Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 http://www.drudgereport.com/cbs.htm Top CBS executives are deeply concerned that Sunday night's GRAMMY Awards may turn from a celebration of music -- into a giant anti-war political rally, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. The GRAMMY broadcast, which is set to air live from New York City, will feature performances by Eminem, Sheryl Crow, Springsteen, Coldplay, James Taylor and others. Word has reached network suites how one star is allegedly planning a dramatic anti-war gesture. "I would hope the artists will remember they are on stage because of their music," a top CBS source told the DRUDGE REPORT Friday morning. MORE During this week's BRITS award show, Coldplay's Chris Martin yelled out to the audience: "We are all going to die when George Bush has his way. But at least we are going to go out with a bang." The CBS executive warned microphones may be unplugged on Sunday night if live performances turn political. "It, of course, is a final option [to cut the microphone.] But it's a very real option," said the top source, who demanded anonymity. "There is a time for political commentary, this is not one of them!" Developing... http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main....22/ixworld.html CBS may be worrying about the reunion of Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel for the first time in a decade. They are hoping to fit in a one-off performance of The Sound of Silence, their Vietnam War-era ballad about the inability of people to communicate with each other, when they receive a lifetime achievement award. The most successful folk-rock duo of the 1960s split up more than three decades ago after Garfunkel refused to play second fiddle to his "control freak" partner. Now, both aged 61, they have rehearsed the song, with its opening line "Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again" for the ceremony. First CNN omitting parts of the Blix report regarding Iraqi cooperation, then no "Remember the children, say no to war" statements? Wow, that darn liberally-slanted media strikes again, I say.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 The network execs are worried about $, not politics. This isn't a liberal media issue. I think the artists should say whatever they want -- I need a good laugh. If the execs doesn't want someone to speak out against the war, they shouldn't invite them (of course, then all we'd have is Toby Keith performing). Otherwise, it's fair game...
Guest JMA Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I think the artists should say whatever they want -- I need a good laugh. Why would it make you laugh? I don't find the potential war funny at all.
cawthon777 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I think the artists should say whatever they want -- I need a good laugh. Why would it make you laugh? I don't find the potential war funny at all. It's not the war that I would laugh at - it's the idiotic statements by these artists that live in a fantasy world where they see America as the big bad. Sean Penn, Madonna, and Sheryl Crow don't know good foreign policy from their overpriced lunch. Using the claim that war will kill thousands of innocents to keep America out of Iraq is recidulous. Guess how many thousands upon thousands will die if we don't do something? Apparently it's okay for a tyrant to kill his people as long as America doesn't kill a few of those people by accident while leading the others to safety.
Guest JMA Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I find it odd that celebs who bash Bush are bashed but they aren't bashed if they support Bush. Seems kind of hypocritical.
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I think it's more b/c they don't seem to be sharing a brain with all the other celebrities. And the Bush supporters tend to not say anything thus they don't sound like morons so you can't slam them as much.
cawthon777 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I find it odd that celebs who bash Bush are bashed but they aren't bashed if they support Bush. Seems kind of hypocritical. Well Republicans in Hollywood are about as easy to find as bigfoot. There's Arnold, there's Freddie Prinze Jr. ... and ... ?
Guest Some Guy Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Bruce Willis, Charlton Heston (too bad about his uhh. memory disease that I can't spell ), and THE ROCK, he said so on Larry King. He really is "The Great One." I see absolutely no problem with the Grammy Awards wanting to stay apolitical. As long as they don't have anybody taking a stance there's no problem. Free Speech doesn't aplly to a private award show. They are free to tell people what they can't say. It's inapropriate to make politcal statements at a silly award show anyway and it is disrepectful to intentionally disprupt one with a "dramatic anti-war gesture." EDIT: Fixed the bold command.
Guest Kotzenjunge Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I hope they all try to do it anyway. I'm sick of this celebrities = worthless as far as opinons go attitude. I mean, they're registered voters just like us, and it isn't like they feel their opinion is actually worth more, they just have the means to get it out. But Dreamer did make a good point, that being that any time a celebrity takes a right-wing stance, no one (here, at least) has a problem with it.
Guest EricMM Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I think if the want to get on a soap box they should do it through songs they perform. Who's performing at this year's grammys?
Guest Some Guy Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 But Dreamer did make a good point, that being that any time a celebrity takes a right-wing stance, no one (here, at least) has a problem with it. Check the Garofolo (sp?) thread again and read my first few posts.
cawthon777 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Bruce Willis, Charlton Heston (too bad about his uhh. memory disease that I can't spell ), and [/b]THE ROCK[/b], he said so on Larry King. He really is "The Great One." Can't forget Heston's NRA replacement - Magnum PI (or Tom Selleck if you want to call him that). As far as "if they were leaning on the right, you guys wouldn't call them stupid celebrities for speaking their mind" - well I have no problem with someone speaking their mind. I do, however, have a problem with celebrities like Barbara Streisand that - rather than protest or offer well-thought alternatives - preach anti-Republicanism, anti-Bush, and anti-war like each one was a creation of the Devil.
Guest cartman Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 And the Bush supporters tend to not say anything thus they don't sound like morons so you can't slam them as much. They don't say anything because there arent really that many Bush supporters to begin with. What's his approval rating in this country right now? 57%? C'mon.
Guest bob_barron Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Norm Macdonald (aka God) is also a republican. He went to one of the inauguration parties. SNL writer James Downey is also a republican.
Guest cartman Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 OOOH! Don't bring out the big guns!
cawthon777 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I know Dennis Miller is a big Bush fan. Miller > Garaffalo
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 "Why would it make you laugh? I don't find the potential war funny at all." "It's not the war that I would laugh at - it's the idiotic statements by these artists that live in a fantasy world where they see America as the big bad." Thanks Caw -- saves me the trouble of typing it out. Also, because I always laugh when celebs -- complete with little red ribbons and sh*t -- like Sheryl Crow come on TV, get on their little soapbox and tell people what to think. They have their freedom of speech, and I have mine. On a semi-related topic, I remember during Campaign '00 the Bush camp used some songs at political rallies that the artists didn't want them using *Tom Petty, John Mellencamp (sp?)* and I sided w/ the artists. If they own the rights to their songs, I feel it's their freedom of speech to not allow someone that they disagree with politically to use their music...
Guest Spicy McHaggis Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Republican or conservative celebs are tolerated more for a number of reasons: 1. They rarely speak out, so when they do, it carries more weight and is a refreshing break from the Hollywood monotony. 2. They are respected for having the balls to stick with their stances despite Hollywood's fierce anti-conservative position. 3. They usually make more sense. And it's easy, when compared to the "Shakespeare" quoting Streisand. Or Sheryl "the-secret-is-to-not-have-enemies" Crow.
Guest cartman Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I know Dennis Miller is a big Bush fan. Ummm...No.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I know Dennis Miller is a big Bush fan. Ummm...No. Whaaa?
Guest Mystery Eskimo Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Can't forget Heston's NRA replacement - Magnum PI (or Tom Selleck if you want to call him that). Aww crap, really? I always liked him. Oh well.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Don't worry, I doubt he'll be speaking at the 2004 RNC...
cawthon777 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Can't forget Heston's NRA replacement - Magnum PI (or Tom Selleck if you want to call him that). Aww crap, really? I always liked him. Oh well. Eh, the NRA has been publically raped by the media moreso than pro wrestling - with less reasoning behind it. "We have a military. We don't need the crazies with AK-47s running around too." Now when has that ever happened?
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I think Sylvester Stallone is a Republican. Kurt Russell is a libertarian. He got heat from Animal Right's Group for holding a charity hunting event.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 I thought Selleck was more of an independent now (an independent who likes guns, mind you) -- at least that's what I heard some time back. Oh, and that guy from Unsolved Mysteries is on the independent/Republican line as well, as is that chick from “Everybody loves Raymond” Patricia Heaton. Can't forget Gary Oldman or Nugent, and Sir Charles is an independent/Republican -- I wish he'd run for Alabama governor. I might move down there just to vote for him...
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 Karl Malone is a Republican. Jamir Jagr had a picture of Ronald Reagan growing up in Czechoslovakia. He also wears #68 in honor the 1968 uprising against the Soviets. Alot of pro athletes are Republicans. It's almost the complete opposite of Hollywood.
Guest TheMikeSC Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 I hope they all try to do it anyway. I'm sick of this celebrities = worthless as far as opinons go attitude. I mean, they're registered voters just like us, and it isn't like they feel their opinion is actually worth more, they just have the means to get it out. But Dreamer did make a good point, that being that any time a celebrity takes a right-wing stance, no one (here, at least) has a problem with it. So, whenever celebs use their fame to make right-wing statements, nobody here has a problem? Umm, how often does THAT happen? I mean, Heston will do it about guns --- but how many celebs ever launch into conservative diatribes that rival the mindless pap of Sean Penn
Guest TheMikeSC Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 And the Bush supporters tend to not say anything thus they don't sound like morons so you can't slam them as much. They don't say anything because there arent really that many Bush supporters to begin with. What's his approval rating in this country right now? 57%? C'mon. Of course, Clinton hit 57% HOW often in 8 years? Bush supporters don't need to promote the guy as a good President. We have 8 years to compare him to. -=Mike --- who wonders why the '90's aren't called the decade of greed
Guest TheMikeSC Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 Don't forget James Woods. He's surprisingly conservative. Absolutely obliterated some putz from "The Shield" on Hannity's show a few weeks back. -=Mike --- who learned the hard way why it's bad to date a druggie
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 Of course, Clinton hit 57% HOW often in 8 years? Source That was while the Monica scandal was still allegations and no admission had been made. Then after the impeachment vote.... http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/199...peachment.poll/ In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.
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