Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 10, 2003 May the National Hockey League live in interesting times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 10, 2003 And, I'm sure some way, the Sens fans will try and blame this on the Leafs, Don Cherry, and the Hockey Night in Canada announcers. Seriously, though, I hope somehow they can figure out how to make it work in Ottawa, as I don't want to see another team leave Canada for some shitty American market where most people don't know the difference between a hockey puck and a soccer ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted January 10, 2003 So one of the top teams in the League can't pay their players. While New York can't even manage to buy a good team which they keep trying to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 What I think the Rangers should do is say they'll pay off all of Ottawa's debts if the Sens will trade teams with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Karnage Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Yashin still hasn't got 3 million from Ottawa yet also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Well, if he doesn't get it, it looks good on him. Stupid fucker deserves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted January 11, 2003 This sucks. I don't want to see another Canadian team (especially one as talented as the Senators) go to America. And I find it sort of weird that one of the top teams in the league is bankrupt. But I am glad it isn't the Canucks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Seriously, though, I hope somehow they can figure out how to make it work in Ottawa, as I don't want to see another team leave Canada for some shitty American market where most people don't know the difference between a hockey puck and a soccer ball. I agree. If the Sens (and Sabres) can't survive in their city, then I say get rid of the teams altogether. I don't want to see a great (Canadian) team like the Sens or an older team like the Sabres leave the leauge because they actually mean something unlike the Panthers, Lightning, Predators ect. However, for the good of the game, the leauge has to contract a la Major Leauge Baseball. Too many marginal players in the leauge and the superstar talent is spread too thin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 My question is why are they going bankrupt? Is it because of the Canadian fans not going and supporting them? Honest question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 It's partially that they're not getting enough fan support. They probably average around 16,000 fans or so a game (in a 18,500 seat arena). The exchange rate is probably their worst enemy, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 11, 2003 I was under the impression the Corel Centre was bringing in around 13,000-14,000 a night, which isn't too bad. But apparently, they're still in the red. Embezzlement, for all I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 How would the exchange rate affect them? Are there more people from the U.S coming to watch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 The exchange rate affects them, as they take in their money in Canadian funds, but most of the player contracts are paid in American dollars, so they're losing money right off the bat, right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Well a few days ago when ESPN reported that the players hadn't been getting paid. I heard something about the owner or GM telling players that they had problem with some bad investments or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Well, the owner had some weird re-financing plan in place that fell through on New Year's Eve, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 If the Senators move down to the US. (Personally I wouldn't mind a hockey team in Seattle). How many teams would that leave Canada? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 11, 2003 That'd be five, down from eight at the end of 1995. And there's a slim chance you'll get the Sabres in the Pacific Northwest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 5. Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal. This would be down from 8 as recently as 1995. Yeah, what Mr. Republic said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Well it could create a good rivalry between Seattle and Vancouver since its only about 3 hours time inbetween the cities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 11, 2003 And if Ottawa goes, Calgary is next. I'd be willing to bet that soon it'll end up at Habs and Leafs just like it was before 1970. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Ottawa already has 2 good geographical rivalries, with Toronto and Montreal (especially Toronto). And there's no way in hell anyone's going to tell me that Seattle is a better hockey market than Ottawa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 11, 2003 Gary Bettman would tell you that Portland is a hockey hotbed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 The Thunderbirds do okay here and I believe there is a new WHL team coming to Everett (45min from Seattle) as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted January 11, 2003 I'm not saying that Seattle couldn't support an NHL franchise. All I'm saying is that the NHL is better served having a team in Ottawa than it would in Seattle right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 I would agree. I'm just curious now since I now work for Comcast which owns the Flyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 The construction company Comcast owns is building the Arena for the Everett Silvertips (They actually took into consideration 13 states and 3 Canadian provinces for ideas for the name) Everett Silvertips Hmm... Season tix are only 357 bucks for 36 games. Might go to a few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted January 11, 2003 I always mix it up, Comcast owns the Flyers, but Comsat owns the Avs. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted January 11, 2003 I believe so yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted January 11, 2003 It pisses me off that so many people are saying how "bush league" the NHL is because they have two teams that are having financial issues, but don't say the same thing about baseball when the Expos are basically owned by MLB and there's like half a dozen teams that can't compete because they're small market teams. F-ing double standard in the US. And why the Sens had to file bankruptcy protection (as stolen from ESPN.com): Much of the Senators' financial problem is caused by the weakness of the Canadian dollar, worth about 65 cents in U.S. currency. Like other Canadian teams, the Senators take in revenue in Canadian dollars but pay salaries in U.S. dollars. The team also has struggled for years with heavy debt, and it doesn't have the advantage of being in a bigger market, like Toronto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites