Guest raptor Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I added the Cannonball comment because I thought that was what Sass was getting at, not in reference to you, starvenger.
Guest Sassquatch Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Cannonball is joining X-Treme X-Men under the "Cannonball" name, so maybe they realized that they don't have to pay Liefield for using him anymore. Marvel never had to pay Liesfeld for using Cannonball. Chris Claremont came up with Cannonball in his New Mutants Graphic Novel when the team made it's debut in the Marvel Universe. But since Cannonball became so closely associated with Liesfeld creation X-Force, he was grouped together with Liesfeld's other creations and Quesada said in his second month of being EiC that he wanted to "rid Marvel of Rob's disease."
Guest converge241 Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 cannonball is still around? is he still "immortal" what did they call that? externals right?
Guest Sassquatch Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 External seems to be the term of the month that Marvel has stuck with when describing out an immortal.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 I liked Rob's style, I still do. Its kinda like early Todd. Didnt Rob draw spidey at one point? The guy who wrote the guide to understanding comics said it best about Rob, his style was new and edegy and more gritty then previous artist and it connected with a new audience. It worked. To bad he flaked out and didn't have the ability to add any dimension to his characters. Still Shatterstar was the shiznit. And Deadpool is still one of the better 90's villians, that guy was a total tweener.
Guest starvenger Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 I liked Rob's style, I still do. Its kinda like early Todd. Didnt Rob draw spidey at one point? The guy who wrote the guide to understanding comics said it best about Rob, his style was new and edegy and more gritty then previous artist and it connected with a new audience. It worked. To bad he flaked out and didn't have the ability to add any dimension to his characters. Still Shatterstar was the shiznit. And Deadpool is still one of the better 90's villians, that guy was a total tweener. Rob drew Spidey in an issue of X-Force (#4?), which was a "widescreen" crossover with Spider-Man, which I think was Todd's last issue. It was one of the worst renderings of Spidey ever. Scott McCloud (the writer/artist of Understanding Comics) makes a good point, but it wasn't just Rob with the new style - Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio and Marc Silvestri all started doing the gritty style at the same time, and it started the new trend towards the overly dynamic art. Shatterstar was a decent Rob character - read: there was actually a bit of a backstory - but once Rob left there was no direction for him. If Rob had any idea of where the story was going at all, which is debatable. I still maintain that while Rob (with tons of help from Steve Ditko circa Amazing Fantasy #15) created the look of Deadpool, it was Fabian Nicieza who really cemented the merc-with-a-mouth's popularity.
Guest converge241 Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 i will say i admire Rob's energy that was mentioned he always seemed excited at least
Guest Crazy Dan Posted March 3, 2003 Report Posted March 3, 2003 I have a positive experience from meeting Rob Liefeld. I went to a comic convention a few years back. He was one of the main artists there. And he did one of the coolest things for all of the fans there. If one was willing to wait in line, he was willing to draw you the character of your choice. I asked him to draw Canonball, and he did. In fact I still have the drawing sitting on my TV. Oh yeah, he did this for no charge at all. I also liked his style of comic drawing. Of course I stopped collecting comics soon after that, so I never got to see any of his "newer stuff". When I met him at the convention, he was really cool. He appeared to be a very down to earth guy.
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