The War On Iraq Explained.....

[Guest Johnson1620]

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

The funny thing is that THIS ISN'T ABOUT OIL, GODDAMMIT.

[Guest Johnson1620]

Sure it's not(wink wink).

 

Officially it isn't about oil, but only the ignorant would believe that.

[Guest SP-1]

Yeah, because you've shown your self to be a part of the group of people who are anything but ignorant.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

No, people who are actually paying attention to and following this know it isn't.

 

Is 3% of the world's oil supply worth invading over?

[Guest Kingpk]

I'd call that picture ghey, but I'm afraid you would start a thread in NHB saying I flamed you and want a public apology.

 

I'll just say that Saddam would be 6 feet under already and oil derricks with the stars and stripes propped up all over Iraq.

[Guest Downhome]

Sure it's not(wink wink).

 

Officially it isn't about oil, but only the ignorant would believe that.

Then color me the most ignorant son-ofa-bitch here.

 

I can't wait 'till we invade Mexico, woohoo!

[Guest Johnson1620]

Actually the number you were looking for there is 10%. That is the amount of oil that the US gets from Iraq. But to say I am ignorant of current events is, well, ignorant.

 

This is a political war. The main reason is because of the arms that Saddam holds. But there is much more there to gain then the satisfaction of dis-arming a maniac. "There's oil in them there hills!" To think that there aren't other motives there is ridiculous.

 

But the pic is still funny.

[Guest SP-1]

Any war has it's plunder. Since it isn't the main focus of the war, I don't see why the picture has very much comedic merit, or why the concept is harped on very much.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

Actually the number you were looking for there is 10%. That is the amount of oil that the US gets from Iraq. But to say I am ignorant of current events is, well, ignorant.

 

This is a political war. The main reason is because of the arms that Saddam holds. But there is much more there to gain then the satisfaction of dis-arming a maniac. "There's oil in them there hills!" To think that there aren't other motives there is ridiculous.

 

But the pic is still funny.

Hey, dumbshit (yes, I flamed you), I said 3% of the WORLD'S oil, not the US's oil. This is a globally-involved conflict, since we want to bring other countries into this. How am I supposed to take your current events acumen seriously if you can't even read a fucking post normally?

[Guest Johnson1620]

Actually I think it's called having a sense of humor. I know that I can look past all the bullshit we know and just have a good laugh. Sorry if you don't see it, you're missing out.

[Guest SP-1]

I really hope you're not implying that I have no sense of humor.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Just a suggestion Johnson don't tell Dale Earnhardt fans you think this War is about Oil. Those are some old fashioned flag waving, commie hating, hippy beating people.

[Guest Kingpk]

Actually I think it's called having a sense of humor. I know that I can look past all the bullshit we know and just have a good laugh. Sorry if you don't see it, you're missing out.

Because the fucking joke is PLAYED already. "Bush is a dumb Texas redneck addicted to oil HYUK HYUK HYUK." It's gotten as annoying as the Clinton jokes but at least he did something to earn the ridicule.

[Guest spiny norman]

Yeah, I don't agree with the war at all, but don't get me started on that. But no way is it over oil, and to say so is stupid and theorising on what you are not 100% certain of.

 

Stop speculating on such trivialities, if you're going to be anti-the war do so because you think it inhumane, because it certainly isn't to profit the oil companies (though that certainly is happening, that's not necessarily the reason for the war).

 

And please, just accept that not everyone on this board will find your posts amusing or agree with all your beliefs. If you immediately take offence to this you will lose any support you gained from others on here.

[Guest Johnson1620]

Fuck that! In no way am I anti-war. I am all for blowing his ass away. But then again, you should really remember what happened in Afganistan before dismissing that this war is in no way over oil.

[Guest Kingpk]

What the hell do you mean by that? I don't recall Afghanistan HAVING any oil to speak of.

[Guest snuffbox]

The ammount of oil in Iraq isnt the only issue. Keep in mind the ammount of fuel needed for aircraft, ships, helicopters etc. It is ALOT! And Bush, Cheney etc all have the oil connections, so if this situation gets dragged out, it will be alot of money in the hands of American oil barons. That is a key point here. If this is done quicky, its not really an issue, but anything over a week will start reeking of profit. Same thing happened in Vietnam, example LBJ's buddies at Bell Helicpter.

[Guest Johnson1620]

The ammount of oil in Iraq isnt the only issue. Keep in mind the ammount of fuel needed for aircraft, ships, helicopters etc. It is ALOT! And Bush, Cheney etc all have the oil connections, so if this situation gets dragged out, it will be alot of money in the hands of American oil barons. That is a key point here. If this is done quicky, its not really an issue, but anything over a week will start reeking of profit. Same thing happened in Vietnam, example LBJ's buddies at Bell Helicpter.

Finally! A voice of reason. This will be a long war, not doubt about it. Even the experts agree.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

This War will require U.S. troops to be in Iraq up to 2 years after the War. Most experts don't think the War won't last very long. The length of time U.S. soldiers will be in Iraq after the war is over is what experts agree upon.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

I figured it out a long time ago. Dubbya's just trying to fix what his father screwed up/couldn't do 10 years ago.

[Guest snuffbox]

There is absolutely no legit reason why this war would last past one week. The US is saying 48 hours. I can buy the 2 years after thing as reconstruction and all will be a tough row to hoe. But if the fighting lasts past a few days itll start looking like the late 60s. There is alot of money to be made with this. Will Bush want to look good with a quick decisive win? Or make a few billion $ for him and his buddies? A quick win would probably ensure reelection, but Vietnam never hurt LBJ (he chose not to run again) or Nixons presidential bids. war is the single biggest money producer in the history of people. How this goes will become visible clearly within its first week. And if Iraq ends up being backed up by north Korea, China, and/or Russia it will most certainly be World War 3. A quick end will probably stop that, but $$$ talks and it talks LOUD.

 

There is more to defeating Iraq than JUST oil, but it is a big reason. Ousting Saddam Hussein is necessary. But again, there is alot of cash to be spent and made here. The next month should be huge.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

The picture is cute but the WAR FOR OIL!!! banter is puh-layed out. And if this war was about oil, then how come we haven't taken on Saudi Arabia? How come Bush bends over backwards to call the Saudis our friends when 10 (I believe) of the 9/11 high-jackers were from Saudi Arabia?

[Guest BDC]

First off, Johnson, I'm so damn glad you're around to tell us these things.

 

If you're going to say the war is all about oil and then say it's not, I'm going to say you either have some serious dissonance or you're just trying not to realize that you've managed to make yourself look like a serious backpedaler.

 

Second, what's this war about? Honestly? Really? People won't believe you. Swear on it. It's about WMD. Really. If American soldiers, who incidentally sign up to go and fight and maybe die, go to Iraq, whip Hussien and clear out the aresenal, that means that NONsoldiers in this country won't have to deal with that same arsenal in the future.

 

Will that prevent any sort of attack? Hell no. Will it cut into a readily availible supply of weaponry? You'd better believe it.

 

Now, if you're upset or offended, go sit in the corner and think about this. You're getting stuck on this damn oil bias and making Dubya redneck/oil deadend arguments. At least Marvin put some effort into his.

[Guest snuffbox]

Easy there BDC, if WMD was the sole big reason for this then our target would be North Korea. Theyve allready admitted to having weapons, and with the power to attack the west coast of the US. Theres alot more to this then whatever is on CNN or whatver. If it was only WMD then theres much bigger fish to fry. It is a major reason and yes, ousting Sadamm is necessary. But oil is involved. And making Bush look good is also involved. And money, lots and lots of money.

 

Above anything else, all the conspiracy theories and all the protests, this must be absolutely successful and quick. Bush simply can not fuck this up. With possible enemies like N Korea and Russia waiting in the wings this must be a total and outright success.

[Guest DrTom]

I love how people presume we'd just cart all the Iraqi oil back to the States once the war is won. Even if Saddam and everyone in his regime is killed, there still has to be someone to take their place. The leader of the largest resistance group said he would tear up all current oil deals if his group replaces Saddam's party. That means ours, as well as France's and Russia's, meaning they stand to lose a LOT of money (thus explaining their resistance). The new government could tell us to piss off and we'd be worse off in terms of oil than we are now.

 

Don't be concerned about winning the war. Be concerned about winning the peace.

[Guest SP-1]

I'm at a point now with the war that I just want it to be over and done with, whatever happens. I want to go on, find a gal, have a few kids and meet my destiny well (all within the realm of my faith).

 

All this waiting around somehow doesn't really ease my nerves much.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

Of course this is about oil.

 

France, Germany, China and Russia all get their oil from Iraq...

 

(BTW: John., I happily voted for Bush in '00, will probably vote for him in '04, and I laughed at your latest offering)...

[Guest Johnson1620]

First off, Johnson, I'm so damn glad you're around to tell us these things.

 

If you're going to say the war is all about oil and then say it's not, I'm going to say you either have some serious dissonance or you're just trying not to realize that you've managed to make yourself look like a serious backpedaler.

 

Second, what's this war about? Honestly? Really? People won't believe you. Swear on it. It's about WMD. Really. If American soldiers, who incidentally sign up to go and fight and maybe die, go to Iraq, whip Hussien and clear out the aresenal, that means that NONsoldiers in this country won't have to deal with that same arsenal in the future.

 

Will that prevent any sort of attack? Hell no. Will it cut into a readily availible supply of weaponry? You'd better believe it.

 

Now, if you're upset or offended, go sit in the corner and think about this. You're getting stuck on this damn oil bias and making Dubya redneck/oil deadend arguments. At least Marvin put some effort into his.

Dude, I won't repeat myself. So go back and read what I have already said.

 

If you were just trying to bitch me out then it worked, but that wasn't what I said at all.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

(doesn't agree with Johnson)

 

(waits for whiny response)

 

(prays for banning)