Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 30, 2003 It's not like the WB would have a problem digging up his corpse and using it for a cameo or something. Here's something: Who do you think would make a great Scarecrow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted January 30, 2003 It's not like the WB would have a problem digging up his corpse and using it for a cameo or something. Here's something: Who do you think would make a great Scarecrow? I have no idea. They always talked about Jeff Goldblum in the past but he's pretty much non-existent at this point. Scarecrow could really be an unknown. Really, that's who I'd pick for most of the characters. The only reason I ever say I like Bale is because it's obvious that they're going to refuse to cast an unknown and out of all the names they've mentioned he's the one I hate the least. Seeing as how with Scarecrow you really never see his face much, it would be pointless to have a star play him. His origin could be told in flashback where he is still barely seen or something. I just don't see the point in casting faces in roles where we don't see their faces. I would have doubts about them pulling off the Scarecrow in real life in any form. I bet they'd seriously screw up his outfit. He'd probably end up looking just like the Goblin but brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EQ Report post Posted January 30, 2003 That was my only complaint with the Spider-Man movie. The Goblin costume wasn't that great. Hopefully they won't make the same mistake with Scarecrow. I think that if done right, a Batman movie with Scarecrow as the villian would be awesome. Although, if they really want to break away from the previous movies and start a new franchise, they should probably go with one of the more well-known Batman villians for this upcoming film. Probably Joker or Two-Face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted January 30, 2003 Christopher is my favorite dirrector, and he WILL become a legend, I promise you all. With the awesome as hell "feel" to his films, he IS the man that will save the Batman franchise. All three of his movies are three of my favorites ever, and I have nothing but faith and assurance, that he'll deliver like hell! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 30, 2003 Here's how I would do the Batman universe in film. Have each film carry elements over to the next, add a villain who manages to continue his villainous activites over the course of a few movies, while the more immeadiate menace is dealt with. Have the villains intro'd before their turn to be crazy. Here's how I would handle the characters (Note: These are out of order): Bruce Wayne/ Batman: Parents killed by Joe Chill, 28 upon return to Gotham, origin unchanged. Dick Grayson/ Robin: Parents killed on the orders of Falcone and killed by an underboss. Origin unchanged other than culprit. Com. Gordon: The good cop in the bad town. Widower. Alone and totally given to his work. Doesn't fully trust Batman but needs him to keep the city from descending furthur. He is angry at Batman because Batman represents his inability to, in his eyes, do his job. He comes to respect Batman more and more over the course of the series. Joker: A thrill-killer turned hitman used by Carmine Falcone for especially dirty jobs. Dropped in a vat of acid in Wayne Chemicals by Batman for doing a special favor for Falcone in assisting a robbery of Doyle's Playing Cards Factory. He uses the Chem plant as a place to dispose of evidence and is disposed of himself by Batman. Sees Batman as ruining his fun, and so he kills just because it amuses him while angering Batman. Selina Kyle/Catwoman: A high price hooker/dominatrix working for one of Falcone's underbosses, supplies the Dark Knight with info about her employers till he inspires her to rob her former wealthy clients and become a rich socialite by day and a masked theif by night. Carmine Falcone: The root of all crime in Gotham till the Joker went independant. He is an old-school mafia don and is sickened by the entrance of "freaks" He is a regular advesary till killed by Two-Face in one of the later films. Edward Nygma/ The Riddler: A disgruntled Police Psychologist who feels he was never given credit for his (small) contributions to capturing The Joker. Blames Batman for this and decides to use his knowledge of the mind to break Batman mentally as well as physically by commiting apparantly insolveable crimes and leaving clues to flaunt his superiority. Oswald Cobblepot/ The Penguin: Wealthy importer with a fixation on birds. This fixation is his weakness and causes him to act without considering his legitimate businesses. Batman has tangled with him and detests the way he has wasted his wealth in the persuit of more money, but will occaisonally use him to get information on his competitor, Carmine Falcone. Johnathan Crane/ Scarecrow: A mentally disturbed morgue attendant who wants to become feared. Sees his chance when he notices the fear after the Joker's crime spree. At a holistic medicine supply shope he buys herbs which, when mixed he hopes will create a deadly gas. He fails but notices an interesting affect of the gas. It causes hallucinations that stimulate the fear center of the brain. Becomes the Scarecrow because that's the nickname his childhood bullies gave him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 30, 2003 Your script would make for a better live Batman television show. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 30, 2003 Your script would make for a better live Batman television show. Just saying. These guys wouldn't all be in the same film. Although.... if they were..... in the words of Homer Simpson: "Mmmmm, villains." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 30, 2003 Obviously you couldn't fit in this giant storyline you laid out in which case I think it would be better suited for a television serial. You have a lot of backstory in there along with a lot of continuity in which I don't see the movie fans (new and old) having the desire to look up what happened with one of your characters in the first or second movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 31, 2003 Obviously you couldn't fit in this giant storyline you laid out in which case I think it would be better suited for a television serial. You have a lot of backstory in there along with a lot of continuity in which I don't see the movie fans (new and old) having the desire to look up what happened with one of your characters in the first or second movie. Well, it obviously depends on the quality of the series. You build on the foundation you lay in the first one. If the first one is good, and you make a sequel, those who saw the first one will know the backstory and will advise others to check it out. Plus, I never see the events becoming so complex that they would need anything more than good ole EXPOSITIONARY DIALOUGE to get the message across. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 31, 2003 You're giving the attention spans of movie watchers more credit than they deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 31, 2003 You're giving the attention spans of movie watchers more credit than they deserve. Can't argue that. I assume you liked the way I re-worked some of the villains origins? I thought to have the first generation ones somehow indirectly spin-off from Batman and Joker would be symbolic. As if Joker was the root of all evil; insanity incarnate. Do you agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 31, 2003 I assume you liked the way I re-worked some of the villains origins? I thought to have the first generation ones somehow indirectly spin-off from Batman and Joker would be symbolic. As if Joker was the root of all evil; insanity incarnate. Do you agree? You did do a good job of weaving together everyone's background and origin into the two main characters which is not an easy thing to do with the assortment of characters you used. It looks like you took some elements from the animated series, the movies and the comics in putting together your story with no deviation or sacrificing something from the original material. I like it and chances are, it will be better than the scripts the WB will come up with unless they rip yours off or come up with something good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 31, 2003 I think you're right about the TV Show thing. A shame they'd never do a live action Batman TV Show. You can't just do a Batman movie every two years, you need to have running plots, they give you more time to get to know the characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted January 31, 2003 Getting more time for your shows wouldn't only be to help your characters thrive but to also tell your story without being rushed or held within the confines of a 2 to 3 hour long movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites