Guest EricMM Posted February 16, 2003 Report Posted February 16, 2003 I got the idea from a conversation I just had. What do you think is the most stupid and whiney PC statements ever made? Today someone told me, "Lets go outside and make a snow-person!" (which is not a snow man since that is SEXIST )
Guest DrTom Posted February 16, 2003 Report Posted February 16, 2003 I think it's the whole replacement of "man" for "person" across the board that gets me the most. "Chairman" is a title that indicates authority, not gender. "Chairwoman" or the awful "chairperson" just sound stupid. PC has managed to muddy up the English language and make it less precise. "Manholes" have become "Personholes" in some cities because women work in sewers too. It's silly how we're forced to cater to oversensitive people with theatrically overdeveloped persecution complexes. How long before "managers" become "personagers?" The women should take the bad with the good, though. "Manhunts" should obviously be renamed "personhunts," since women can be violent and deadly killers also. That opinion tends to be unpopular with the feminists, though, since choking on the cake is never considered once you're having it and eating it, too.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted February 16, 2003 Report Posted February 16, 2003 Might not be PC, but still really fucking annoying: Me: You know, females just seem to have more natural rhythm than males. Uber-feminist friend: It's because women are supposed to perform while it isn't right for men to move around because it's something that WOMEN do. It's all gender programming! Then a few days later... Me: Why are there DINOSAURS at a Christmas light show? Uber-feminist friend: Because showing little dollies and girl toys wouldn't be masculine!
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 They have these ads for AT&T, and the lady asked her mom to come see her grandbaby. It's a little baby girl and they say Grandbaby. One might think that's only an ad, but some guy was on the radio saying some lady in a store in my hometown said the exact same thing, and the kid was right there.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 "I think it's the whole replacement of "man" for "person" across the board that gets me the most." I second this. Sorry feminazis, but if I'm out cold in a burning building I want a fire-MAN rescuing me. And how come we still use witch-hunts? What about us Wizards?...
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Grandbaby? What happened to Grandchild? Universal, no matter what the age, and gender-neutral! Solves it all!
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 I've said it before, and I'll say it again: We're becoming a race of pussies. Oops, that might be too un-PC...
Guest Ace309 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 "That's the pot calling the kettle a cooking utensil." That just makes me want to scream. Also, I'd like to clobber anyone offended by "black eye" or "black sheep."
Guest razazteca Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 (blank)-American use to describe people not white.
Guest Tyler McClelland Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 What's wrong with Native American instead of Indian? After all, they're um... not from India.
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 I'm just as Native American as they are.
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 I call them American Indians. My cousin who is 1/8 American Indian, knows full blooded American Indians, and says they don't mind being called American Indian.
Guest EricMM Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 If I were to say what one should call a Native American/American Indian, well probably first just uh American. But if you were trying to say their equivilant of "scottish" I'd use Native American or if you knew it their original tribe. I mean if someone can be Sicilian, someone can be Cherokee right?
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 If I were to say what one should call a Native American/American Indian, well probably first just uh American. That makes to much sense Eric.
Guest Tyler McClelland Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 They're NOT Indians. They don't originate from India. Since we insist on being racist based on the color of our skin, we don't call them American. Since we feel the need to label everyone, Native American is the way to go. Calling them Indians, American Indians, whatever... is really fucking dumb.
Guest Olympic Slam Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 I think it's the whole replacement of "man" for "person" across the board that gets me the most. If I may raise the nerdometer for a moment, I've always wondered if the pharse in the original Star Trek " to boldly go where no *man* has gone before" was changed to "to boldly go where no *one* has gone before" in the Next Generation for PC reasons. Was it changed to be politically correct or was it changed to make the new adventures sound more daunting? After all, "no one" could mean a lot of things. Maybe the Enterprise was exploring regions of space that no thing (alien creature, freakish cosmic entities) had ever explored. Or maybe it was changed just to shut up some bored femi-nazis. What do you all think? Note: I use the term Native American and Indian equally when working in historical context. If I'm dealing with people who are passionate about their heritage, then I refer to them by the requested tribal background.
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Being called Caucasian (forgive the spelling) really drives me nuts. Just call me white damn it!!!
Guest red_file Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Being called Caucasian (forgive the spelling) really drives me nuts. Just call me white damn it!!! I personally enjoy being called a cracker or a honkey. It's just silly. It just annoys me that there's no parity in the PC world for me. As a white, middle class male, there's no non-PC language that can be used against me, which leaves me scratching my head in wonderment that others can find these harmless words so offensive.
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 They're NOT Indians. They don't originate from India. Since we insist on being racist based on the color of our skin, we don't call them American. Since we feel the need to label everyone, Native American is the way to go. Calling them Indians, American Indians, whatever... is really fucking dumb. They don't originate from America, either.
Guest Tyler McClelland Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 So that makes it right to say they're from India?
Guest SP-1 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 No. Being 1/4 Cherokee, I don't call myself 1/4 Native American (since my ancestors that supply that quarter likely migrated to this continent anyway). I call myself 1/4 Cherokee, because that's the specific group of people that that part of my heritage comes from. I see no point in calling anyone Native American for historical reasons because, as I understand it, people migrated here quite a long time ago, and then the Europeans migrated here sometime later and mistakenly thought the people here were Indians and thus natives to the land. Perhaps "First Americans" is closer to the truth. As for the whole "man" being replaced thing, I'll use it because it's the way I was taught to speak in gradeschool. I didn't come across any PC style words, really, until I got older, and I think it's useless. Power and Equality do not come with the restructuring of a language to reflect the already obvious division of gender.
Guest Tyler McClelland Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Actually, they thought they were IN India, not that the peoples migrated from India. I agree, calling people by their tribe is probably the best description.
Guest SP-1 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 That's what I meant. The migrating Europeans thought that the people here were native Indians because they thought they had landed in India, IIRC. I phrased it badly up there, sorry.
Guest DrTom Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 I've always wondered if the pharse in the original Star Trek " to boldly go where no *man* has gone before" was changed to "to boldly go where no *one* has gone before" in the Next Generation for PC reasons. Was it changed to be politically correct or was it changed to make the new adventures sound more daunting? AFAIK, it was changed for PC reasons. After all, "no man" is obviously biased against women, provided those women are ridiculously oversensitive, of course. Star Trek also has gobs of alien races to which terms like "man" and "woman" don't really apply, so I guess they can justify it that way. But everything I read at the time indicated it was for PC reasons. Look at the casts starting with TNG: there's a lot of diversity there, which was the obvious intent. I'm not saying that's a bad thing or anything like that, but it's obvious they did that to change with the increasingly PC times.
Guest SP-1 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 The Original Trek had a pretty diverse group of characters. White, black, asian, Russian, etc.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 All of which served the white male captain.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 If you REALLY want to get technical, we're all Africans.
Guest SP-1 Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Well, Kirk WAS oozing with the charisma.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 The whole Native American/Indian dispute is all the fault of Columbus. Why we ever honored him is beyond me. It's all kind of an odd argument when we name sports teams the Indians, or even the Redskins. To quote Chris Rock, how about the New Jersey Niggers? Anyway, I feel it's unnecesary to call people (blank)-Americans as well. That's probably the one that annoys me the most. Especially since I've never known any black people that have a problem being called black, but I have had several white people tell me "They prefer to be called African-Americans." It's like they're talking about some jungle tribe. "Oh... look at them. We must respect their strange customs. They prefer to be called African-Americans. With any luck, they may worship us as gods."
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 18, 2003 Report Posted February 18, 2003 Columbus..pshaw. My viking ancestors beat him to the punch, but were too damn hardcore to bother writing it down. They were too busy pillaging. Ol' Chris never did land on the American mainland, though. He kept his stuff in the Caribbean.
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