Guest Lil Naitch Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Did anybody else think that Elektras' bodygaurd kinda looked like a young Scott Hall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted February 17, 2003 "That light at the end of the Tunnel, that's not Heaven, it's the C Train" Anyone else liked that line besides myself ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 17, 2003 Would've been better if the line said A Train :slaps knee: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted February 17, 2003 Would've been better if A-Train was on the Track ::Drum Roll:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 17, 2003 I really liked the movie (and I also like Spider-Man). This is a very differant type of movie than Spider-Man, though. Don't go in expecting it to be the same. Oh, and if you read the official comic adaptation of the movie it says they never found Elektra's body. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted February 17, 2003 Where can I get that at ? BTW, in the movie, didn't the Cops find Elektra's body on the Roof right after Daredevil split to go after Bullseye ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Passenger Report post Posted February 17, 2003 I thought it was pretty good. I liked it better than Spiderman, then again i'm not a big spidey fan so I was probably biased. The only thing I really didn't like in the movie, was when Murdock and Elektra first met and they had that fight type thing in the park, that part was cringeworthy, so obviously choreographed...and stupid looking. Affleck was pretty good I thought, I have no complaints with him at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted February 17, 2003 I finally saw Daredevil on Saturday night. Nothing too offensive but like Tom and others have said it lacked a soul which didn't give me a connection to the characters in the movie as they all just seemed like these wounded individuals who I would not want to be around. John Favreau as Foggy Nelson was just gold whenever he was on-screen and was the big bright spot for me in the movie. Jennifer Garner did as good a job as she could with the material she was given which wasn't really much in terms of character growth. Colin Farrell's over-the-top acting as Bullseye was the other bright spot in the movie and nailed down the characters mannerisms. The lack of the cool comic book version of Bullseye's costume was weak but can be forgiven (hopefully Marvel will stick with the original costume in the books...). Michael Clarke Duncan was too ghettoized in the beginning and near the end for me to think of him as the Kingpin whose skin color never played a role in the character's dialogue or motives. He did a nice job in his portrayal of the Kingpin but the ghettoizing of the character by the studio was unnecessary. The rose bit was also corny as well since someone as smart as the Kingpin would never leave a calling card every time he would take someone out which could be traced back to him. Ben Affleck, love him or hate him, did a good job in his roles of Matt Murdock and Daredevil. I didn't notice anything off with his acting blind around other characters. The interaction between him and Favreau was the best part of the movie in terms of dialogue exchange between two characters in the movie and I was hoping we would get to see more of them together. You could tell that Affleck bulked up for the role a bit which was nice to see since Daredevil is quite bulky himself but not to the point of a muscular freak. He had a good and solid presence as Daredevil as he gave off this vibe in which you would have to be crazy to try to fight him. The kid who played the younger version of Murdock also did a good job in his portrayal of a blind person. The changes to the origin of the character were fine since they were still kept true to the original material which did not needed to be changed around at all and would fit within the confines of a movie without confusion. The guy who played the father of Murdock also did a nice job with the material he had and I was half expecting him to hit little Murdock at one point when he was shown to be drunk since the comic book version dad use to do that. 7 out of 10 for the whole outing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted February 18, 2003 This might be the only movie where I actually would love to see a longer directors cut on DVD. I really think 30 more minutes in this movie would've helped a lot of it's problems. 30 more minutes of character and story build up and it could've possibly been right up there near the top of the comic book movies. Instead it's just a very good action movie. I still don't like the Bullseye character. I thought he was just way too over the top. Over the top isn't always a bad thing, but in this movie he just stood out because nothing else was played like that. The whole movie was very serious except for this one very campy character with a bunch of corny lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted February 19, 2003 Downhome and Lethargic basically said everything I was going to say, this movie was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted February 19, 2003 I liked this movie the most out of the recent Marvel films (which would be ALL Marvel films, since the others are terrible). Those that thought that the best scene in the Batman franchise was the very first one of the original, should love this movie, as all the characters with the exception of Elektra are basically going through the motions. I love the lack of a lame Kingpin plot to drag down the movie. Magneto's scheme in X-Men almost ruins the movie. I also really enjoy the similarities to Spiderman for which there is a darker, more realistic response to (ex. the rain scene). The characters are intelligent, which is rare in a comic book film. They may make bad choices at time, but they are realistic ones. My biggest problem with the film, besides the score, is that damn PG-13 rating. Without it (ie. an R rating), and the re-insertion of the Coolio suplot from the script, most of the problems like the short length and lack of character for Kingpin would be fixed. More than about any other film I can think of, I would love to see the Director's Cut of this film. SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . . . Besides the rain scene on the roof, which is quite touching. My favourite sequence is the Bullseye/Elektra fight. In any other movie, while Bullseye is taunting Elektra and not killing her immediately, either she would make the comeback or Daredevil would save her. When Bullseye kills her, its like seeing Goldfinger sit there while the laser cuts Bond in half. Keep in mind I knew nothing about Daredevil before this film. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted February 20, 2003 *SPOOOOOOOOILERS* Yea, when he killed Elektra I was like '...well...sure didn't see THAT coming' but the end teased that she might not be dead, so we'll have to wait for the sequil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lil Naitch Report post Posted February 20, 2003 In the book, the cops didn't find her body. I also read on 411 that the director stated that he had to make multiple cuts in order for it to make the PG-13 rating. It's too bad that all comic movies have to be PG-13 to get the mainstream audience, but such is life. I also beleive the director said that the DVD would have an extended cut with an additional subplot that was also cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr. Slim Citrus Report post Posted February 20, 2003 ...He did a nice job in his portrayal of the Kingpin but the ghettoizing of the character by the studio was unnecessary. The rose bit was also corny as well since someone as smart as the Kingpin would never leave a calling card every time he would take someone out which could be traced back to him. Doesn't that gimmick belong to Kingpin's brother in the Marvel canon? I'm pretty sure there's some character named "The Rose" who has some sort of connection to Fisk... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Indeed, The Rose (at least the original Rose; I seem to remember more than one at some point) was Richard Fisk, and I believe he was the brother of the Kingpin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted February 21, 2003 Richard Fisk, also known as the Rose or Blood Rose, is the Kingpin's son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Richard Fisk, also known as the Rose or Blood Rose, is the Kingpin's son. Son. Damnit, I should have remembered that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted February 22, 2003 Saw the movie the other day. And like Kahran, my favorite scene was Elektra vs. Bullseye. But it wasn't for the same reasons. Bullseye and Elektra were the only characters in the whole movie I really got into. I found DareDevil boring and dull. Same with Kingpin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted February 23, 2003 So, I finally saw it, and it wasn't a bad movie. Still, there were some problems. Namely the lack of heat between Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck. Not for a lack of trying, but that spark wasn't there, and unfortunately that's the whole key to the DD/Elektra relationship. Johnston has it written out well, but the chemistry just isn't right between the actors. The fight scenes were ok. A little too much exaggerated wire for me though. And I can't say anything about the CGI that hasn't been said already. I have some minor issues - like how quickly his confidantes and enimies end up discovering his secret, eclipsing Batman's record by 1 or 2 movies - but they're more nitpicks so I really don't count it against the movie. The "radar sense" was a very cool effect, and they used it well during the course of the movie. The soundproof coffin was also a nice touch. In fact, most of the things they did with the blindness worked pretty well. Overall, much better than I thought it would be, but not without it's flaws. I'll call it about 7/10, better than X-Men but not nearly as good as Spider-Man, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted February 23, 2003 I agree starvenger. The interaction between Garner and Affleck's characters was pretty weak and did not convey just hopw devastated DD was in the comics when Elektra did die. Playing Russian Roulette with a crippled Bullseye is just downright scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Pretty good flick. I don't have too many criticisms for the movie, other than it was definitely too short to give Daredevil's story proper treatment. I also though the fight between Elektra and Matt Murdock in the park in front of all those kids was a bit heavy-handed. Why would he risk blowing his cover by fighting in public like that? I know he played it off as "growing up in Hell's Kitchen", but it just seemed a bit much. I definitely saw a ton of parallels between this and the first Batman movie. Very dark, similar origin stories, intertwining the drama with the black humour. The "radar sense" effect looked trés cool, especially in the subway when he banged on the supports to get a reading on the perp. I also liked how they showed DD taking all those painkillers once he got back to his place... it played up the fact that although he's got amazing agility, strength, etc., he's still human, in more ways than one. The daily confessionals also added to that well. The sensory depravation tank was an excellent touch, although I think its purpose may have escaped some of the more slack-jawed viewers in the audience. All in all, a nice outing for a guy who rarely ventures into big noisy crowded movie theatres on a Saturday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I know he played it off as "growing up in Hell's Kitchen", but it just seemed a bit much. I suppose that all the kids learn Hell's Kitchen Kung Fu there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites