Guest creativename Report post Posted March 16, 2003 When was the last time they billed Jericho as main event? Whenever he's being used to build up somebody for HHH (e.g. Kane, Steiner). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 16, 2003 At least you don't see Angle cleaning dogshit Wow. Since Angle was cleaning dog shit, it was a ***** feud! I didn't really get that bit of sarcasm, so I'm just going to ignore it. Well, no. No at all. The did the same thing to Angle that they did to Jericho, just different methods. More or less, I agree. But Jericho was look to made out as a pushover, Angle is still a credible champion after all the matches with Benoit and such. When was the last time they billed Jericho as main event? Well take a look at RAW's roster, and he's in the main event when he's not being bogged down with Christian in the tag ranks. He's of main event status there, so I would say that's billing him as main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 By default more than anything else (not knocking his talent, just the booking of him), Jericho is the #2 heel and gets main event time whenever they want to put someone over as a challenger to Trips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 For Anglesault- 7.25- v. Mark Henry (L-DQ) 8.1 v. Hulk Hogan (L-DQ) 8.8- v. John Cena (L-DQ) w/Benoit, Eddy v. Edge, Cena, Rey (L->pinned by Rey) 8.15- v. Mark Henry (W) 8.22 v. Kidman (L-COTR) 8.25- v. Rey Mysterio (W) 8.29- v. Benoit and Taker (L->not involved) 9.5- w/Benoit and Eddy v. Taker, Rikishi, Edge (L->not involved) 9.12- v. Rey (W) 9.19 w/Benoit v. Billy and Chuck (L->not involved) 9.22 v. Benoit (L) 9.29 v. Benoit and Rey (L->not involved) 10.3 v. Edge (L) 10.10- w/Benoit v. Kidman and Cena (W->Benoit crossface) 10.17- w/Benoit v. Los Guerreros (W->Angle slam) 10.20 w/Benoit v. Edge/Rey (W->anklelock) 10.24 v. Benoit (L) 10.31 v. Eddy (L) 11.7 w/Benoit v. Edge/Rey (L->spear by Edge) 11.14 v. Benoit (NC) 11.17 w/Benoit v. Edge/Rey v. Los Guerreros (L->first eliminated) 11.21 v. Eddy (W) 11.28 v. Los Guerros (L->not involved) 12.5 v. Edge, Benoit and Eddy (W->top-rope Angle slam) 12.12 w/Edge v. Big Show and A-Train (L->Big Show chokeslam) 12.15 v. Big Show (W) 12.19 v. Benoit (L-DQ) 1.19 v. Benoit (W) 1.23 v. Rey (W) 2.6 v. Benoit (W) 2.20 v. Brock Lesnar (L-DQ) 2.23 w/Team Angle v. Benoit and Brock (L->not involved) 2.27 v. Brian Kendrick (W) 3.13 v. Brock (W) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Someone did it from Mania in the other thread. It worked out to "floudering midcarder" numbers (17-17-4) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 I can't believe Angle had like 4 straight DQ losses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 I was ranting about that for a good three weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 He seems to avoid doing the job in tag matches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted March 16, 2003 By default more than anything else (not knocking his talent, just the booking of him), Jericho is the #2 heel and gets main event time whenever they want to put someone over as a challenger to Trips. Jericho = Raw's top "Jobber to the Stars." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Yep... and they don't even push him between jobs to make him look credible when a guy like Steiner beats him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 16, 2003 By default more than anything else (not knocking his talent, just the booking of him), Jericho is the #2 heel and gets main event time whenever they want to put someone over as a challenger to Trips. Jericho = Raw's top "Jobber to the Stars." Yup. What would the WWE do if Jericho pulled a Rock though? "I'm not jobbing so that Triple H can look better..." I mean, he was fodder for Steiner which in reality was fodder for Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 By default more than anything else (not knocking his talent, just the booking of him), Jericho is the #2 heel and gets main event time whenever they want to put someone over as a challenger to Trips. Jericho = Raw's top "Jobber to the Stars." Yup. What would the WWE do if Jericho pulled a Rock though? "I'm not jobbing so that Triple H can look better..." I mean, he was fodder for Steiner which in reality was fodder for Hunter. Actually, I think that Jericho would be better off to pull an Al Snow JOB Squad routine. Snow was onto something when he said that the JOB Squad is the most powerful group in wrestling because they're capable of making someone look like shit if they want to, such as by no-selling a finisher and walking to the back like nothing happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 16, 2003 If Jericho took a Pedigree then just got up and left...I would mark big time. He'd be out of a good paying job then though, and that would be very unprofessional. I'd mark for his NWA debut though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Rikishi is the ONE guy on Smackdown (unless Vince counts) that makes me want to turn the channel when he comes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 If Jericho took a Pedigree then just got up and left...I would mark big time. He'd be out of a good paying job then though, and that would be very unprofessional. I'd mark for his NWA debut though! Vince can't afford to let a guy like Jericho go, even if he sees him as a midcarder. Jericho is the only guy capable of making Triple H's opponents seem credible on RAW that is CURRENTLY willing to do it. Rock and Austin refuse to be put in that position and there are few other guys who have the credibility and the wrestling ability to do it convincingly. RVD, if he's motivated, can do it as well as Eddy or Benoit, but all three of them are faces right now and two of them are on Smackdown. I'm not saying that Vince won't screw Jericho over if he does it, he just won't fire him immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Someone did it from Mania in the other thread. It worked out to "floudering midcarder" numbers (17-17-4) Ya I posted it in the other thread but my win/loss stats go back from Wrestlemania X-8 so essentially the last full year. Just for the hell of it here is Rikishi's singles matches breakdown from the past year: March 24 Heat vs. Goldust, wins clean May 16 Smackdown vs. Rico, wins clean May 23 Smackdown vs. Rev. D-Von, loses by interference by Rico June 15 Velocity vs. Albert, wins clean June 20 Smackdown vs. Christian, wins clean, ref missed Christian's leg being on the ropes during the build to the Un-Americans but I'll still call it clean June 27 Smackdown vs. Test, wins by DQ as Test bumped the ref July 4 Smackdown vs. Lance Storm, loses due to interference by Test July 11 Smackdown vs. Test, wins clean July 25 Smackdown vs. Albert, wins clean August 1 Smackdown vs. Rev. D-Von, wins clean August 8 Smackdown vs. Batista, wins due to Rev. D-Von accidently hitting Batista August 15 Smackdwon vs. Brock Lesnar, loses due to distraction by Paul Heyman August 29 Smackdown vs. Eddie Guerrero, wins clean vs. Chris Benoit, loses clean September 12 Smackdown vs. Chris Benoit, loses by DQ as Kurt Angle runs in to take out Benoit, could be considered NC but I'll stick with the loss September 26 Smackdown vs. Chavo Guerrero, wins clean October 10 Smackdown vs. Eddie Guerrero, loses due to use of chair by Eddie October 24 Smackdown vs. Matt Hardy, wins clean October 31 Smackdown vs. Big Show, loses clean November 7 Smackdown vs. John Cena, wins clean November 21 Smackdown vs. John Cena, wins clean November 30 Velocity vs. Redd Dogg, wins clean December 7 Velocity vs. Mike Fox, wins clean December 12 Smackdown vs. B-2, loses due to interference by John Cena December 21 Velocity vs. Andy Anderson, wins clean December 26 Smackdown vs. B-2, wins clean January 2 Smackdown vs. John Cena, loses due to intereference by B-2 January 9 Smackdown vs. Big Show, loses clean January 16 Smackdown vs. Bill DeMott, loses clean January 23 Smackdown vs. Bill DeMott, wins clean January 30 Smackdown vs. Bill DeMott, loses clean February 6 Smackdown vs. Nunzio, wins clean February 13 Smackdown vs. Nunzio, wins by DQ due to interference by the F.B.I., not 100% sure if I'd call this a match February 20 Smackdown vs. Johnny Stamboli, wins clean March 13 Smackdown vs. Chuck Palumbo, wins clean although Los Guerreros stop an F.B.I. run-in I guess it didn't really effect the pin Rikishi was 20-5 in matches that had a "clean" finish. He was 3-7 in matches with a "dusty" finish. Four out of Rikishi's five clean losses came against Big Show & Bill DeMott. The other against Chris Benoit was his second match of that night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted March 16, 2003 The Japanese style has the right idea. You have to sell moves--because they hurt... a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
