Your political beliefs

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

thank you Dreamer

 

-Annie

[Guest MR. COOLING]

"Pretty sure that, were I in an elevator with Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Satan, and Ronald Reagan; & I had a gun with 4 bullets in it, I'd shoot Reagan in the face 4 times."

 

Yes because of course the winner of the Cold War is sooo more deserving of our wrath than the killer of the Jews or the killer of 20 million of his own people.

 

As for my own political views they are as follows:

 

Very Right Wing since I've swung back after a year or so of being liberal(ish)

Patrisan Tory although I despaire at what we've became

Anti-Mass Immigration/ Third World Asylumn Seeking

Hate afirmative action and all race relations

"Pro-Gay" as I'm bisexual

Believer in the Free(er) Market in health care, education, etc although I wouldn't go as far as America (I'd have vouchers)

Against Multiculturalism

Imperialist/Colonalist both in the past and today

Pro-Israeli and increasingly Pro-Sharon

Like America although they keep screwing us over (Ulster & EU)

Anti UN/EU and would happyily see the UK quit

Anti aid

Disliker of all religions but particularly Islam

Believe that English Speaking/Common Law culture is the best

and I see NATO as irrelevant and better replaced with an White Empire-American alliance.

 

And that's pretty much all of them

 

W.W.I COOLING

[Guest MR. COOLING]

"Granted, we always look somewhat like that, but according to my friends in Europe, we look worse now than we ever have in their lifetimes. "

 

Ignore we're all just bitter because we're weak and impotent because we refuse to spend money on our armed forces and so can't do a thing and Bush (who for the record I'm increasingly liking) want stick his head in the sand and petend that its the 19th Century and what the UK, France and Germany is worth two cents.

 

W.W.I COOLING

[Guest The Hamburglar]

"Granted, we always look somewhat like that, but according to my friends in Europe, we look worse now than we ever have in their lifetimes. "

 

Ignore we're all just bitter because we're weak and impotent because we refuse to  spend money on our armed forces and so can't do a thing and Bush (who for the record I'm increasingly liking) want stick his head in the sand and petend that its the 19th Century and what the UK, France and Germany is worth two cents.

 

W.W.I COOLING

Bush = proper twat. Blair is a wanker. But then again, I despise Chirac and I fucking hate Schroeder. Pair of arseholes, and as someone who is against the war on Iraq it saddens me to see my case being fought by those two insincere shit-eaters. Chirac's only against the Iraq war because he's playing to the contrary xenophobic part of the french psyche(not to mention all that money he's got tied up in Iraq) and Schroeder is just cynically targeting the natural german fear of war and trying to use the Iraq situation to get more votes. And still their own people don't like them. As for the Tories in Britain...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! Possibly the most pathetic party in the entire universe? They will be when the Liberal Democrats clean up at the next election and become the second largest party. It's sad really, I despise the bland and puny centre-left and centre-right governments in Europe yet I also can't stand the right-wing at all. And leftist radicals tend to be way too whiny. I'd like solutions to problems that go beyond "the big bad USA is MEAN, boohoohoo." Gee, and people wonder why this generation is so politically apathetic.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Big Change Mr.Cooling.

 

What do you feel about the EU.

[Guest BobbyWhioux]

I believe that in general the American people are too ignorant/uninformed to govern themselves.

 

Part of this I blame on the fact that our media is in the hands of private enterprise, and thus has to be profit-oriented, and thus informative news often takes a backseat to sensationalist news (and news that portrays sponsor companies in a bad light goes straight to the incinerator, lest said sponsors be offended and pull their sponsorship as punishment).

 

Part of this I blame on the many self-proclaimed "patriots" who are too cheap and or selfish to fork over a little more tax money to their government to pay for decent public schools. Leaving us with institutions that instill a disdain for self-education, critical thinking, and independant study. And reading, too.

 

Lacking the faculties and dilligence in general to govern ourselves, it ends up having to be done for us by an increasingly paternalistic government. Like the Romans in the time of Augustus, we live in a Republic in name only. Our "First Citizen" has gradually become more and more imperial (since LBJ on, the de facto power to declare war has gone from the congress to the president).

 

The Two Party System, and "first across the pole" voting system in which 50% + 1 = you get it all, forces both major parties to moderate themselves in a fight for the "vital center" of moderate people who actually could vote either way. Both parties play for the same audience, both are pulled to the middle, and thus both parties begin to look much the same. Not to mention they all have to kiss up to lobbyists to get the money to run a campaign and they thus end up all looking like hypocritical scumbags when one examines their speeches against their voting record.

 

[Example: 2002 California Gubernatorial Election: Gray Davis or Bill Simon. WOW! What a choice! I feel so free! Hey, do I have the freedom to stay home, run to the toilet, and throw up in disgust? I do? Good!]

 

And we the people, for the most part, couldn't care less as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing in to keep us distracted; our precious "American Way of Life." So who cares what our government has to do to get Our Oil out from under their sand...especially when looking at celebrities and what they're wearing and which one is dating which other one is the much easier visual on the eye and opiate for the brain...

 

When the people are incapable of governing themselves, Big Brother is inevitable. Whether you call that big brother King, Emperor, Czar, Kaiser, Ayatollah, Fuhrer, Il Duce, Chairman, Premier, General, or President, it doesn't really matter.

 

I don't necessarily disapprove, either.

 

As far as particular issues, my views waffle from what is commonly called "extreme left" to what is commonly called "extreme right" dependant on the issue and my current mood / body of data.

 

But mostly, I'm bitter jaded and cynical.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

Two questions/comments BobbyW...

 

"Part of this I blame on the fact that our media is in the hands of private enterprise, and thus has to be profit-oriented, and thus informative news often takes a backseat to sensationalist news (and news that portrays sponsor companies in a bad light goes straight to the incinerator, lest said sponsors be offended and pull their sponsorship as punishment)."

 

And this is worse than a state-run news system?

 

"Part of this I blame on the many self-proclaimed "patriots" who are too cheap and or selfish to fork over a little more tax money to their government to pay for decent public schools. Leaving us with institutions that instill a disdain for self-education, critical thinking, and independant study. And reading, too."

 

We spend enough money -- it's just wasted...

[Guest JMA]

Bobby makes some good points. I can't stand nationalists--whether US or otherwise. I plan to move to Japan one day and become a legal citizen there. I think John Lennon had some very good, if idealistic, views on how the world SHOULD be.

 

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

[Guest Crazy Dan]

Many of us might pay too much taxes, hence the reason why I support a more flat tax system, everyone pays a certain percentage. Sure, if you make more, you pay more, but it wouldn't be any bigger percentage than the guy who doesn' tmake as much.

 

But, what about all these companies who set up a PO box on these tax havens, who are not paying any taxes at all? That to me is complete and utter BS. If I am paying my taxes, we all should paying our taxes, regardless of how much we dislike them. They are an unfortunate, but necessary evil.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Bobby makes some good points. I can't stand nationalists--whether US or otherwise. I plan to move to Japan one day and become a legal citizen there. I think John Lennon had some very good, if idealistic, views on how the world SHOULD be.

 

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

Isn't living in Japan expensive?

 

Everyone pays taxes. Unless of course you're committing tax fraud. People like myself think that the federal gov't doesn't use the tax money in the correct way. That doesn't mean I won't pay my taxes, when the time comes.

[Guest SupaTaft]

I personally beleive we should all go back to roving bands of warriors where the strongest tribe rules all others. No system, just fighting.

 

If I beat you up, I take your food, weapons, and women. Its that simple.

 

JUst like nature intended.

 

-Taft

[Guest JMA]

Isn't living in Japan expensive?

A small price to pay for the things I want to get away from.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

"Isn't living in Japan expensive?"

 

I had a friend living there for two years, and he said it was crazy how much everything costs. He lives in New York City and thinks the cost of living there is mild compared to the Land of the Rising Sun.

 

And of course, there's that robust Japanese economy -- perhaps they should scrap the Yen and wait for John Lennon to tell them all they need is love...

[Guest JMA]

"Isn't living in Japan expensive?"

 

I had a friend living there for two years, and he said it was crazy how much everything costs. He lives in New York City and thinks the cost of living there is mild compared to the Land of the Rising Sun.

 

And of course, there's that robust Japanese economy -- perhaps they should scrap the Yen and wait for John Lennon to tell them all they need is love...

You can't buy love, y'know?

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

But you can rent it for 10 minutes or so...

[Guest JMA]

But you can rent it for 10 minutes or so...

ZING~!

[Guest JMA]

I personally beleive we should all go back to roving bands of warriors where the strongest tribe rules all others. No system, just fighting.

 

If I beat you up, I take your food, weapons, and women. Its that simple.

 

JUst like nature intended.

 

-Taft

Ah, the joys of anarchy. No democracies, no republics, no theocracies, just survival of the fittest.

[Guest Ozymandias]

"Pretty sure that, were I in an elevator with Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Satan, and Ronald Reagan; & I had a gun with 4 bullets in it, I'd shoot Reagan in the face 4 times."

 

Yes because of course the winner of the Cold War is sooo more deserving of our wrath than the killer of the Jews or the killer of 20 million of his own people.

What part of "It's a joke" do you not understand?

 

And America won the Cold War. Reagan had as much to do with that as I did.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

I'm a little late with this but here it goes.........

 

Basically my political beliefs center around taking a stand against communism, socialism, Green politics, and any other form of "Victimism" as I like to call it. If it's a step towards socialism, then I'm against it. You can identify me as a conservative libertarian or as a capitalist

 

My apathy list - These are topics that don't effect my voting habits in any way.

 

Abortion - I have no opinion on abortion other than I believe it's wrong. If a women wants to be selfish and destroy her child than that is fine by me. It does not affect me in any way.

 

Death Penalty - Don't care as long as there are some hardcore consequences for the evil one's in this world. Forced labor for life perhaps?

 

Gay Rights - Gays should have no more or no less rights than the average person.

 

My Main Stuff - These are my 5 most important beliefs and act as my litmus test. They all pretty much tie into the same basic theme. For me to support an elected official or other political pundit they MUST subscribe to this doctrine in some fashion.......

 

1. Preserve America - I have no desire to live like any of the other countries of the world. America's concept, ideas, and culture must be protected from the jeaulous and ignorant people of the world that wish to do it harm. This includes a strict immigration policy.

2. Limited Government - Gov't is inefficent, wasteful and 100X more corrupt than any business. It should be a limited entity whose sole goal is protect its citizens and the values held by its citizens. I want a country where anit-social behavior is frowned upon rather than given a handout or ready made excuse. Those that do not wish to be productive members of society (drug addicts anyone?) will have to face the consequences that sort of lifestyle may bring about.

3. Strong military - America is WORTH protecting and any and all violent opponents to this country must be dealt with swiftly and savagely.

4. Cut throat marketplace - The works of Adam Smith are my religion. I want a market that is free, competitive, and rewards people for their brilliance. Taxation must be low (this ties in with limited gov't) The free market is the closest form of true democracy that exists on the planet. It must be preserved for the people.

5. I'm against Affirmative action and other ethnic bean counting.

[Guest JMA]

I'm a little late with this but here it goes.........

 

Basically my political beliefs center around taking a stand against communism, socialism, Green politics, and any other form of "Victimism" as I like to call it. If it's a step towards socialism, then I'm against it. You can identify me as a conservative libertarian or as a capitalist

 

Abortion - I have no opinion on abortion other than I believe it's wrong. If a women wants to be selfish and destroy her child than that is fine by me. It does not affect me in any way.

Against socialism, eh comrade? Can't say I agree with you there. I agree with SOME Marxist philosophies myself. Heck, ol' Karl even coined the term "capitalism." Not all women who destroy their "child" are selfish. Keep in mind that sometimes the only way to protect the mother's life is to remove the fetus.

[Guest ISportsFan]

General Political Leanings: More conservative

 

Abortion: I'm pro-life all the way. Put the kid up for adoption if you don't want it, but don't kill it without bring given the chance to live a life of its own.

 

Gays: They should have the same rights as everybody else - no more, no less. Sexual preference is a choice and has no bearing on anything else.

 

Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare: OK with me as long as the people (mostly in welfare's case) are not just using the cash to buy booze and waste my tax dollars. Make them prove they're looking for jobs, etc.

 

I'll give more if people ask, but I gotta go eat now (Lou Malnati's from Chitown)

 

Jason

[Guest Version 3.0]

<Big Change Mr.Cooling.

 

What do you feel about the EU.>

 

 

First off my I apolgize for my irratic presence on this forum, you see my school as blocked this forum so I can only look it up when I use the libary (and) loosing my password didn't so I'm back for a bit with a new log on.

 

Now on my political beliefs. Now I know when I posted on this board regularly I seemed pretty lefty that was largely due to my sexuality. To cut a long story short I relaised I was gay and the christian-Toryism that I had been the bedrock of my views since childhood (I've been into politics for a looong time) broke. With the websites and magazines I was using to help me through I was drifting leftwards. However over the summer of 2002 I realised I was bi-sexual (don't ask) and that kind of steadied and allowed me to become more right wing plus after a year of being a centrist I relasied that centrist solutions just do not work and were in any case designed to destory things like Britain and captialism that I supported

 

On the EU I hate it. I've always hated it. I want Britain to leave tomorrow and take as many countries with us into a North Atlantic Free Trade Area as possible.

 

W.W.I COOLING

[cawthon777 0]

"Pretty sure that, were I in an elevator with Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Satan, and Ronald Reagan; & I had a gun with 4 bullets in it, I'd shoot Reagan in the face 4 times."

 

Yes because of course the winner of the Cold War is sooo more deserving of our wrath than the killer of the Jews or the killer of 20 million of his own people.

And America won the Cold War. Reagan had as much to do with that as I did.

That's crap. Reagan had to turn this country around a full 180 after Jimmy Carter's 4-year adventure in blunders. When Reagan took office, the Soviets were leading the way.