Guest EternallyLazy Posted January 26, 2003 Report Posted January 26, 2003 4- Jericho 5- Chavo 6- Mysterio 7- Booker T 8- Tajiri 9- Golddust 10- Funaki Edge and RVD are nowhere near the workers listed above
Guest art_vandelay Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 4) Rey Jr. 5) Jamie Noble 6) Chris Jericho 7) Chavo Guerrero Honourable mention: Spanky, Nunzio
Guest wolverine Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 It's Steve Austin the second he steps back in that ring.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 1. Guerrero 2. Benoit 3. Angle 4. Jericho 5. Chavo 6. Mysterio 7. Noble 8. Tajiri 9. Goldust 10. Cena (bias) Honerable mention: Charlie Haas, Edge (when carried), Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Sheldon Benjamin, Spanky (haven't seen enough from him), and Matt Hardy PS. When Austin comes back, he'll be number 3. Everyone else will move down. Banky, just a couple quick questions. When you are doing this, are you doing total package? Because that's how I'd place Eddy over Benoit. Of course it's very close, so really no big deal. If Jricho hadn't sunken down a little, would he be above Angle? Is Goldust in there for lack of anyone better or for the improvement he's made? because while he certainly has gotten much better, I'd say booker and Edge outrank him. Goldy is still like top 15 right now though. CENA?
Guest TheyCallMeMark Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 1. Benoit 2. Eddy 3. Chavo 4. Rey 5. Jericho 6. Booker 7. Tajiri/Edge/Angle/Knoble So, I guess Rey gets the nod for number four. I hope I didn't forget someone important.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 I agree totally with Wolverine. Hell I'd put Austin up ahead of Kurt Angle even. The guy is damn good there's no denying it. I can't wait till the top guy in the company is a good wrestler again as opposed to the steroid freak we have now.
Guest Banky Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Banky, just a couple quick questions. When you are doing this, are you doing total package? Because that's how I'd place Eddy over Benoit. Of course it's very close, so really no big deal. If Jricho hadn't sunken down a little, would he be above Angle? Is Goldust in there for lack of anyone better or for the improvement he's made? because while he certainly has gotten much better, I'd say booker and Edge outrank him. Goldy is still like top 15 right now though. CENA? 1. Again, bias comes into place when putting Guerrero on top. I simply enjoy him in the ring more than anyone else. Benoit is probably the altogether best, but I just can't bring myself to see it that way. Maybe I unconsciously enjoy Guerrero more than Benoit because of his charisma. 2. Nope, Jericho isn't on Angle's level. Jericho can be really good, but Angle can be better than that. 3. Edge is terribly boring and menotonous in all his matches. There has been exceptions when Angle and Guerrero has fought him. Edge is just going through the motions now, and has wrestled the same match since he fought Angle at Unforgiven. Booker T hasn't done much in a long while. His act has also gotten stale as his matches all climax with a spinerooni. I like Goldust's more technical, less flasy style. His gimmick is one the greatest ever, so again, that bias carries over in my decision. 4. Cena is flat-out the best part of the WWE programming right now. As a hip hop fan, his rhymes are hilarious. Its funny that a wrestler is a better MC then most top 40 rappers. Plus, his wrestling skills aren't bad. I think with proper mentoring and tutoring from Guerrero, Benoit, and Angle - this guy could be a MAJOR star. He has the charisma, looks, and passable wrestling ability. This time next year he'll be a major player in the company.
Guest saturnmark4life Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Austin is god, and he's off the booze and working out, so I'll probably rank him 4th the minute he gets back, yeah. I think he's above the top three in terms of charisma, but they're all streets ahead physically, of course. Considering his injuries he's great. and AS, whilst booker and edge have certainly had more 'success' than goldust, I'm certain he's a superior worker than both. I agree with Banky about Cena, whether you like him or not you need great mic skills to rap for over a minute, or the entire time you commentate on a match. And I know I'm get laughed out of here, but seriously, Nowinski could be an awesome heel in a year or so.
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 While Cena's gimmick is good for a lowly midcarder, you don't get to be a main eventer by biting off of P.N. News... As for Austin, injured or not, when he's on, he is ON and that puts him way ahead of Angle as far as I'm concerned and just under Eddy and Benoit. In fact, I'd probably rate Booker and Rey ahead of Angle as well.
Guest saturnmark4life Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Agreed, APO. I don't think Cena or Nowinski could main event with those characters. Though if they hired the MSP again and had chris drive to the ring with them in a convertible...
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Heh... that'd be pretty goddamn funny.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Plus, his wrestling skills aren't bad. I disagree. While very carryable when facing Angle or Jericho, he's an absolute fucking mess against anyone else. If you don't want to blame Brock for that mess of a match they had, then Cena must be blamed.
Guest Justwitty Posted January 27, 2003 Report Posted January 27, 2003 Though if they hired the MSP again and had chris drive to the ring with them in a convertible... ROTFLMAO! Nowinski would become my favorite instantly with that! I agree with Saturnmark too, I think Nowinski could become a great worker with time. He reminds me of Jericho in the sense that their styles can come off awkward at times but there is rough promise there. As for 4th best worker, I think I'll go with Rey Mysterio at this point. Jericho is a better total package but his style doesn't mix well with everyone you would expect him to have a good match with. (Austin in May/June 2001 and No Way Out 2002 spring to my mind.) I'll witthold judgement on Austin until he comes back. If he is in 2001 form, I'd put him at #4 in a heartbeat.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 1. Benoit 2. Eddy 3. Chavo 4. Rey 5. Jericho 6. Booker 7. Tajiri/Edge/Angle/Knoble Too tell you the truth, most of those guys are interchangeable enough to switch around, although Booker would definately come after Kurt in my book, but you put Angle equal to EDGE?
Guest Banky Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 Plus, his wrestling skills aren't bad. I disagree. While very carryable when facing Angle or Jericho, he's an absolute fucking mess against anyone else. If you don't want to blame Brock for that mess of a match they had, then Cena must be blamed. His match against Chavo a few weeks back was solid. My prediction: John Cena will be the next star to go Hollywood. To be even bolder, he'll be the next Rock. He has the body, the looks, and the charisma. In 6 months, he'll be so polular he'll turn face and will get a significant push. Then, he'll drop the rapper gimmick and be over. This guy has it all.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 Again, it's Chavo. You don't really have to be any good to have a good match with him. Can the man improve? Yes, of course. But right now, he has a lot toimprove upon. . In 6 months, he'll be so polular he'll turn face THAT I can almost guarantee.
Guest Banky Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 Again, it's Chavo. You don't really have to be any good to have a good match with him. Can the man improve? Yes, of course. But right now, he has a lot toimprove upon. . In 6 months, he'll be so polular he'll turn face THAT I can almost guarantee. Definitly he can improve. He's nowhere near any of the top stars but you have to admit there are signs of potential. Putting him in a ring with Eddie and Chavo will make a man out of him.
Guest Vern Gagne Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 As for 4th best worker, I think I'll go with Rey Mysterio at this point. Jericho is a better total package but his style doesn't mix well with everyone you would expect him to have a good match with. (Austin in May/June 2001 and No Way Out 2002 spring to my mind.) I fault Austin for the poor match at NWO. He gave a poor effort because he was mad about working with the NWO.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 As for 4th best worker, I think I'll go with Rey Mysterio at this point. Jericho is a better total package but his style doesn't mix well with everyone you would expect him to have a good match with. (Austin in May/June 2001 and No Way Out 2002 spring to my mind.) I fault Austin for the poor match at NWO. He gave a poor effort because he was mad about working with the NWO. yeah, Austin made that match suck because he chose to.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 Again, it's Chavo. You don't really have to be any good to have a good match with him. Can the man improve? Yes, of course. But right now, he has a lot toimprove upon. . In 6 months, he'll be so polular he'll turn face THAT I can almost guarantee. Definitly he can improve. He's nowhere near any of the top stars but you have to admit there are signs of potential. Putting him in a ring with Eddie and Chavo will make a man out of him. Yeah, when carried, the guy can have some really good matches. That shows that with some work, he can definately get better and become really good.
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 Too tell you the truth, most of those guys are interchangeable enough to switch around, although Booker would definately come after Kurt in my book, but you put Angle equal to EDGE? Well, when you break them down, they both have the same tendencies(weak selling at times, good-to-great bumping, poor transitions, and quirky offense). So yeah, he's pretty justified in his rankings of both guys.
Guest Justwitty Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 I fault Austin for the poor match at NWO. He gave a poor effort because he was mad about working with the NWO. I agree that Austin was at fault at No Way Out but I remember the two of them not working real well in singles matches in May or June of 2001 either. It just seemed awkward. Like they couldn't get on the same page. (It was the week after the 2 Austin/Benoit classics.)
Guest Vern Gagne Posted January 28, 2003 Report Posted January 28, 2003 As for 4th best worker, I think I'll go with Rey Mysterio at this point. Jericho is a better total package but his style doesn't mix well with everyone you would expect him to have a good match with. (Austin in May/June 2001 and No Way Out 2002 spring to my mind.) I fault Austin for the poor match at NWO. He gave a poor effort because he was mad about working with the NWO. yeah, Austin made that match suck because he chose to. If one guys head isn't in a match, it can greatly affect the match. Austin didn't look into the match at all. Justwitty: I agree Austin and Jericho don't look like they have chemistry inside the ring.
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