Saddam challenges Bush to televised debate

[Guest cartman]

I thought it was more like 600 on his SAT's? Didn't he go to Yale also?

 

If there was a God he sure didnt do me any favors putting me on Earth during these times...But of course there isnt.

 

I dont "Believe in the words of Saddam" at all I just dont believe in the words of the President(and I use that term very loosely) of this country either, especially since majority of his words arent even HIS words.

 

This war is a joke, what happened to hunting down and killing Bin Laden? Wasnt THAT our priority? Did THAT ever happen yet?

 

Don't you people think that we have the technology to find a cave dweller like Bin Laden by now? I mean they can read the fine print of a newspaper that some guy on Wall Street is reading in the streets from fucking SPACE...but we cant find this guy? Do we even want to anymore? No...because he did his job, getting something devestating done and eventually having it linked to Iraq so we could go back down there and have another Bush/Saddam Cock waving festival over money and religious beliefs. Bullshit.

[Guest cartman]

You'd rather believe in whoever told you to hate Bush and all things Republican. Who was that anyways?

Actually I agree with some things Republicans want to do, like abolishing Affirmative Action and Welfare for one.

 

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

[Guest Powerplay]

You'd rather believe in whoever told you to hate Bush and all things Republican.  Who was that anyways?

Actually I agree with some things Republicans want to do, like abolishing Affirmative Action and Welfare for one.

 

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

These were people convicted of crimes in the Texas State Court System. And I would tarry a guess at Murder being most of the crimes. It's not as if he busted into their house with a submachine gun, blazed the people in their beds, and burnt the home to the ground.

[Guest LooseCannon]

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

umm...Mao? Stalin?

 

Is there not a difference between an execution where the executed has been afforded due process and one that does not?

 

I think so.

[Guest cartman]

You'd rather believe in whoever told you to hate Bush and all things Republican.  Who was that anyways?

Actually I agree with some things Republicans want to do, like abolishing Affirmative Action and Welfare for one.

 

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

These were people convicted of crimes in the Texas State Court System. And I would tarry a guess at Murder being most of the crimes. It's not as if he busted into their house with a submachine gun, blazed the people in their beds, and burnt the home to the ground.

Must be ALOT of bad boys in Texas though. I didnt say HE killed them, just a nice coincidence I like to point out that's all.

[Guest Powerplay]

You'd rather believe in whoever told you to hate Bush and all things Republican.  Who was that anyways?

Actually I agree with some things Republicans want to do, like abolishing Affirmative Action and Welfare for one.

 

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

These were people convicted of crimes in the Texas State Court System. And I would tarry a guess at Murder being most of the crimes. It's not as if he busted into their house with a submachine gun, blazed the people in their beds, and burnt the home to the ground.

Must be ALOT of bad boys in Texas though. I didnt say HE killed them, just a nice coincidence I like to point out that's all.

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They still have the death penalty. There are just as many murderers if not more in other states, just Texas tends to take harsher action towards it. And, to ask, do you know how many people were executed in Texas before and after he was in office? I mean, Texas has been pro-Capital Punishment for a long long time.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

I'm not a Saddam supporter AT ALL, i'm just saying he and Bush are not all that different. I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty? Sans Hitler of course, he was just sick.

...and the award for WORST anti-Bush remark ever goes to......*opens envelope* *drumroll*......cartman2092! *music plays* Congratulaions! You can make an acceptance speech, although, keep in mind that all "War for Oil" remarks have been used already.......

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that Bush is pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

If there was a God he sure didnt do me any favors putting me on Earth during these times...But of course there isnt.

 

I dont "Believe in the words of Saddam" at all I just dont believe in the words of the President(and I use that term very loosely) of this country either, especially since majority of his words arent even HIS words.

 

This war is a joke, what happened to hunting down and killing Bin Laden? Wasnt THAT our priority? Did THAT ever happen yet?

 

Don't you people think that we have the technology to find a cave dweller like Bin Laden by now? I mean they can read the fine print of a newspaper that some guy on Wall Street is reading in the streets from fucking SPACE...but we cant find this guy? Do we even want to anymore? No...because he did his job, getting something devestating done and eventually having it linked to Iraq so we could go back down there and have another Bush/Saddam Cock waving festival over money and religious beliefs. Bullshit.

Oh and things where so much better in the past. I know I'd rather live during the time of slavery, or the Civil War. Dieing of curable diseases like measles, and cholera sure beats living in today's world.

 

President's have speechwriters. Bush isn't the first President to use them.

 

The U.S. is capable of doing two things at the same time. Iraq being the main objective doesn't mean they aren't fighting Al Qaeda and other terror groups.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that Bush is pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time.

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that some are pro-choice yet anti-death penalty. But to be honest, I don't care either way.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

I would love to see Bush and Saddam get in the squared circle and fight to the death. I would pay money for that PPV. Of course I would have to be firmly behind Bush.

 

Seriously, I think that this is just a ploy by Saddam. I think that he relizes that his time is comming to end. So he is trying to buy as much time as possible.

[Guest EricMM]

you know I spent almost 15 minutes writing that bit at the end of page 2. I wish someone would quote me ...

 

I guess I was right on all counts

[Guest Olympic Slam]

you know I spent almost 15 minutes writing that bit at the end of page 2. I wish someone would quote me ...

 

I guess I was right on all counts

Awesome post, I at least appreciated the effort. But Nader?? There has to be a better outlet for your enviromentalist thinking. Those greens I tell yah are nothing more than a front for the reds if you know what I mean.

[Guest Downhome]

Seeing how I almost never contribute to this forum, other than started discussions, I'll say this...

 

...I truly feel had Nader got VADER to be his campign manager, he would have won.

 

IT'S TIME, IT'S TIME, IT'S NADER TIME!!!!!!!

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

I got a 1420 on my SATs, and there is no fucking chance I would have gotten into Harvard.

 

You guys obviously think I'm dumb or something, so if Bush can't even beat me on them... heh heh heh.

[Guest Kingpk]

I got a 1420 on my SATs, and there is no fucking chance I would have gotten into Harvard.

Why not? Did you even try to find out?

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Yes, I applied for kicks.

[Guest Kingpk]

Gee, thanks for the sarcasm.

[cawthon777 0]

I dont "Believe in the words of Saddam" at all I just dont believe in the words of the President(and I use that term very loosely) of this country either, especially since majority of his words arent even HIS words.

 

This war is a joke, what happened to hunting down and killing Bin Laden? Wasnt THAT our priority? Did THAT ever happen yet?

 

Don't you people think that we have the technology to find a cave dweller like Bin Laden by now? I mean they can read the fine print of a newspaper that some guy on Wall Street is reading in the streets from fucking SPACE...but we cant find this guy? Do we even want to anymore? No...because he did his job, getting something devestating done and eventually having it linked to Iraq so we could go back down there and have another Bush/Saddam Cock waving festival over money and religious beliefs. Bullshit.

1) As was stated before, President's have speech writers. It's not a new concept. And as far as "reasons to hate Bush", it's pretty trivial.

 

2) See, here's the thing. Bin Laden is a bad guy, sure. And who's to say we didn't kill him already and all these little messages since are fakes? Who's to say we stopped looking?

 

This war, and that's what it is and it began on 9/11, involves more than 1 man against the U.S. If you think anything will change if / when Bin Laden is captured / killed then you are grossly mistaken. Saddam is involved as are thousands upon thousands of terrorists all over the world. We know where Saddam is, we know what he has, and in the wake of 9/11 we know what can happen to us if we don't take preemptive action. Simple as that.

 

As far as our technology, you don't know what we have or how we're using it because that's not exactly unclassified information.

 

So we somehow let Bin Laden blow up NYC so we could go after Saddam? I am now more stupid for reading that.

[Guest HartFan86]

I mean wasnt Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer in hisroty?

Dude...wow. All I can say is you moron level is up to Code Orange after that post.

[Guest Silence]

We do not need to waste words on Saddam. We need to kill him.

[Guest DrTom]

I mean wasnt [sic] Bush leading a State that, during his term, had more executions than any mass muerderer [sic] in hisroty [sic]?

 

Your complete and utter ignorance amazes me. Between your head-in-the-sand brand of stupidity and Dreamer's pathological attempts to say George Bush is an idiot, I don't know which is more pathetic. Actually, I do: yours is. He's not old enough to know better yet.

 

And you'd better find a deuced good source for that claim that we're doing this for the Jews because they own 60% of America, or I'm going to consider that anti-Semitism.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

"I think it's incredibly hypocritical that some are pro-choice yet anti-death penalty. But to be honest, I don't care either way."

 

Beat me to it -- there is one difference.

 

The only thing the unborn did was... nah, I'm not bringing this subject up again...

[Guest Olympic Slam]

We do not need to waste words on Saddam. We need to kill him.

I want to get this "over" as a rally call: "Let's stop the ad-hominem and just start bombin' em'."

[Guest JMA]

Please provide me with an iota of proof of the current intelligence of our president.  I don't CARE about his Highschool grades.  You probably got better grades than me, but I am clearly more intelligent than you.  I know the difference between fact and fiction for one.

 

Gee, I listen to Powerplay and agree to stop talking about Bush. Then YOU drag me back into it. Very well. Clearly more intelligence? You have no way of proving that; I however have facts to point out Bush's faults. If you want to mindlessly flame me, go ahead. If you think I don't know the differance between fact and fiction than you are obviously not as smart as you think.

 

yeah he's ruthless bastard!  Lets support him against our own elected leader (plz don't bring up 2000 election plz) I mean Bush hasn't gassed near ANYONE, yet he's clearly Satan.  And I heard he did coke once.

Bush is better than Sadaam. I don't want Bush to die horribly or anything. I don't even want anything bad to happen to Bush. Yet I would relish the thought of something happening to Sadaam. Despite what you think I don't hate Bush. I just dislike him and don't think he's qualified or smart enough to be President. This is what I believe, not a fact. If you disagree, okay. That's your opinion. It doesn't matter to me.

You know, I earned less than a C average in highschool overall, and I got over 1400 in the SATs.  Clearly I cheated.  I know someone who got a 1600 and a 0.00 GPA in the same quarter.  It's called Highschool.  It doesn't mean ANYTHING.  And even if he was stupid until he was 20, maybe just MAYBE he learned something.  Do you actually feel physical pain when you give Bush any credit at all!?

 

I can't stand this.  You attack people for being right-wing idiots who won't listen to anything the left says, yet you are the most obtuse person this folder has seen since Rob Johnstone left apparently.  He didn't believe in Evolution and you don't believe in ... what?  Bush?  The Republican controlled government?  That maybe just maybe, people like Colin Powell, George Bush, and Condi Rice might actually be trying to protect you from something you claim doesn't exist, something you'd prefer to defend than your own president.

 

I voted for Nader.  I would rather have had McCain than Bush.  I would rather have had Gore than McCain (I think).  I am a liberal democrat verging on green.  Bush has pissed me off far more times than he has impressed me.  But I see that what he is doing is possibly right, probably correct, and definitely a viable solution to a massive problem.  You'd rather believe in whoever told you to hate Bush and all things Republican.  Who was that anyways?

I've given the right credit for good things they've done. I'll provide examples if needed--and I mean that. My favorite President (and the greatest President, IMO) WAS a Republican. Not only that, he started the GOP. I have ALWAYS tried to show people the differance between conservative and Republican--and I will provide examples on this as well. I can't believe you're trying to villainize me for things I haven't done. I've don't group Republicans and conservatives into the same group.

 

I don't jump to defend what a left-winger says. But I suppose you'll quote this and try to disprove me. Fine, go ahead. But I'm confident because I know I haven't done the things you've said--and can prove it with quotes from this folder.

[Guest JMA]

Like I said, intelligent conservative commentary can be found. Not in her though.

Something I said from the Janeane Garoffolo thread. More to come.

[Guest JMA]

He deserved to get fired. Those kind of comments are unexceptable. Leftist extremists have their problems as well, I won't defend them. While I think liberalism is better than conservativism, I still think there is something better than it. Neither the Right or the Left is infallible in their views. It's like having to choose between Order and Chaos. Without one the other can't exist.

Same thread. Wrote by me.

[Guest Some Guy]

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that Bush is pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time.

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that some are pro-choice yet anti-death penalty. But to be honest, I don't care either way.

It is not hypocritical of either. The issues are very different. One is a punishment for murderers and the other is a way to keep the amout of unwanted children down in our country.

 

The arguments that each side use against each other are contradictory but the issues are too different.

 

My favorite President (and the greatest President, IMO) WAS a Republican. Not only that, he started the GOP.

 

Lincoln didn't start the GOP. He was the first Republican President and brought the party to national exposure but he joined it in its infant stages, he didn't create it. Just pointing that out for you.

 

Dreamer, I've rarely read you sticking up for any Conservatives. The quotes you listed aren't exactly sticking up for anything.

[Guest JMA]

Dreamer, I've rarely read you sticking up for any Conservatives. The quotes you listed aren't exactly sticking up for anything.

Perhaps not "sticking up," but I was at least trying to be fair. I wasn't shilling for the Left or anything. I said what I thought in a non-partisan way. Read them again and you'll see that. I'm clearly not guilty of many of the things Eric accused me of.

[Guest Powerplay]

Dreamer, I've rarely read you sticking up for any Conservatives.  The quotes you listed aren't exactly sticking up for anything.

Perhaps not "sticking up," but I was at least trying to be fair. I wasn't shilling for the Left or anything. I said what I thought in a non-partisan way. Read them again and you'll see that. I'm clearly not guilty of many of the things Eric accused me of.

I would like to see one fair quote towards Bush were you aren't calling him an alchoholic, cheating moron.