Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 So now you also have proof that Bin Laden was behind the WTC attacks? Do share it. Oh my. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 So now you also have proof that Bin Laden was behind the WTC attacks? Do share it. Oh my. Don't teach a pig to sing, it won't work and it annoys the pig... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 I'll take that as a "No". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 He took credt for it. His number three planned it. This has never been a topic of debate. So, in your mind, who did it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 The 19 who carried it out and their domestic financiers. They're the only ones who have proven involvement so far. Bin Laden is still just a suspect, despite what the media has told you to think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Did you miss the part where Bin Laden himself talked about supporting it? On video tape no less, I believe. Wow. I was going to breakdown your replies and counter you but . . . I don't think wasting my time on you would in any way be productive to any discussion here. I refuse to egg you on in spouting this nonsense. You do the 9/11 victims a disservice with this garbage, Ozy. I hope somebody with more patience and time on their hands than I care to waste on you tackles you sooner or later. Keep hanging ourself there buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Did you miss the part where Bin Laden himself talked about supporting it? On video tape no less, I believe. He did so after the fact. That isn't proof. By that time almost everybody in America (yourself included) was convinced he was guilty anyway. So it ain't like he had anything to lose by taking credit for it. He could simply have been doing so to make himself more of a hero to anti-American extremists. I mean, was someone gonna stand up and complain he was taking credit for it because THEY were responsible? Maybe you think this is Iraq or some other harsh Middle Eastern dictatorship that it sounds like you'd enjoy living in, but here in America taking credit for 9/11 doesn't make him a culprit - just a suspect. The fact that there is fuck-all evidence aside from that speaks worlds. Wow. I was going to breakdown your replies and counter you but . . . I don't think wasting my time on you would in any way be productive to any discussion here. I refuse to egg you on in spouting this nonsense. You do the 9/11 victims a disservice with this garbage, Ozy. I hope somebody with more patience and time on their hands than I care to waste on you tackles you sooner or later. Keep hanging ourself there buddy. Translation: "I now realize I've been schooled, and I won't even try to keep up with you anymore, sir. I'm sorry." It's okay boy, I forgive you. Just keep it shut next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Ozy what do you want? Why is it so hard to believe anything your government tells you. You really don't believe that the Taliban supported terrorists including Bin Ladin who were behind the 9/11 incident? You really think that Bush and the Media is lying to you so that Bush can bomb some useless Middle East country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Translation: "I now realize I've been schooled, and I won't even try to keep up with you anymore, sir. I'm sorry." It's okay boy, I forgive you. Just keep it shut next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did. Oh and SP- I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did. Oh and SP- I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point You can go to Liberty Island, you can't go in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did. Oh and SP- I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point You can go to Liberty Island, you can't go in. So you can't climb it anymore? Eh- no loss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Oh, come on, climbing it was't THAT bad. Oh though I did fear for my life on the spiral staircase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 16, 2003 It is- it takes forever and once you get up there you don't really have a great view. I mean- total letdown! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 It's fine if you want to view it that way Bob. Though I fail to see how I'm trying to "save face" when I've made valid points that aren't really disputable and Ozy is the one making absurd claims. I'm not going to sit here and egg him on in this stupid waste of bandwidth if he can't even argue logically or respectfully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Ozy what do you want? Why is it so hard to believe anything your government tells you. Why is it so easy to believe everything your government tells YOU? I don't want anything here, but as long as people feel the need to challenge me I'll respond. You really don't believe that the Taliban supported terrorists including Bin Ladin who were behind the 9/11 incident? I don't believe anyone was involved except the ones who died in it, because no one else has been convicted of it. That is the way America works, ya know.... You really think that Bush and the Media is lying to you so that Bush can bomb some useless Middle East country? It doesn't matter what I believe: it's reality. Accept it or don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 But...WHY would Bush bomb Afghanistan for no reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Oh though I did fear for my life on the spiral staircase. That's the one part I WOULD miss. The center of the symbol of the most advanced nation on Earth is only accessable to us by a clumsy spiral staircase that screams "DEATH!". That was just too cool. And running down it after the disappointment of reaching the top was the best part, IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 So because you believe it and say it's true, it is? Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 But...WHY would Bush bomb Afghanistan for no reason? To appease the anger we all felt, and because such things help a President's popularity. That may sound excessively cynical, but he is CLEARLY not a man (using the word loosely here) who values human life very much if you followed his behavior as Texas Governor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 So because you believe it and say it's true, it is? Wow. You shouldn't "egg me on into wasting precious bandwidth" like that - I might say 7 more things you don't like, but can't dispute sanely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 I've disputed you with common knowledge things, man. If you can't accept that reality, I'm sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Don't start stealing my words. I'm flatered that you've moved onto the "worship" phase of our accquaintance - especially so soon after the "public ass-whooping" phase commenced. But you should still either say something substantive in your own way, or shut the fuck up for good. Playing Ozy Jr. will do ye no good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 . . . right. *leaves thread to concentrate on better things* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Folks, I warned you early in the thread and was no sold. Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US. It's best just to ignore him, because you're never gonna convince him he's wrong, and by bowing out he'll provoke you by claiming he's won. Just IGNORE him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US. Or, as we call it, european. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ozymandias Report post Posted March 16, 2003 No, I'm an American, ME. I just keep in mind that America is a country, and not a fuckin' street gang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US. Yeah, what the hell? He seemed almost giddy when talking about how we lost the Vietnam War. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 16, 2003 Where's a mod when you need one, eh? Sorry, I was out all day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites