Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Smackdown's overnight rating of a 5.6 bottomed out to a friggin' 3.4 when the final ratings were released for this past Thursday's TV shows. That is PATHETIC considering what the WWF has spent on "new" talent and the fact that this was a LIVE Smackdown. 3.4 is the second lowest Smackdown rating in history, as the only lower one I can find is a 3.2 this past June that was headlined with an Austin vs. Spike Dudley WWF title match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 yep, i didnt even bother watching the show, cos i saw what happened earlier in the day (we get SD on sat), it was total filler, with no good matches or meaningful promos. well, at least the wwf kept up their trend of having one good and one bad show each week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted March 10, 2002 yep, i didnt even bother watching the show, cos i saw what happened earlier in the day (we get SD on sat), it was total filler, with no good matches or meaningful promos. well, at least the wwf kept up their trend of having one good and one bad show each week. When was this "good show" you speak of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Monday: RVD vs. Storm, Cage Match... other stuff.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 i liked raw, rvd-storm and angle-trips were more than enough for me to enjoy the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 10, 2002 RAW was good. I didn't even watch Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Geez.... that was sarcasm, guys. Anyways, I liked RVD/Storm, but the cage match ate huge gobs of ass, especially after the predictably lame run-in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ])r. ])eath Report post Posted March 10, 2002 I thought that the cage match on RAW fucking sucked. Everyone knew that Steph was going to interfere. Not only that, but everything that Angle & Triple H do together is repetative. Belly to belly x2 then multi german suplexes. Triple does some knees.. run in. How was this a good match? They have had several good matches pre injury, but I just straight think that Triple H sucks right now. He is a slug. The match was also WAY overbooked. Steph takes out the ref. That isn't enough to win anymore? Steph takes out HHH.. ok.. so the match should be over.. Steph drags Kurt out of the ring.. OK.. so inclosing, Steph just won the main event by herself. Might as well just give the damn titles to Steph now, because I'm not seeing any green pastures in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Geez.... that was sarcasm, guys. Well sorry, but sarcasm is pretty hard to detect on a message board. I'm still not entirely convinced you were being sarcastic anyway, but whatever... I too thought the cage match was a bit boring and predictable, but for what we usually get on Raw and SD, it was refreshing to see a steel cage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ])r. ])eath Report post Posted March 10, 2002 This is what I think. Cage matches suck. You wanna know why? I can tell you. The cage match has been altered from what it was originally all about. A cage not only stops a competitor from running away (it also adds brutality, which is great to end feuds) but it is suppose to stop people from the outside interfering. Well, the theory is out the fucking door. Speaking of door, why the fuck does the cage have one? Cage matches were the best when both the competitors started in the ring, and the cage (with out a door) was lowered over them. Thus, you have to "escape" to win. Also, back then, the cage matches weren't fence matches. They were cages. They were easier to climb too, so anyone could have a cage. I wish it would go back to the old school days of the cage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 i didnt really detect the sarcasm, but then its fairly hard to show emotions like that on a message board unless you go all out with emphasis, etc. and while the cage match wasnt a MOTYC, it was watchable, had the predictably overbooked finish and all, but it was a singles matchup worthy of any pay per view. now i can remember last week how everybody was saying we needed more singles mains for raw on SD, and we got 2 this week. and while one was average and the other a clusterfuck, they were still singles matches, and the one on raw was entertaining for the most, even if it was a little too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Geez.... that was sarcasm, guys. Well sorry, but sarcasm is pretty hard to detect on a message board. I'm still not entirely convinced you were being sarcastic anyway, but whatever... Heh, my bad, I guess. I just meant the question as a joke, albeit a BAD joke, but a joke nonetheless. :::::: swears on Earl Hebner's kids to NEVER use sarcasm agane :::::: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted March 10, 2002 I am not surprised that the Smackdown rating fell again. The fact that it was live perplexed me when I watched Smackdown because not much of note happened on Smackdown. They could have just taped it and saved some money. I just wonder if the WWF writing team or Vince McMahon or whoever actually sits down watches a Raw or a Smackdown and actually thinks it is good. I just do not exactly see how anyone could watch Smackdown on Thursday and actually think it is fantastic writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted March 10, 2002 :::::: swears on Earl Hebner's kids to NEVER use sarcasm agane :::::: lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 10, 2002 AFAIK, the only reason for the live Smackdown was to give a chance for the wrestlers on the Asian tour to make it to the show. Nothing else was done to exploit the fact that it was live. Also, I think that the only highlight of the show was in a recap of the Shampoo Feud, as Tajiri referred to Booker's hairdo as "Buckwheat on crack." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 actually, i was just thinking and this rating sorta validates the internet. a lot is made how the wwf has blamed internet word of mouth for poor smackdown ratings, though this result could be interpreted to be the exact opposite. when there is a good show, positive word of mouth spreads through the net, causing more smarks and marks alike to watch the show. now if the show is bad, negative word of mouth will spread and less people will watch the show. now this shows how if the wwf put on some decent shows that their ratings would improve due to positive word of mouth spread by the 'net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 10, 2002 I'm sure Vince watches Raw & Smackdown on tape. A few months back, there was a Raw where pretty much everybody agreed sucked, but it was reported on the net that Vince was very happy with the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dutha Rose Report post Posted March 10, 2002 yep, i didnt even bother watching the show, cos i saw what happened earlier in the day (we get SD on sat), it was total filler, with no good matches or meaningful promos. well, at least the wwf kept up their trend of having one good and one bad show each week. Nah ha kin you thay dat you saw da Smayck-dowun when id wud a liiiiiiibe show? Dat...dat done make no thenth, boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 10, 2002 "Nah ha kin you thay dat you saw da Smayck-dowun when id wud a liiiiiiibe show? Dat...dat done make no thenth, boy. " Can someone translate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Mistha Dweem, sum aweas onwy see de show on tape deway. In doez aweas, you kin watch a wecap show befo da show is on TV. [/Dustyspeak] Translation: When the show is tape delayed in certain regions, you can get the highlights before the whole show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 you dont make too much "thenth" either my friend. but here in australia we get smackdown on saturday nights due to obvious time delays. thus i could see what was on the show and decide not to watch it. however if HBK had so much as showed up i would *definitely* have watched it, and i never said i watched it,i just read reports and the opinions of people on the board and made my decision from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dutha Rose Report post Posted March 10, 2002 you dont make too much "thenth" either my friend. but here in australia we get smackdown on saturday nights due to obvious time delays. thus i could see what was on the show and decide not to watch it. however if HBK had so much as showed up i would *definitely* have watched it, and i never said i watched it,i just read reports and the opinions of people on the board and made my decision from that. DOEN YOU DAH EENTHULT MEH EHGAYN YOU THON UFF A BEETCH!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Y'know, I live in San Antonio and I didn't even bother trying to get tickets for Smackdown. The storylines AND wrestling has been so below average as of late that it just didn't seem worth the time and money. And I was right. I saved money, caught up on some studying and was glad I didn't go. sooner or later, the WWF has to realize that they can't put out a shitty product and expect people to buy their tickets and PPVs at higher prices. It will only get worse before it gets better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shawn Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Damn... next thing you know they'll be cramming everyone on one side of the arenas so it looks full like WCW did... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 you dont make too much "thenth" either my friend. but here in australia we get smackdown on saturday nights due to obvious time delays. thus i could see what was on the show and decide not to watch it. however if HBK had so much as showed up i would *definitely* have watched it, and i never said i watched it,i just read reports and the opinions of people on the board and made my decision from that. DOEN YOU DAH EENTHULT MEH EHGAYN YOU THON UFF A BEETCH!! believe me, you post shit like that and i will only be one of many people giving you shit. how long does it actually take you to write out each post in that "language" of yours, and also, why bother? ps. its good to see that the caps filter thingy is working nicely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shawn Report post Posted March 10, 2002 I kinda find dutha Rose humorus in the sad/pitiful kind of way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted March 10, 2002 he kinda reminds me of Bradshawthehoss, in his irrelevance, exceptionally poor grammar/spelling and inability to use lower case characters. probably the same guy, the only thing missing is that picture of the fat kid... *sudders* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Vince's problem is that he is presently CLUELESS as to what his company's problem is (mediocre writing, his daughter overshadowing the World Champ, storylines being dropped very quickly). He is simply doing what Bischoff did in 1998---throwing crap on the wall and PRAYING something sticks. Vince's problem is that the crap he is throwing has FAILED before he touched them. People can mention that the nWo angle helped give WCW its brief run of dominance. However, even during that era, attendance wasn't THAT different and WCW's buyrates weren't THAT high. Add into that the fact that Hall, Hogan, and Nash haven't drawn a soul in several years now. Hogan and Nash were both major players after Russo left an Sullivan took over and the ratings still plummeted. They were majror players when Bisso came in in 2000 and ratings went up briefly---then plummeted again. Nash was around until February and ratings, during that time, well...let's just say that they weren't great. People always say "Nobody in WCW could draw at that point". And, they are right. But, this doesn't happen in a vacuum. No matter how bad the storylines are, if a guy who can draw is pushed, he will draw (can ANYBODY explain the Kane/UT saga from start to finish? No---but it did help put butts in the seats). Nash and Hogan WERE pushed big-time and didn't deliver. Hall was too much of a time bomb for WCW to consider pushing. That being said, the WWF hasn't expected anybody else BUT these three to help turn things around. Did the WWF expect DDP or Booker T to suddenly stop a downward slide in ratings? Nope (of course, the ratings slide wasn't nearly this pronounced). But, they EXPECTED the nWo---an angle that had LONG outlived its usefulness, to overcome the WWF's problems. Even if the WWF was clicking on all cylinders (i.e, WWF circa 2000 until about September), the nWo wouldn't have made ANYTHING better. With the WWF faltering, the nWo just reeks of "I'M DESPERATE! WATCH ME!" I said, the moment they were signed, that Vince would regret it. It's been about a month since they were announced in the WWF. This is the point where the numbers should be slightly higher (at the very least) if for no other reason than curiosity. Numbers AREN'T higher. The nWo is failing to draw a soul to the show, making the absurdly generous deals they were given seem even MORE absurd. Until Vince sits down, tells Steph to both get off TV and stop writing (and I'm not saying make Heyman the top booker---God knows ECW didn't have much in terms of good storylines after 1997), things will only deteriorate.. Put her somewhere else where her talents MIGHT help make things better -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 10, 2002 Vince need to send Steph to OVW so that she can learn under Jim Cornette. While Cornette's ideas may be outdated in some respects <COUGHcrybabymatchCOUGH>, he has a great knowledge of how to run feuds and get heat. That combined with the Russo-esque booking style that Steph currently uses could actually make her a versatile booker. Then again, that would require that Steph keep herself off of TV, and that is about as likely to happen as Linda McMahon winning the WWF title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted March 10, 2002 I'm GLAD the wwf got that rating. Now MAYBE they will stop doing the stupid stunts like the NWO trying to kill Rock in an ambulance. I still say the wwf killed the promotion of the match with that crap. Broken cinder blocks. Toy net guns. Steph overshadowing the CHAMPION of the promotion. Changing ppv match stipulations(tag title match). Making guys look Booker T and Edge look like buffoons in a shampoo angle. THE WWF DESERVES THIS RATING!!! Now maybe they will now LISTEN to the falling sounds of the ratings. The wwf brought this upon themselves. I still think the wwf has kind of messed up Hogan's return. He just looks like another wrestler. That's just me though. I'm glad the wwf got that rating because now they will actually put more effort into not making WM be a flop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
