Ann Coulter

[Guest JMA]

You decide! Here are some quotes from Ms. Coulter.

 

"Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now."

 

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

 

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

 

"Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy."

 

"There is no serious dialogue or engagement of ideas between the left and the right in this country. There are no good Democrats."

 

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."

 

"Cheney is my ideal man. Because he's solid. He's funny. He's very handsome. He was a football player. People don't think about him as the glamour type because he's a serious person, he wears glasses, he's lost his hair. But he's a very handsome man. And you cannot imagine him losing his temper, which I find extremely sexy. Men who get upset and lose their tempers and claim to be sensitive males: talk about girly boys. No, there's a reason hurricanes are named after women and homosexual men, it's one of our little methods of social control. We're supposed to fly off the handle."

 

And here's a really sick one...

 

 

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

 

"It's always so comforting when Muslims cite the precise verse from the Quran that tells them killing is wrong. Don't all empathetic human beings understand that instinctively? What if they lost their Quran that day and couldn't remember?"

 

 

 

Thanks to AntiCoulter.com for the quotes.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

 

Who decided to start a website about Marney?!?!

[Guest Vern Gagne]

I like Ann Coulter. The comment about the New York Times was probably meant to be a joke. A stupid thing to say, but besides that I agree with alot of what she says here.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I like Ann Coulter. The comment about the New York Times was probably meant to be a joke. A stupid thing to say, but besides that I agree with alot of what she says here.

Care to explain why a country that guarantees it's citizens freedom of religion should be forcing another religion upon another country's people?

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Easily. Get rid of the Islamic run gov't, and put in their place a gov't like the U.S. which is christian based.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Easily. Get rid of the Islamic run gov't, and put in their place a gov't like the U.S. which is christian based.

LOL!!!

 

You're kidding, right?

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Let me explain. Have a gov't that allows it's citizens to freely worship any religion they choose. That's what the U.S. constitution did.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

The majority of people in these countries are Islamic anyway. What good will that do?

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Nothing like the constitution would fly over there. But for the small minority that isn't Islam shouldn't they have the right to worship without the threat of being prosecuted or even killed.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Perhaps, and I'm not saying they shouldn't.

 

However, the original comment was about a Christian based government... and frankly, "not forcing religion" by putting in a Christain based government is utterly stupid.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Where was I when the US government became "Christian based"? Sleeping or something?

 

Let me put it this way: The U.S. supports all religions. As I was explaining in the Religion In Schools thread, The Constitution makes reference to a non-secular "Creator," not the Christian's God. This is the God we trust on our money, we swear to tell the truth to in courts, etc. It is whatever God you choose, not necessarily the God who's name is God.

 

Yeah, I do wish more governments would take that stance in the Middle East, but that's different that what Coultier is saying. It's not "hey, you guys should let all these people pray what they want to pray, too" she's endorsing "You'll pray to OUR god becaur OUR god is better than YOUR god!"

 

...And that's the same kind of crappy message that was administered by crashing planes into the WTC. That kind of message has to stop.

 

I think we need to do our best to keep governments non-religious or endorsing of all religions, becuase governments that endorse one particular religion can kill us all.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Where was I when the US government became "Christian based"? Sleeping or something?

All I meant was the founding fathers where taking about the Christian/Judeo god when there is any mention of the divine creator, or god in the Constitution, or Declartion of Independence.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

The proof of that?

 

Seeing why they came and suffered the hardship to travel across the ocean and settle here, and how they gave citizens the freedom to worship what they want, I kinda doubt that.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Why is it so hard to believe that it's the judeo/christian god being mentioned. They allowed Freedom of Religion, that doesn't mean the writers wouldn't put their beliefs or the beliefs of the majority into the document.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Because they also believed in seperation of church and state.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

"Where was I when the US government became "Christian based"? Sleeping or something?"

 

Because none of the founding fathers were from the Middle East, Asia or Africa. Big deal.

 

I think AC makes some interesting points, but some of the time I just roll my eyes at the things she says. I did get a laugh out of the NY Times remark though...

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Because they also believed in seperation of church and state.

Not in the sense that you do.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Back it up.

 

Yawn.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Go over to the Seperation of Church and State thread, and read the quote by Thomas Jefferson in the first post.

 

This topic is already being talked about on a different thread, let's leave it to one.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I'd sure as hell hope we aren't a religious government, because those are what will be the end of us.

 

The US and nations like the US need to make sure that heavily religious governments never get much power. When we were fighting the Russians and having a nuclear arms race, neither side ever fired because it would result in retaliation and both coutnries being annhilated. Mutually assured destruction. The Soviets understood that.

 

Unfortunately, these little Middle Eastern countries with governments mired in religion are taught that dying in religious war will make them a hero in the afterlife.

 

What's going to happen when a repeat of the nuclear standoff above occurs, and the enemy tells us to bring it on because he's convinced he's got a hundred bazillion virgins waiting for him on the other side when we're all left in smoldering ruins?

 

Scary.

[Guest JMA]

Go over to the Seperation of Church and State thread, and read the quote by Thomas Jefferson in the first post.

 

This topic is already being talked about on a different thread, let's leave it to one.

Thomas Jefferson (writer of the Declaration of Independence) really helped us get separation of church and state. Jefferson believed the Bible had many interesting philosophy ideas, but tended to ignore the mythological aspects of it. He even edited them out. True story. Here are some quotes of his.

 

"And let us reflect that, having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions.... error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.... I deem the essential principles of our government.... Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; ... freedom of religion, freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected."

-- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

 

"The rights [to religious freedom] are of the natural rights of mankind, and ... if any act shall be ... passed to repeal [an act granting those rights] or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers, 2:546 (see Positive Atheism's Historical section)

 

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82 (capitalization of the word god is retained per original; see Positive Atheism's Historical Section)

 

"[N]o man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom (1779), quoted from Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings (1984), p. 347

 

"I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, 1799 (see Positive Atheism's Historical section)

 

"I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance, or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Dowse, April 19, 1803

 

"Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person's life, freedom of religion affects every individual. State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the "wall of separation between church and state," therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.

We have solved ... the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries."

-- Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808). This is his second use of the term "wall of separation," here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter. This wording was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause: Reynolds (98 U.S. at 164, 1879); Everson (330 U.S. at 59, 1947); McCollum (333 U.S. at 232, 1948)

 

Truly a man ahead of his time. The goverment should be fully secular. Now, please get back on topic.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Ann Coulter is extremely right wing, so right off the bat I disagree with just about everything she has to say as far as how to make our country better, or how to handle other countries, however she is a pretty face, so I may turn her on when she is on a Cable news show and hit the mute button....

[Guest Dangerous A]

The quotes from up top come from AntiCoulter.com Of course they are going to take anything remotely bad and put it out there. I'd bet half of those quotes are taken out of context. Consider the source people.

[Guest JMA]

The quotes from up top come from AntiCoulter.com Of course they are going to take anything remotely bad and put it out there. I'd bet half of those quotes are taken out of context. Consider the source people.

BS. How are these quotes taken out of context? The woman is a psycho. Besides, I don't trust anyone who blames "liberals" for all the problems in America (which she does). That's just lazy.

[Guest Galactic Gigolo]

You decide! Here are some quotes from Ms. Coulter.

 

"Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now."

That's probably the only belief of Coulter's that I agree with. Everything else, including her hate of the Democrats (I'm a Libertarian, so I dislike both equally) and wanting the Middle East to all be Christian is the usual bullshit.

[Guest Dangerous A]

I don't agree with Ann Coulter and I'm not saying that all or even some of the quotes are out of context. I just think you should say your quotes are from her books or articles or something. When things come from a hate site, I tend to throw up a red flag in regards to the validity of the material.

 

Back on track, the women is really, really, too far to the right.

[Guest NoCalMike]

I would say that Ann Coulter seems to be heading more to the right witch each passing year. She is pretty loony in her views if you ask me. I think she falls into the same category as Mary Ann Fitzpatrick as "too pretty to be conservative" Oh and the quotes may well be out of context, but if you have ever heard her speak on tv, it is not a smokescreen or a stretch to say she is extremely RIGHT WING.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

I think she's both

[Guest Crazy Dan]

I am not a big Coulter fan either. She a little too far right for my tastes. I didn't like her comments about the New York Times, and how McVieigh should have bombed the New York Times building instead. That was in very poor taste. Regardless if that was done as a joke, it wasn't funny. Any terrorist act is terrible. And by using a tragedy to promote a political agenda, just sickens me to death.

 

I know she thinks that everything would be fine and dandy if everyone was a gung ho conservative, but human nature dictates that not every is the same, but my feeling is Coulter doesn't think that way. So, I just choose to not buy her books and change the channel when she starts ranting and raving.

 

Extremes on both sides of the political spectrem is never a good thing. When you are so far to one side, you aren't able to see the other side, regardless of the good/bad ideas. Coulter, I feel has gotten so far to the right, that she now sits in her own little world, preaching and preaching, with out any real substance, IMO.