Guest RickyB Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 I know that these two had many matches between each other, and that a lot of people don't like the matches that much. But i'm looking for some matches between the two but can't find many of them. I've seen the match from Hostile City Showdown 96 and from Guilty As Charged 2000. But i'm trying to find more. In fact the main one i'm looking for is from ECW TV 96/97 and was around the time of November 2 Remember of that year, I seen the match once (it went to a time limit draw, I think). If anyone knows where I can find that match it would help. But if you can point me to any other matches between the two as well i'd be greatful.
Guest benoitrulz4life Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 The easiest two to find are on ECW DVD's: Their stretcher match from "The Doctor is In" is on ECW Hardcore History, while their match from Wrestlepalooza '97 is on the DVD of the same name. For the record, the stretcher match is better, and if you like this sort of stuff, Sabu breaks his ankle in that match I believe. Hope that helps.
Guest benoitrulz4life Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Ah, what the hell. Here's some more if you feel like tracking them down on VHS. Matter of Respect - 5/11/96 Hardcore Heaven '96 - 6/22/96 Oh, and the Wrestlepalooza match is from '98 not '97. My bad.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Hostile City Showdown 96 has far and away their best match. It's just great. Check here if you want to dig up some info yourself http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/wiamain.htm
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 A Matter of Respect 1996 is notable for RVD's first win, but I personally like Hardcore Heaven 1996 better, the top rope broke about 5 minutes into the match and they both said "fuck it" and went out there and worked their usual style match anyways. IMO RVD vs. Sabu feud was the end of Sabu's greatness as a wrestler.
JustJoe2k5 Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Rob Van Dam-Sabu Stretcher match is on the ECW Hardcore History DVD. I've seen their match from Wrestlepalooza '98 on KaZaA.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 I have the two DVD ones plus A Matter or Respect, and I think one they wrestled before teaming for the first time too, I have a 6 hr block of ECW TV from late 96
Guest RickyB Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Thanks a lot. I'll look up some of those DVD's since my local HMV has a shitload of ECW stuff. BTW - Is Hardcore History worth buying? I want to see the Stretcher Match because i've heard it's good, but do you think I should get "The Doctor Is In" from somewhere on the net, or should I buy Hardcore History?
Guest Dmann2000 Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Buy Hardcore History cause it also has Pitbulls vs Raven & Richards Dog collar match, absolute great stuff there
Guest Youth N Asia Posted January 19, 2003 Report Posted January 19, 2003 Rob Van Dam-Sabu Stretcher match is on the ECW Hardcore History DVD. I've seen their match from Wrestlepalooza '98 on KaZaA. Match is nothing special...I mean it's alright, but the crowd is so dead durring that
cawthon777 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Posted January 20, 2003 I've come across their stretcher match in August 96, Guilty as Charged 2000, as well as their bout from March 01 in All Japan on Kazaa.
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 23, 2003 Report Posted January 23, 2003 Hardcore History is good, to a point. Sabu vs. RVD is good, the 2/3 falls tag is good, not great, not unbelievable, sure as hell not *****, but GOOD. Cactus vs. Sandman is a pass, Douglas vs. PB2 is a pass. Dreamer vs. Lee is in the okay range. Benoit/Malenko vs. Taz/Sabu is pretty good. I don't remember anything else on the DVD.
Guest Fubar420 Posted January 24, 2003 Report Posted January 24, 2003 I have Sabu vs RVD in NEWF 1991 . I'm sure there are some other great old school RVD vs Sabu bouts out there somewhere .
Guest cabbageboy Posted January 24, 2003 Report Posted January 24, 2003 I have quite a few of the 1996 matches (Hardcore Heaven where the ring broke, Matter of Respect, and the Stretcher Match). I haven't really seen the WP 98 match and don't want to since I heard it was a misfire. GAC 2000 was ok but Sabu was on his last legs at that point. A match I desperately want to see is the time limit draw for the TV title that was on ECW TV in late 1999. It took up the whole hour and I remember it getting about ****1/2.
Guest geniusMoment Posted January 25, 2003 Report Posted January 25, 2003 I just watched that match from ECW tv and it was the worst match of their entire feud. It didn't take the whole hour they showed highlights of candido and rhino vs. Dreamer and Raven in one of the breaks. Tons of missed spots. Where did you hear that match was good. This is coming from someone who loved the spot wrestling style of ECW and some of the earlier RVD and Sabu stuff, so trust me when I tell you don't bother getting the match.
Guest snuffbox Posted January 25, 2003 Report Posted January 25, 2003 Im a big fan of the Wrestlepalooza 98 match....very underrated imo. I can explain, but ill need to watch it again.
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 I've found that, Sabu stuff post 1997 tends to age horrible (not that it was great to begin with) I loved the hell out of the House Party '98 match vs. Sandman, but when I popped in the Path of Destruction DVD, I was bored out of my skull watching it.
Guest Jimmy Saint Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 The Stretcher Match is probably their best. The Matter of Respect ’96 match is worth getting as well. Mostly because that show had such a great card.
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 I don't remember too much about A Matter of Respect 1996, but I remember that Sabu's match with RVD was really good, and Jericho and Mikey tore down the house.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted January 29, 2003 Report Posted January 29, 2003 I don't remember too much about A Matter of Respect 1996, but I remember that Sabu's match with RVD was really good, and Jericho and Mikey tore down the house. Yeah they did, last match of tape one...and tape 2 starts with Shane/Scorpion in a 30+ minute match. The Sabu/RVD Matter of Respect match is good...but Hostile City Showdown 96 is their best, trust me
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