Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted February 21, 2003 Brit Hume? A liberal? I doubt it. If he is he does a good job of hiding it. BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA -- You called Hannity a liberal. Oh, wait, you never did. Nevermind. Here's a tip -- when you read about someone whining about "Faux News," just roll your eyes up and move on. You'll thank me later... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 You haven't shown the validity of Fox being moderate because quite frankly, you're just throwing random "liberals", and I use that term loosely, out there. You asked me to list liberals that Fox employs. I did. If you don't want to buy into that, okay don't. Say they aren't really liberals, whatever. Personally, if they strongly endorse the Democratic party and work for NPR - I'd call them liberals. Maybe that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 They strongly support the Democratic party? Prove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Brit Hume? A liberal? I doubt it. If he is he does a good job of hiding it. He does do a good job, I agree. Pay attention to the panel discussions he has on his show. A few months ago, Tom Daschle was in the DC studio and sat in with Brit and Tony Snow. It was basically Tony interviewing Brit and Daschle as they agreed on just about everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, and guess what... if he had blasted Daschle, there's a 0% chance he'd have come back on his show. You're basing your allegation on one isolated incident. Beautiful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 They strongly support the Democratic party? Prove it. Well when panel discussions are held and someone is consistantly pro-Daschle, pro-Kerry, pro-Gore, pro-taxes, pro-big government, and pro-welfare ... I'd say they support the Democratic party. Questions, comments? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, and guess what... if he had blasted Daschle, there's a 0% chance he'd have come back on his show. You're basing your allegation on one isolated incident. Beautiful. There's a big difference between disagreeing with someone and blasting them. And no, I'm not basing my decision on one incident. Read my entire post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Here are the people on FoxNews that are Liberal and are presented has such when they appear. Juan Williams, Mara Liassion, Susan Estrich, Jane Hall, Neal Gabler, and Alan Colmes. The reason Geraldo isn't included is he's mostly covering the war on terror. That happens to be something he doesn't have a liberal stance towards. FoxNews does have a slant toward the right, and a pro-American stance. I"ll fully admit that. That doesn't mean that no liberals are part of the station, and that both sides of a debate aren't heard. One thing that I do wonder about is why FoxNews cares so much about being Fair and Balanced. A majority of the viewership is Republican or right leaning. Most of these people don't care about Fair and Balanced. The liberal's aren't going to start watching, so why even bother luring viewers who have no interest in your station. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 To sway moderates - which is what most of the nation consists of. It also implies that the other networks are not fair and balanced - which makes Fox distinctive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted February 22, 2003 friggin' a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 CNN is more moderate than Fox. I believe this because Tom said it, and I trust his opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Are you kidding me? That's just liberal propoganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 friggin' a After looking at that site, it seems like "Fair" is simply the name of the site and nothing more. They use sources like the New York Times, PBS, Newsweek, the LA Times, and the Washington Post yet denounce Fox for it's biased nature? Hmm, that's fair (sarcasm). And Scott Ritter works for them? They just lost all credibility. He must be doing pretty well financially if he's on the payroll of both this site AND Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Are you kidding me? That's just liberal propoganda. Heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Gee, did you actually read it or just look for quotes from those sources? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted February 22, 2003 It seems like "FAIR's" 2 objectives are to discredit facts of liberal bias and prove conservative bias. Hardly impartial, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Gee, did you actually read it or just look for quotes from those sources? Mmhmm, I read it. It was easy to pick up the anti-government, conspiracy theory theme of the site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Mmhmm, I read it. It was easy to pick up the anti-government, conspiracy theory theme of the site. I've never got that vibe from the site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, actually, I felt it was just trying to say that Faux is biased, just as CNN and MSNBC are biased. If you claim one, you have to admit the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, actually, I felt it was just trying to say that Faux is biased, just as CNN and MSNBC are biased. If you claim one, you have to admit the other. Actually, on the site it says Fox should be like the more moderate CNN. I know this because I frequently visit (and like) the FAIR website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Mmhmm, I read it. It was easy to pick up the anti-government, conspiracy theory theme of the site. I've never got that vibe from the site. "In reporting on Secretary of State Colin Powell's February 5 presentation to the United Nations Security Council, many journalists treated allegations made by Powell as though they were facts. Reporters at several major outlets neglected to observe the journalistic rule of prefacing unverified assertions with words like "claimed" or "alleged." This is of particular concern given that over the last several months, many Bush administration claims about alleged Iraqi weapons facilities have failed to hold up to inspection. In many cases, the failed claims-- like Powell's claims at the U.N.-- have cited U.S. and British intelligence sources and have included satellite photos as evidence." Sounds like the French to me. "Oh, those silly Americans ... always causing trouble. They probably staged 9/11 just to give them an excuse to attack Iraq. Look at all this evidence they faked. Wow, a lot of effort went into these." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, actually, I felt it was just trying to say that Faux is biased, just as CNN and MSNBC are biased. If you claim one, you have to admit the other. I've admitted Fox is slanted to the right from the very beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Personal note: I don't believe CNN is biased much, if at all, either. However, for the sake of this completely stupid argument, I'm willing to "concede" that CNN is biased if this moron finally coughs up and admits that his happy society of friends over at Faux are biased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, then you claimed it's moderate. That's horseshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Yeah, then you claimed it's moderate. That's horseshit. This is what I said ... "Sure, I'll buy into the fact that Fox is a tad on the conservative side but they are a lot more moderate than any other channel out there." ...And people think conservatives are intolerant. I voice my opinion, back it up, and get called a moron for my efforts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 They're really NOT moderate, due to the fact that their most outspoken, loudmouth conservatives are given primetime spots and touted as the network's marquee journalists. Name one outspoken, loudmouth liberal on CNN who has a primetime spot. Actually, name one blatantly, and admittedly, liberal on CNN. At least they try to hide it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Also, I'm not intolerant of anything but ignorance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 CNN, IMO, is the most moderate (and all around best) news channel out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2003 They're really NOT moderate, due to the fact that their most outspoken, loudmouth conservatives are given primetime spots and touted as the network's marquee journalists. Name one outspoken, loudmouth liberal on CNN who has a primetime spot. Actually, name one blatantly, and admittedly, liberal on CNN. At least they try to hide it. Well I'm not about to break out the calculator and determine to what degree each channel is moderate. This is my personal opinion. Now then, to answer your question... James Carville and Paul Begala. In addition, the only "outspoken, loudmouth" journalists at Fox are Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity - and O'Reilly is about as conservative as a Jesse Ventura. In both cases, their show requires them to speak their mind - it's not about reporting news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Well I'm not about to break out the calculator and determine to what degree each channel is moderate. This is my personal opinion. Now then, to answer your question... James Carville and Paul Begala. In addition, the only "outspoken, loudmouth" journalists at Fox are Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity - and O'Reilly is about as conservative as a Jesse Ventura. In both cases, their show requires them to speak their mind - it's not about reporting news. Please, don't compair O'Reilly to Ventura. That is an insult towards Ventura. And you forgot Tony Snow. Not to mention all the guests they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites