Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Sorry if I left out your favorite. I tried to pick those with the biggest achievements. I myself will be voting for Lincoln, with Kennedy in a VERY close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Jimmy Carter?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted February 7, 2003 People are gonna say that putting Kennedy and Carter on there and not George Washington is a little odd. But I don't think the choices one lists on the poll matter as much as the ensuing discussion, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 7, 2003 John F. Kennedy??? Jimmy Carter?? What kind of fucked up list is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 John F. Kennedy??? Why would you not like Kennedy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChris Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Greatest president isn't a popularity contest. I voted for Roosevelt, myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 7, 2003 John F. Kennedy??? Why would you not like Kennedy? He was only president for three years first of all. And that whole Bay of Pigs thing kinda soured my opinion on him. I just thinking leaving out George Washington and putting those two clowns is a bit weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I voted other. As presidents go, ya just can't beat John Adams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I'm a bit shocked in the inclusion of Jefferson and Kennedy. My vote's for Roosevelt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I'm a bit shocked in the inclusion of Jefferson and Kennedy. Why so? Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independance and helped separate church and state. Kennedy improved religious tolerance. I myself voted for Lincoln. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 7, 2003 But he didn't do that as president. Jefferson also did the Embargo Act which really hurt his presidency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Bill Clinton... and no i'm not joking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Like I said, I chose those based on the biggest contributions to society. If I didn't list your favorite, I'm sorry. But it's no big deal. Just pick "other" and explain who your choice is below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Okay- I'm just pointing out flaws of Kennedy and Jefferson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 So far in the "Other" category we have one vote for John Adams and one vote for Bill Clinton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I don't want to get into an argument over the merits of Jefferson, but just about everyone would consider him one of the greatest presidents, including most historians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted February 7, 2003 1. Abraham Lincoln 2. Andrew Jackson 3. Ronald Reagan 4. Franklin Roosevelt 5. James Polk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I'd put Lincoln and FDR 1+2. Kennedy had a lot of things to deal with in his short presidency: The Cuban Missile Crisis, dealing with the Soviets in general, putting into motion the events that would put man on the moon, etc. He was also the only Kennedy I don't hate with a passion (I'm from Mass, so I have to deal with Edward Kennedy shooting his mouth off between shots of vodka). Most of Carter's successes came after his presidency, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Honest Abe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted February 7, 2003 FDR, all the way. Most effective liberal president evar. I dig everything the first few presidents did too, as a general rule. Bonus points go to Taft for being so freaking fat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RevEvil Report post Posted February 7, 2003 William Harrison Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tim Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Ronnie Reagan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Not only was Carter a horrible President, even today he continues to meddle in affairs he has no business being involved. I voted for Ronald Reagan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Not only was Carter a horrible President, even today he continues to meddle in affairs he has no business being involved. I voted for Ronald Reagan. What affairs does he have no business meddling in? And I'd gladly take Carter over Reagan or Bush. Both men I consider to be deplorable human beings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Most of Carter's successes came after his presidency, I think. What successes? He should just stick to building houses. George Washington. I love Ronald Reagan, but G.W. created 2- 4 year terms, the cabinet, and the title Mr.President, when he could of had people call him King George. Without "Dad" the Presidency wouldn't be what it is today. James Polk is underrated. Texas, and the land that would become California were added under is presidency. Happy Birthday Ronald Regan. 92 years old....sadly he can't celebrate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Happy Birthday Ronald Regan. 92 years old....sadly he can't celebrate Carter did win the nobel peace prize. Does that not count as even a small success? And I won't be losing any sleep over the Reagan thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted February 7, 2003 1. Washington 2. Monroe 3. Lincoln 4. Jackson - hey the guy beat the shit out of his own assassin 5. Jefferson 6. FDR 7. Polk 8. Regan 9. Teddy Rosevelt 10. John Adams - was just hampered by having Jefferson as his VP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted February 7, 2003 "Carter did win the nobel peace prize. Does that not count as even a small success? And I won't be losing any sleep over the Reagan thing." HAHAHAHAHAHA -- You mean that agreement he made with N. Korea regarding nukes? HAHAHAHAHA! Seriously, Carter: Nice guy, bad prez... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Not only was Carter a horrible President, even today he continues to meddle in affairs he has no business being involved. I voted for Ronald Reagan. What affairs does he have no business meddling in? And I'd gladly take Carter over Reagan or Bush. Both men I consider to be deplorable human beings. Yes, I'm sure the country loved insane lines at the pump, an energy crisis, and general horrible times. He's a great person, and a much better ex-president than most others, but he was not a good president in any way, shape, or form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Washington, no one is even close. 2nd choice would be Jackson. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites