Guest Brian Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I've seen cops go too far many a times, at protests and on the streets.
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Um... I'm sure you brought this up for a reason, but I don't know what for. Are these the main organizers of the nation's protests or something? I didn't see it mentioned anywhere else in this thread is why I ask. I was just giving example of one of the leading anti-war groups being founded by an anti-american, anti-capitalist marxist group.
Guest MD2020 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Why do you say that? I hope you'd back that up with facts. The very idea of protest is very American, after all. It doesn't help their cause that they're marching with signs BLAMING America and Bush for all the world's ills. There's a big difference between being against a war because you think it's an unwise decision (like Kotz does) than protesting against America. Big difference. For the most part, these protestors see the U.S and Bush as bigger threats than Saddam, Bin-Laden, Islam ect. Exactlty. Some of these protestors see Bush as being more of a bad guy than Saddam, or that Bush is as bad as Hitler. Hopefully, these are the fringe elements. It's totally possible to be against the war without being against America, but when you let these "Bush=Hitler" idiots take all the press coverage, then all of the protestors look like idiots.
Guest Tyler McClelland Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Bush does not equal America. Just because someone is anti-Bush doesn't make them anti-American.
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Did anyone happen to find the free Mumia people in the crowd?
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Did anyone happen to find the free Mumia people in the crowd? Oh I'm sure they where their with bells on. A protest just wouldn't be the same without the free Mumia crowd.
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Bush does not equal America. Just because someone is anti-Bush doesn't make them anti-American. So you think a country's leader does not represent his country?
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 When more than half of the country did not vote for him? No.
Guest LooseCannon Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Bush does not equal America. Just because someone is anti-Bush doesn't make them anti-American. So you think a country's leader does not represent his country? Are you really this stupid or are you just being an asshole?
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 When more than half of the country did not vote for him? No. Less then half the country voted, period.
Guest Kingpk Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 When more than half of the country did not vote for him? No. Clinton didn't either. Both his elections were fairly close on the popular side. '92: Clinton - 44,908,254, Bush - 39,102,343 '96: Clinton - 47,401,185, Dole - 39,197,469 Just saying, the popular vote doesn't mean much to the electoral system.
Guest DrTom Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 So you think a country's leader does not represent his country? Politically and on the world stage, yes. As a proxy to trumpet the uglier side of patriotism? Hell no. I know quite a few people who dislike the policies and politics of George W. Bush, and I would never question their love for America for a second. There are a lot of people around the world who aren't exactly fans of America, though, and they'll pillory the president no matter who he is and no matter what his politics are.
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Agreed. I'm just showing the worthlessness of "Bush=Hitler" protest signs.
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 When more than half of the country did not vote for him? No. We don't decide the President based on popular vote. Bush was the winner because he received more electoral votes than Gore.
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