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Undertaker request to feud with Albert

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Guest Slingshot Suplex

Maybe Taker doesn't want to drop his undefeated string to a guy who hasn't earned shit yet and might not even be in the company 6 months from now.

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Guest Trivia247

Albert is a better 11-0 match for Taker than Nathan is

 

the WWE is wanting to Bank on Jones as the next big Monster Squash machine and they can't debut feud him with Taker not at WM time.

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Guest Banky

Undertaker is an ass. He has buried Palumbo and O'Haire as well as the other guys listed. He brought in Kronik, then refused to sell for them.

 

And what about Unforgiven last year? How the ending was totally ruined because he didn't want to give Lesnar too much? "I'm not feelin' it" was his exact words.

 

The Undertaker is just as bad as Triple H. Problem is: he is a worse worker. Everyone wants him to return to his old school gimmick but the Undertaker won't because he is going through a midlife crisis. Anyone who says his match with the Big Show was anything remotely close to watchable is fucked up. And anyone who says Albert has talent needs a stiff shot to the nuts. I'd rather watch a 24 hour marathon of Scott Steiner in the year 2000 than one ATrain match. Bay GOD!

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Guest Just call me Dan

Especially in his recent form, Taker will be around a while. He's in incredible shape, and ,agree with me or not, he seems to have been working pretty hard since his last title run.

 

Taker put over Brock clean in his own match and it really helped Brock's career. Brock is seemingly unstoppable now and it is a true turnaround from the days when RVD was kicking his ass. You may not like his monster status, hell I don't, but The Undertaker did just as much as The Rock as far as creating what Lesnar is right now.

 

His undefeated Wrestlemania streak is the building blocks for someone to get put over mega-huge. Someone will beat him one day, and that guy will be a big star.

 

I think we can all agree that Jones should not do that, nor is this the time for that to happen. Taker said that Albert is very respectful backstage and he has potential. Albert is another hard worker as of late, and it just sucks that both of these guys are hosses, which leads to a slow and plodding match.

 

I don't care to see this feud, and it isn't enticing whatsoever, but it's not the end of the world. Taker isn't going to be in the big time matches right now, so this is what he does. I'd much rather see him in there , if it has to be another hoss, with a younger and more athletic hoss who actually has some ring presence, than a green sloppy hoss, or a borken down one like Nash.

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Guest Choken One

Yeah but try to convince the rest of those guys that...

 

I really think Albert gets a Bad rap...Not I am not staying he deserves to be a main eventer but You can CLEARLY see alot of effort from Albert and you have to like that in some way...at least he tries to be an entertaining wrestler...unlike some who just go through the motions.

 

In reality, Atrain is being reawarded for being an Good guy backstage "One of the boys", Is that good company policy? Not at all.

 

Here is what really annoyed me...They should've have Atrain-Undertaker at NWO and TBS-Taker at Mania...Not because it would've been a better match, but simply because TBS still has SOME name value, unlike Atrain. So his victory would have been somewhat more significant and would've looked better on Paper.

 

I certaintly don't blame Undertaker for REFUSING to lay down for Nathan Jones at Mania...He can see the writing on the wall that Jones won't be an success and he doesn't want to tarnish his legancy by giving his first defeat at WM to someone that MIGHT not even be around 6 months from now...

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Guest Just call me Dan

All true.

 

It also struck me as odd that Show was the set up man for Albert here, when it was the other way around throught the last few months.

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Guest Trivia247

What I dislike here is that Albert was in better shape to go uppercards when he was Albert not A Train...when they let him wear the fricken Leather pants and the Shirt.

 

the Hairy Giant Animal Steele Look is not the Look of a Main Eventer...not in year 2003.

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Guest buffybeast
And anyone who says Albert has talent needs a stiff shot to the nuts. I'd rather watch a 24 hour marathon of Scott Steiner in the year 2000 than one ATrain match. Bay GOD!

I think *you* need a stiff kick in the head. Steiner is more talented than Albert? Are you sniffing rubber cement? A-train is not a main eventer. But he's in better wrestling shape than Steiner. At least he works hard and moves well in the ring, unlike Steiner. I don't care if we're talking about Steiner 2000 or 2003. Albert is still a better worker. Steiner has more charisman and better mic skills than Albert, yes.

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Guest Redhawk

Neither Albert or Steiner has that much athletic ability, so you're really splitting hairs by saying one is better than the other or one is a superior worker. But I think the fact that Albert just looks nasty drops him below Steiner. A big part of wrestling is still presentation, and Steiner, Nathan Jones and pretty much anyone on the roster looks better than Albert. If they gave him a shirt or shaved him I wouldn't care if he fought Taker or not.

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Guest Choken One

Redhawk is right...Albert is down right repulsive with his small package and Hairy body that really doesn't need to be seen.

 

He looked MUCH better and more LEGIT badass with the Leather Pants and Tight Black tank...

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Guest Anglesault
Steiner has more charisman and better mic skills than Albert, yes.

You do realize what you just said, right?

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Guest Smell the ratings!!!
Maybe Taker doesn't want to drop his undefeated string to a guy who hasn't earned shit yet and might not even be in the company 6 months from now.

Are you talking about Show, Jones, or Albert there?

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Guest Choken One
Steiner has more charisman and  better mic skills than Albert, yes.

You do realize what you just said, right?

Let's be real here...Of course Steiner has More Charisma and DOES have decent Memphis Heel mic skills...

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Guest buffybeast
Redhawk is right...Albert is down right repulsive with his small package and Hairy body that really doesn't need to be seen.

 

He looked MUCH better and more LEGIT badass with the Leather Pants and Tight Black tank...

I like him in either the tight leather pants or buck nekkid. I don't think he's repulsive. He's sexy.

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Guest Trivia247

Steiner is a whole nother bag of Crap.

 

He is able to be in the Main Event scene because of Tenure, Long years in NWA/WCW WWF and Japan.

 

His skills are far more declined than any other older wrestler of his age.

 

When he could do Screwdrivers, Frankensteiners and Crisp Tiger Drivers and Belly to belly suplexes

 

He now only can Belly to belly so Spotty you can just tell when he's gonna do it, Tiger Drivers that he can't seem to hold on and turn into Ganso bombs real easy.

 

But besides all that he is far more talented, skilled, at least past experience wise, and has more charisma than Albert, A Train whatever the fuck they call that Yahoo these days.

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Guest jester

Jones is not looking promising in the ring. However, WWE has taken a lot of expense to bring him in with the video packages and hype, and their plans for him had to be rearranged because one wrestler doesn't want to work with him, and presumably, doesn't want put him over.

 

Is that right? If it were Benoit we were talking about, people would be screaming for Taker's head.

 

See, on the one hand I can see why Taker is saying "I ain't jobbing and ending my WM streak for this loser." But if that is what Taker thinks, and WWE respects what he says enough to change the plans on his say so, then why the fuck bring Jones aboard in the first place?

 

 

edit: changed line to "doesn't want to put him over"

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Guest Redhawk
Jones is not looking promising in the ring. However, WWE has taken a lot of expense to bring him in with the video packages and hype, and their plans for him had to be rearranged because one wrestler doesn't want to work with him, and presumably, put him over.

They haven't seemed to have a problem dropping Sean O'Haire. Heck, they went through the trouble of giving D'Lo a new gimmick and turn a ref into a manager, just to drop him two weeks later.

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Guest Nanks
Jones is not looking promising in the ring. However, WWE has taken a lot of expense to bring him in with the video packages and hype, and their plans for him had to be rearranged because one wrestler doesn't want to work with him, and presumably, put him over.

 

Since when's someone not looking promising in the ring stopped them putting someone over?!

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Guest jester
Since when's someone not looking promising in the ring stopped them putting someone over?!

Well, Taker doesn't want to play ball for someone reason. I don't think it's because he fears Jones' astonishing work rate.

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Guest jester
They haven't seemed to have a problem dropping Sean O'Haire. Heck, they went through the trouble of giving D'Lo a new gimmick and turn a ref into a manager, just to drop him two weeks later.

And that's not right either. If they didn't want to use either of those guys, fine. Cut them, fire them, whatever.

 

But to keep them on contract doing nothing, then give them a half hearted push and decide five seconds later it's not working, that's just craziness.

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Guest DarthLordOfWrestling

WHy would A-train go to Mania. It doesn't make sense. Nathan Jones couldn't make it to Mania. He just came on Smackdown last week. Not even Vince is that dumb. No wait, yes he is.

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Guest DarthLordOfWrestling
And anyone who says Albert has talent needs a stiff shot to the nuts.  I'd rather watch a 24 hour marathon of Scott Steiner in the year 2000 than one ATrain match.  Bay GOD!

I think *you* need a stiff kick in the head. Steiner is more talented than Albert? Are you sniffing rubber cement? A-train is not a main eventer. But he's in better wrestling shape than Steiner. At least he works hard and moves well in the ring, unlike Steiner. I don't care if we're talking about Steiner 2000 or 2003. Albert is still a better worker. Steiner has more charisman and better mic skills than Albert, yes.

I'd rather watch millions of Steiner matches. Albert(A-train) is the worst guy in the buisness right now. He's squashing every superstar that has a lot more talent then him. Albert makes me want to through up every time I see him wrestle :throwup:

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Several WWE Superstars, particularly new guys, have named Taker as one of the guys who always has time for them and is willing to help. None of them have said, however, that he picks and chooses who he gets to go over or any of the rest of that shit.

Yes, he's not God!

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Guest Army Eye

When Albert is just barely a better worker than Scott Steiner, a guy who has severe back injuries and also has DROP FOOT SYNDROME, that tells you all you need to know about Albert.

 

At some point they have to realize that, no matter how friendly he is backstage, he has absolutely nothing to bring to the table. I wish they'd keep him on Velocity or whatever where he can't do any harm. He doesn't belong on WrestleMania and he sure as hell shouldn't have been beating Rey Mysterio in a squash TWICE.

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Guest Hogan Made Wrestling

My guess is, given that Albert vs. Undertaker is on Smackdown next week, we will see Undertaker and Nathan Jones vs. Albert and Big Show at Wrestlemania.

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Guest Your Olympic Hero

they probably would have wanted jones to go over taker at WM, but taker didnt want his streak broken so he pushed off the loss til about backlash

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Guest Redhawk

My guess is that Albert-Taker on Smackdown next week won't actually happen, much like Brock-Angle has been scheduled but hasn't happened a few times already. It will be a "damn setup," as Show and Albert attack Taker before the bell and then Jones saves. Wrestlemania will still be Taker-Albert, with Jones-Show as another singles match.

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Guest saturnmark4life

I think the most likely route if taker/albert is on smackdown is that Jones runs in and attacks taker this time, because he's an unpredictable psycho who doesn't care about allies. Or he keeps saving taker from RIVETING beatdowns for a few weeks before that happens. Or at least that's where it might have gone. I'm not the biggest albert hater, he sucks, yeah, but in T&A he AND test (yes, test) were *starting* to get somewhere when they split them up. He needs an experienced tag partner for now, he's nowhere near ready for a singles push as is evident. From what I've seen, he does have a handful of decent power moves that could be put to use if he had someone to do most of the wrestling, and he might learn a thing or to from that as well. Either way, we all know this match, whether jones or albert or show or (dear god no) ALL of them, cannot amount to anything as the only one with any credibility left to destroy is Jones and its looks as if he's pretty much going to do that for himself. That post was pretty long considering it was mainly about A-Train.

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Guest JMA

Geez, stop calling him "Albert." That's not what he's called anymore. It's a terrible name. A-Train isn't much better; but it is better. I'd say A-Train has more talent than Steiner (in his current condition). I don't think A-Train is a lost cause. Maybe in two more years he'll be ready for a top spot. After all, he's still in his twenties.

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Guest buffybeast
I don't think A-Train is a lost cause. Maybe in two more years he'll be ready for a top spot. After all, he's still in his twenties.

Thank God someone has some sense around this place!!!!!

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