Guest MrRant Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Good god. Bill Clinton thinks Bono is a leader "we should follow in the new millennium." The former president praised the lead singer of U2 Friday at a celebrity-packed reception honoring Bono's charitable work, most notably his efforts at promoting awareness of the AIDS epidemic and famine in Africa. Clinton credited the rock star with helping close partisan gaps and getting Congress to pass a bill to provide debt relief for Africa. "He did something I couldn't do: He convinced Jesse Helms (former Republican senator from North Carolina) to be for it," Clinton said, adding: "I love this man because he has a mind and a heart." In accepting the award from the recording industry charity MusiCares, Bono talked about possible U.S. military action against Iraq. "We do not need to make a martyr out of Saddam Hussein," said Bono, a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize last year. "It is not as simple as war or no war. These are complex problems, and we need complex solutions." Besides Clinton, others feting Bono were New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, singer David Bowie and actor Robert De Niro. Gwen Stefani, Mary J. Blige, B.B. King, Jimmy Fallon and Wynonna Judd were among those performing at the event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I wish that Clinton would follow SONNY Bono's example and go skiing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I wish Clinton was still president of the USA... at least we would have someone know what to do... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Compared to Clinton, Bono's a regular Abe Lincoln. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I wish Clinton was still president of the USA... at least we would have someone know what to do... You know, for such an intelligent man, Clinton was a total putz. -=Mike --- And Clinton didn't make any decisions, he just went with the polls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Good for Bono, although I'm not sure what an endorsement from Bill Clinton is worth. Might be enough to pay for a candy bar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Compared to Clinton, Bono's a regular Abe Lincoln. Compared to Clinton, Koko the Gorilla is a Rhodes scholar. Compared to Clinton, Caligula was chaste. Compared ... These are a bit too easy. -=Mike --- Clinton --- Who combined the competence of Carter and Ford with the dignity of Nixon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Bush Sr. has said some pretty crazy stuff too in the past few years, but since he's an ex-Prez and everything it's not really important and nobody ought to care. Funny how that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Bush Sr. has said some pretty crazy stuff too in the past few years, but since he's an ex-Prez and everything it's not really important and nobody ought to care. Funny how that works. Can you elaborate on that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I wish Clinton was still president of the USA... at least we would have someone know what to do... Sure, he could ignore Iraq for another 8 years. "Nope, I don't see any problems ... I'm a good president ... people like me ... can I grab your boobs?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Can you elaborate on that? The guy was blown away by a supermarket scanner some years ago. I think that's pretty sad, but he's an old ex-president now, and we must mind our manners and not care because he's served his term. Meanwhile, Clinton's dog getting run over sparks jokes from Republicans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 24, 2003 But isn't going with the polls a good thing? I mean, the people are the driving force in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted February 24, 2003 "The guy was blown away by a supermarket scanner some years ago. He was a politician for so many years -- they all become amazed by everyday devices we take for granted. "Meanwhile, Clinton's dog getting run over sparks jokes from Republicans." I'm sure there's a Chelsea joke in there, BUT I'M NOT TOUCHING IT!!! "But isn't going with the polls a good thing? I mean, the people are the driving force in this country." But not 1,000 randomly selected people that are asked several questions over the phone. I would have loved to have had this much media coverage around during the civil-rights era. George Wallace: See? We shouldn't have integrated schools -- we took a poll that says 70 percent of those surveyed don't want them. "I wish that Clinton would follow SONNY Bono's example and go skiing." Reminds me of this one joke I heard: Clinton meets the ghosts of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. He asks the three what he can do to be a better president. Washington: Tell the truth. Jefferson: Tell the truth. Lincoln: Go to the theater... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 24, 2003 Lincoln Rocks GH Bush being blown away by a scanner is not a big deal. If Carter's contribution would be not understanding how e-mail works people won't have a problem with the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted February 25, 2003 But isn't going with the polls a good thing? I mean, the people are the driving force in this country. A President should have SOME beliefs of his own. Doing the right thing isn't always the popular decision. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 25, 2003 A President should have SOME beliefs of his own. Doing the right thing isn't always the popular decision. -=Mike Who says he didn't? He did what was right for America, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Then you imply, correctly I might add, that he had no personal integrity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Then you imply, correctly I might add, that he had no personal integrity. What? I never implied that. He had plenty of personal integrity. I think a President's first duty should be to do the right thing for America, not what he or she thinks is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Dead wrong. A good President has his own beliefs and the integrity to stick with them. If the people agree with him, he will be elected to make decisions. That's how representative democracy works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Dead wrong. A good President has his own beliefs and the integrity to stick with them. If the people agree with him, he will be elected to make decisions. That's how representative democracy works. He did have his own beliefs. He just did what was best for America. He listened to people and represented them as President should. He was with them, rather than above him (like some other Presidents). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Doing the right thing isn't always the popular decision. Maybe, but doing the popular thing is always the right decision. That is what they're elected for, after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Can you elaborate on that? The guy was blown away by a supermarket scanner some years ago. I think that's pretty sad, but he's an old ex-president now, and we must mind our manners and not care because he's served his term. Ok, Geroge H.W. Bush was VP from 1981 to 1989 and president from 89-93 and before that he was head of the CIA. Do you suppose that at some point during his Vice and Presidential terms they devleoped the scanner system? Do you know what the Secret Service would have to do to a Supermarket inorder for the VP or President to go into one? If you were unable to go to a Supermarket for at least 12 years don't you think you might have missed out on that one too? I really wish you guys would starting thinking before you throw out mindless insults. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Doing the right thing isn't always the popular decision. Maybe, but doing the popular thing is always the right decision. That is what they're elected for, after all. Huh? Isn't that a direct contradiction in terms ? I mean, if it is sometimes right not to follow the popular thing, doesn't that imply that the popular thing is wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Sometimes it is. The popular vote could want to reinstate slavery or kill all the Arabs. Don't you think that those things are wrong and the President, the leader of the country should do what's right instances similar, rather than follow popular opinion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Hell... why have a president? If we can marry people on a TV show by calling in and voting then that is what we should do with policy decisions as well I say. Screw the fact that the president probably knows more than your pathetic ass does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Hell... why have a president? If we can marry people on a TV show by calling in and voting then that is what we should do with policy decisions as well I say. Screw the fact that the president probably knows more than your pathetic ass does. *Votes for the Invasion of France via his dormroom phone.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted February 26, 2003 * Votes to invade France as well.... but selects option B - to set it on fire from the air first.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I always said Bono should be world leader. Bono is an Irish hero, and all would listen to him. I think Bono should slap Robert Mugabe. And then slap Thado Mbeki. Its a crying shame Africa is run by tossers. Bono can save Africa first, and then the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I always said Bono should be world leader. Bono is an Irish hero, and all would listen to him. I think Bono should slap Robert Mugabe. And then slap Thado Mbeki. Its a crying shame Africa is run by tossers. Bono can save Africa first, and then the world. I think he would make an awesome super hero, laying waste to evil leaders and spreading food, the cure for AIDS, and goodwill all over the world. He'd be like Super Grover ... but with shades and a good singing voice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Doing the right thing isn't always the popular decision. Maybe, but doing the popular thing is always the right decision. That is what they're elected for, after all. That's not true at all. To steal a little something from Socrates, the good and the pleasurable are not the same. The pleasurable (or in this case, the popular decision) might be nice to have or good in the short term, but that doesn't mean it will be beneficial. In fact, it could be the worst thing to do. It's up to Bush to decide what the good thing to do is - the thing we need rather than the thing we want. They're elected for their ideas, which do not coincide with those of every other American. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites