Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted February 25, 2003 For those who are ignorant to the fact that the inspectors' "work" is to oversee Iraqi disarmament, not to search out and "prove" possession of WMD: [Adopted as Resolution 1441 at Security Council meeting 4644, 8 November 2002] The Security Council, Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President, Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully, Recognizing the threat Iraq’s non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security, Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area, Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area, Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material, Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998, Deploring the absence, since December 1998, in Iraq of international monitoring, inspection, and verification, as required by relevant resolutions, of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, in spite of the Council’s repeated demands that Iraq provide immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), established in resolution 1284 (1999) as the successor organization to UNSCOM, and the IAEA, and regretting the consequent prolonging of the crisis in the region and the suffering of the Iraqi people, Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq, Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein, Determined to ensure full and immediate compliance by Iraq without conditions or restrictions with its obligations under resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions and recalling that the resolutions of the Council constitute the governing standard of Iraqi compliance, Recalling that the effective operation of UNMOVIC, as the successor organization to the Special Commission, and the IAEA is essential for the implementation of resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions, Noting the letter dated 16 September 2002 from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq addressed to the Secretary-General is a necessary first step toward rectifying Iraq’s continued failure to comply with relevant Council resolutions, Noting further the letter dated 8 October 2002 from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq laying out the practical arrangements, as a follow-up to their meeting in Vienna, that are prerequisites for the resumption of inspections in Iraq by UNMOVIC and the IAEA, and expressing the gravest concern at the continued failure by the Government of Iraq to provide confirmation of the arrangements as laid out in that letter, Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, Kuwait, and the neighbouring States, Commending the Secretary-General and members of the League of Arab States and its Secretary-General for their efforts in this regard, Determined to secure full compliance with its decisions, Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, 1. Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq’s failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991); 2. Decides, while acknowledging paragraph 1 above, to afford Iraq, by this resolution, a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions of the Council; and accordingly decides to set up an enhanced inspection regime with the aim of bringing to full and verified completion the disarmament process established by resolution 687 (1991) and subsequent resolutions of the Council; 3. Decides that, in order to begin to comply with its disarmament obligations, in addition to submitting the required biannual declarations, the Government of Iraq shall provide to UNMOVIC, the IAEA, and the Council, not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution, a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems such as unmanned aerial vehicles and dispersal systems designed for use on aircraft, including any holdings and precise locations of such weapons, components, sub-components, stocks of agents, and related material and equipment, the locations and work of its research, development and production facilities, as well as all other chemical, biological, and nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to weapon production or material; 4. Decides that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq’s obligations and will be reported to the Council for assessment in accordance with paragraphs 11 and 12 below; 5. Decides that Iraq shall provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to any and all, including underground, areas, facilities, buildings, equipment, records, and means of transport which they wish to inspect, as well as immediate, unimpeded, unrestricted, and private access to all officials and other persons whom UNMOVIC or the IAEA wish to interview in the mode or location of UNMOVIC’s or the IAEA’s choice pursuant to any aspect of their mandates; further decides that UNMOVIC and the IAEA may at their discretion conduct interviews inside or outside of Iraq, may facilitate the travel of those interviewed and family members outside of Iraq, and that, at the sole discretion of UNMOVIC and the IAEA, such interviews may occur without the presence of observers from the Iraqi Government; and instructs UNMOVIC and requests the IAEA to resume inspections no later than 45 days following adoption of this resolution and to update the Council 60 days thereafter; 6. Endorses the 8 October 2002 letter from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq, which is annexed hereto, and decides that the contents of the letter shall be binding upon Iraq; 7. Decides further that, in view of the prolonged interruption by Iraq of the presence of UNMOVIC and the IAEA and in order for them to accomplish the tasks set forth in this resolution and all previous relevant resolutions and notwithstanding prior understandings, the Council hereby establishes the following revised or additional authorities, which shall be binding upon Iraq, to facilitate their work in Iraq: – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall determine the composition of their inspection teams and ensure that these teams are composed of the most qualified and experienced experts available; – All UNMOVIC and IAEA personnel shall enjoy the privileges and immunities, corresponding to those of experts on mission, provided in the Convention on Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations and the Agreement on the Privileges and Immunities of the IAEA; – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have unrestricted rights of entry into and out of Iraq, the right to free, unrestricted, and immediate movement to and from inspection sites, and the right to inspect any sites and buildings, including immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to Presidential Sites equal to that at other sites, notwithstanding the provisions of resolution 1154 (1998); – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to be provided by Iraq the names of all personnel currently and formerly associated with Iraq’s chemical, biological, nuclear, and ballistic missile programmes and the associated research, development, and production facilities; – Security of UNMOVIC and IAEA facilities shall be ensured by sufficient United Nations security guards; – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to declare, for the purposes of freezing a site to be inspected, exclusion zones, including surrounding areas and transit corridors, in which Iraq will suspend ground and aerial movement so that nothing is changed in or taken out of a site being inspected; – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the free and unrestricted use and landing of fixed- and rotary-winged aircraft, including manned and unmanned reconnaissance vehicles; – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right at their sole discretion verifiably to remove, destroy, or render harmless all prohibited weapons, subsystems, components, records, materials, and other related items, and the right to impound or close any facilities or equipment for the production thereof; and – UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to free import and use of equipment or materials for inspections and to seize and export any equipment, materials, or documents taken during inspections, without search of UNMOVIC or IAEA personnel or official or personal baggage; 8. Decides further that Iraq shall not take or threaten hostile acts directed against any representative or personnel of the United Nations or the IAEA or of any Member State taking action to uphold any Council resolution; 9. Requests the Secretary-General immediately to notify Iraq of this resolution, which is binding on Iraq; demands that Iraq confirm within seven days of that notification its intention to comply fully with this resolution; and demands further that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally, and actively with UNMOVIC and the IAEA; 10. Requests all Member States to give full support to UNMOVIC and the IAEA in the discharge of their mandates, including by providing any information related to prohibited programmes or other aspects of their mandates, including on Iraqi attempts since 1998 to acquire prohibited items, and by recommending sites to be inspected, persons to be interviewed, conditions of such interviews, and data to be collected, the results of which shall be reported to the Council by UNMOVIC and the IAEA; 11. Directs the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to report immediately to the Council any interference by Iraq with inspection activities, as well as any failure by Iraq to comply with its disarmament obligations, including its obligations regarding inspections under this resolution; 12. Decides to convene immediately upon receipt of a report in accordance with paragraphs 4 or 11 above, in order to consider the situation and the need for full compliance with all of the relevant Council resolutions in order to secure international peace and security; 13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations; 14. Decides to remain seized of the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2003 Oh oh, I want to play France! "I don't see anything that warrants military action. Let's keep inspectors there until July. Oh yeah, I'm a moron." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Iraq didn't destroy the missiles by the March 1st deadline. Well Hans Blix never said March 1st ,2003. So how was Saddam supposed to know he meant this March 1st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted February 26, 2003 You know, I was about to point out how Iraq has broken this Resolution a few times already, but it will just go in one ear and out the other of some people. 13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations; Translation from UNSpeak: We'll force the introduction of yet another Resolution and bicker about it some more while becoming even more irrelevant until the US says "enough" and uses our building as new office space. And yet, when Clinton sent troops to take care of Milosevic, no one said boo about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 That was also a pretty localized conflict, a MUCH different geopolitical climate, and Milosevic was committing genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Yeah, that whole "genocide" thing is often overlooked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Saddam doesn't seem to have a very clean record when it comes to dealing with the Kurdish population in his country, you know. You DO know that he routinely tortures people, right? What if US troops go into Iraq and find mass graves of Kurds and dissenters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 If we do, we do. The point is that it'd be news to us. We KNEW Milosevic was doing it. Also, he must have wiped out about 500,000 Moslem Serbians at final count. Believe me, Milosevic was much worse in the mass-murderer department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 and Milosevic was committing genocide. I do believe the 'g' word has been tied to Saddam a time or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I've never heard that accusation anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I've never heard that accusation anywhere. Kurds much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I've never heard that accusation anywhere. Kurds much? Do you know what genocide IS? Stomping out a rebellious group in your country is one thing, killing them because you've determined there's something wrong with their ethnicity is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Silence Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Bomb Iraq!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Rebellious? Those people just want to be left alone. Where's the rebellious element? If you're referring to the document they submitted about self-determinism, of course. Otherwise, I know spraying VX nerve gas on an ethnic group is a great way to commit genocide... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted February 26, 2003 A mass murderer is a mass murderer. Hussein might not of executed the number of people Milosevic did that doesn't mean he shouldn't be dealt with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I never said he shouldn't be, I was just making the point that no one jumped on Clinton for the Kosovo actions for a reason, and the situations and global environments are drastically different. This is MUCH more complex than the Kosovo ordeal was, and it's a situation which has most of the world opposing military action, which alone makes things much more delicate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 and it's a situation which has most of the world opposing military action, which alone makes things much more delicate. The U.S. has almost 50 countries backing them. I think it's just the very outspoken minority that has people thinking the ENTIRE world is against us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 26, 2003 and it's a situation which has most of the world opposing military action, which alone makes things much more delicate. The U.S. has almost 50 countries backing them. I think it's just the very outspoken minority that has people thinking the ENTIRE world is against us. Does anyone have a list somewhere that could be referenced? I personally, would like to know some of these countries as one of the biggest pushers for the anti-war movement in our dorm seems to think "The Global Community" is united against this war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 and it's a situation which has most of the world opposing military action, which alone makes things much more delicate. The U.S. has almost 50 countries backing them. I think it's just the very outspoken minority that has people thinking the ENTIRE world is against us. Does anyone have a list somewhere that could be referenced? I personally, would like to know some of these countries as one of the biggest pushers for the anti-war movement in our dorm seems to think "The Global Community" is united against this war. Fox News has posted it several times on TV but I've yet to find a copy off the net - not even on their website. From what I can remember: UK Japan Australia Canada all of Europe aside from France, Germany, and Belgium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorin Industries 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 What that list dosen't tell you is the percentage of the population in those countries that oppose the war. I read in the Guardian newspaper here that 70% of the population of Spain and Italy were aginst the war, i'd like to see what the % was for other countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 What that list dosen't tell you is the percentage of the population in those countries that oppose the war. I read in the Guardian newspaper here that 70% of the population of Spain and Italy were aginst the war, i'd like to see what the % was for other countries. Make sure you know who did the poll. Also, other Middle Eastern countries like Kuwait are with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorin Industries 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 It was a Guardian/Gallup poll I believe, if i can find a link i'll post it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 26, 2003 You guys are missing the entire definition of genocide. Sure, they bombed the Kurds, but that isn't the systematic elimination of a race from the face of the earth. Like Kotz said, that's the putting down of a rebellion. I saw a stat that 80% of Britan's population is against the war. Considering they are our most 'staunch ally' in this affair, I wouldn't be shocked in the least if most of our other supporting countries have similar stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 I saw a stat that 80% of Britan's population is against the war. Considering they are our most 'staunch ally' in this affair, I wouldn't be shocked in the least if most of our other supporting countries have similar stats. Tony Blair is our most staunch ally. The reason we haven't gone to war already is because the U.S. is trying to help the UK out from a diplomatic standpoint in return for coming to our aid. As I said previously in a different thread, leaders sometimes have to do what is best for the country and if that means making controversial calls and having their popularity slide as a result - then that's what they'll do. I admire Tony Blair for sticking to his convictions as Bush has done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Okay, 50 countries support us, but you neglected to mention the 116 that signed a joint statement opposing military action and favoring diplomacy yesterday. Let me guess, they don't count because they're all developing nations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2003 Okay, 50 countries support us, but you neglected to mention the 116 that signed a joint statement opposing military action and favoring diplomacy yesterday. Let me guess, they don't count because they're all developing nations? Well, let's see. We're the only super power in the world today. Britain is a distant second. Then everyone else. From my perspective, most of the countries that are actually productive are with us - so no, these others don't count so much. Have to paraphrase Dennis Miller from last night's Leno. "We're the world's only super power. We're hated and loved by everyone. We might as well be Frank Sinatra. But let me tell you this, Sinatra didn't get where he was by listening to some schmo who couldn't even get in the club." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites