens, it will only be short term. What's the point on spending that much time and energy on someone who will be there for a month when you got people who are already over (ie RVD) on your roster who you can build off of?