Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 13, 2003 I was going to quit. I really was. I had just got through scrapping a month of hard work and arguing with BPP who compared my character to the Hurricane (Who beat the Rock clean BTW) and some other shit. And I was pissed. I scrapped the plan I had for the feud with AP. I got rid of all the OAOAST shit in my sig. I was done. Then I went back to the real world. I went to my grandfather's house, tried to console him, I took him out for Chinese food. Got a Fortune Cookie. The Fortune Cookie had two fortunes in it, something I'd never heard of. Here's what they said: DON'T BE SET IN YOUR WAYS. CHANGE IS PART OF EXISTENCE TRY AGAIN. TO QUIT MEANS ONLY THAT YOU WERE NEVER COMMITTED TO THE TASK. In short, I'm staying. I'm still scrapping my AP feud totally and going back to the drawing board, and my enthusiasm for my character is shot to all hell, but I'll continue to do my best. Before I forget all of this and move on, I'd like to give a hearty FUCK YOU to everyone who took my ideas, the ideas I took time out of my life, and I used to get away from the shit in my personal life (which I shared with you all) and shit on them. FUCK YOU to everyone who thought "Nah." FUCK YOU who decided that hard work has no value. I've been under a TON of stress lately, (again, I shared that with ALL OF YOU) and maybe it's just anger from what's happened to me recently, but I feel betrayed and I can never get back to where I was again. But I'm still willing to stay, and I'm willing to forget all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Zsasz, you sound eerily similar to how I thought of the OAOAST a few months ago. I'm glad you're not quitting, and I hope we can still feud. I really am not 100% sure about what's going on, so I'll let the mods work things out with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 13, 2003 I'd like to say one thing. Superstar, how could you? You liked my ideas in PM, and BPP tells me you were against them. Why couldn't you say that to my face? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Superstar Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Let me clarify: I liked the FIRST MONTH of the feud, which was actually primarily AP's idea. But 6 months is just TOO long, and you started including everything, and some parts of it (TEAM AGNES?!) weren't workable. Not to mention I did not like the idea of you going over "those guys" at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Let me clarify: I liked the FIRST MONTH of the feud, which was actually primarily AP's idea. But 6 months is just TOO long, and you started including everything, and some parts of it (TEAM AGNES?!) weren't workable. Not to mention I did not like the idea of you going over "those guys" at all. Well, I guess you don't have to worry about 6 months now, huh? Oh and you shouldn't have waited till NOW. I made sure you knew second right after BPP, because I trusted your opinion. YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Superstar Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Ok, well I'm not going to get into an argument. I'm sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Whatever, I'm going to ask to be on IZ, anyway. It's going to be more serious anyway. And you don't have to worry about all my shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 13, 2003 Zsasz, it wasn't that we thought your hard work was useless. It was just that it didn't work. Everyone has things passed up. You're first idea really interfered with other ideas that we chose to do. It would have actually displaced close to ten people from what they had planned to do. (At least two tag teams, Me, Superstar and to a smaller extent, AP-Five months is a long feud, espeically if we are trying to do more on the fly stuff.) The SECOND idea just really doesn't work. We can't have the numer one contender job clean right now. Hell, I'M not going over him, and I'm the champ. We've been building Zack up for almost eight months. A clean job just wasn't in the cards. Right now, you are better suited working on your feud with reject and building up the X (Soon to be whatever) division. Once we split, it will be easier to determine just what you can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted March 13, 2003 once again , i find myself admist in yet another problem zsasz, what happened was simply us trying to let everyone do what they wanted to do... when we first devised your plans with the x division, that got that situation settled and allow ed for other planning whenever youre planning stuff, always include other people and ask them...what happened again was an issue in communication we did better this time though, at least those of us mods did... i wouldnt drop everything, we still need help with that x division, and if youre able to make that worth something, youve done something i couldnt do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 13, 2003 To everyone here, I just wanted to make clear that I am indeed still here, I have already sent my match in for Angle-Mania and *hopefully* that was okay with everyone. I just had to let out some shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted March 13, 2003 We've been building Zack up for almost eight months. A clean job just wasn't in the cards. Zsasz, you need to calm down. You can't seriously expect to beat Zack clean having been here a few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted March 13, 2003 I'd just like to throw my two cents in here, since it does involve me. Having been here for the last year, it should be a known fact that I have no problem putting anyone over. I've done job for everyone ranging from AS to Caboose to Mario and his Monsters. I've never had any problems, despite the ongoing angles I may have been in. I find myself to be very fair when writing, booking and now moderating. I can bring up at least one point where there was to be a match between myself, Eskimo and Angle-Plex, where I was to win the N.A. belt off of Agnes, however I ask that that finish be changed so that AP didn't get screwed over (he had basically just won the belt). And I wrote that match with the purpose of putting both he and Eskimo over. If anyone remembers it, it was quite the long match, with some sick brutal bumps that I think had everyone coming out looking better than they may have. Zsasz, I PM'd you several times yesterday, and I would have appreciated you letting me know that you were going to make a post like this, or we could have even worked things out over PM. I don't want to sound HHHish here, but honestly a clean job before my big opportunity would have been like Shawn Michaels jobbing to Steve Austin before Wrestlemania 12...no matter how talented the newcomer, it wouldn't have looked right. That being said, I offered you a compromise which I would have easily done with you, not jobbing clean put yet putting you over strong and selling both a pre and post match attack from you. You of al people Zsasz should know I'm incredibly easy to work with. Do I hope this problem is solved? You bet I do. Do I want to see anymore? I don't, but sadly reality is is that problems can and do come up. But as I've said before, I don't care if everyone except Mario, Reject and myself walk out...I would still try to maintain this fed as if it were the greatest thing on Earth. I have a lot of fun with all you guys, and I wouldn't have it any other way. On a personal note, Zsasz, I know what you are going through. I realize that you're stressed, and quite frankly you're letting your emotions out and that is fine. Believe me, I have been to that point more times than I'd like to, and no one is holding a grudge against you. I wish you well, and as I've said, you can get a hold of me on PM, AIM, whereever, if you don't feel like sharing things with the board. Come here for a distraction, not for more stress. If you do need to vent, just know that there are people here willing to let you, and to talk things out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 13, 2003 I'm definitely willing to listen, Zsasz. It appears to me that stress probably played a bigger part in this matter than anything else and that's understandable. But I do agree with the decisions made for the reasons Zack stated above. Zack, I'd just like to say that you've gone out of your way to make me look good and I do appreciate that bro. I never expected my contendership match challenge to even be met, but it was, and you wrote one of SP's finest hours, so to speak. I'm glad this one seems to have been resolved without another major shakeup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest caboose Report post Posted March 13, 2003 I'd just like to throw my two cents in here, since it does involve me. Having been here for the last year, it should be a known fact that I have no problem putting anyone over. I've done job for everyone ranging from AS to Caboose to Mario and his Monsters. I've never had any problems, despite the ongoing angles I may have been in. I find myself to be very fair when writing, booking and now moderating. I can bring up at least one point where there was to be a match between myself, Eskimo and Angle-Plex, where I was to win the N.A. belt off of Agnes, however I ask that that finish be changed so that AP didn't get screwed over (he had basically just won the belt). And I wrote that match with the purpose of putting both he and Eskimo over. If anyone remembers it, it was quite the long match, with some sick brutal bumps that I think had everyone coming out looking better than they may have. Zsasz, I PM'd you several times yesterday, and I would have appreciated you letting me know that you were going to make a post like this, or we could have even worked things out over PM. I don't want to sound HHHish here, but honestly a clean job before my big opportunity would have been like Shawn Michaels jobbing to Steve Austin before Wrestlemania 12...no matter how talented the newcomer, it wouldn't have looked right. That being said, I offered you a compromise which I would have easily done with you, not jobbing clean put yet putting you over strong and selling both a pre and post match attack from you. You of al people Zsasz should know I'm incredibly easy to work with. Do I hope this problem is solved? You bet I do. Do I want to see anymore? I don't, but sadly reality is is that problems can and do come up. But as I've said before, I don't care if everyone except Mario, Reject and myself walk out...I would still try to maintain this fed as if it were the greatest thing on Earth. I have a lot of fun with all you guys, and I wouldn't have it any other way. On a personal note, Zsasz, I know what you are going through. I realize that you're stressed, and quite frankly you're letting your emotions out and that is fine. Believe me, I have been to that point more times than I'd like to, and no one is holding a grudge against you. I wish you well, and as I've said, you can get a hold of me on PM, AIM, whereever, if you don't feel like sharing things with the board. Come here for a distraction, not for more stress. If you do need to vent, just know that there are people here willing to let you, and to talk things out. Dammit Zack, your just too nice about things! I don't wanna sound Triple H-ish, but Zsasz had no reason to ask for you to job to him clean. And asking for a six month feud is a bit much. Back in my day we didn't stand for this shit! Either you did what you were asked or you walked! (SEE: CWM/Caboose) Only kidding Zsasz. Sorry to here about your family problems. Stuff like that is tough, but it will make you stronger in the long run. It's part of growing up. Glad you didn't quit the OAOAST, you seem like a nice enough poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 14, 2003 ya shoulda quit. trust me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted March 14, 2003 ya shoulda quit. trust me Aren't you supposed to be gone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Plushy Al Logan Report post Posted March 14, 2003 My opinion: Sometimes some feuds need to be cut short (example: Me vs. anyone). I feel that since we all know each other, feuds should be a max of three months, and we could have multiple feuds (example: I'm currently writing it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted March 14, 2003 I don't think we need a feud limit. Often, we start a feud, and it just works out so that it can go longer then another feud and comes off looking better. i.e. Agnes/BPP to a point, and we all know my other example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites