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Guest Anglesault
So now you also have proof that Bin Laden was behind the WTC attacks? Do share it.

Oh my.

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Guest Slapnuts00

So now you also have proof that Bin Laden was behind the WTC attacks? Do share it.

Oh my.

Don't teach a pig to sing, it won't work and it annoys the pig...

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Guest Anglesault

He took credt for it. His number three planned it. This has never been a topic of debate.

 

So, in your mind, who did it?

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Guest Ozymandias

The 19 who carried it out and their domestic financiers. They're the only ones who have proven involvement so far.

 

Bin Laden is still just a suspect, despite what the media has told you to think.

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Guest SP-1

Did you miss the part where Bin Laden himself talked about supporting it? On video tape no less, I believe.

 

Wow. I was going to breakdown your replies and counter you but . . . I don't think wasting my time on you would in any way be productive to any discussion here. I refuse to egg you on in spouting this nonsense. You do the 9/11 victims a disservice with this garbage, Ozy. I hope somebody with more patience and time on their hands than I care to waste on you tackles you sooner or later. Keep hanging ourself there buddy.

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Guest Ozymandias
Did you miss the part where Bin Laden himself talked about supporting it?  On video tape no less, I believe.

He did so after the fact. That isn't proof. By that time almost everybody in America (yourself included) was convinced he was guilty anyway. So it ain't like he had anything to lose by taking credit for it. He could simply have been doing so to make himself more of a hero to anti-American extremists. I mean, was someone gonna stand up and complain he was taking credit for it because THEY were responsible?

 

Maybe you think this is Iraq or some other harsh Middle Eastern dictatorship that it sounds like you'd enjoy living in, but here in America taking credit for 9/11 doesn't make him a culprit - just a suspect.

 

The fact that there is fuck-all evidence aside from that speaks worlds.

 

Wow.  I was going to breakdown your replies and counter you but . . . I don't think wasting my time on you would in any way be productive to any discussion here. I refuse to egg you on in spouting this nonsense.  You do the 9/11 victims a disservice with this garbage, Ozy.  I hope somebody with more patience and time on their hands than I care to waste on you tackles you sooner or later.  Keep hanging ourself there buddy.

 

Translation: "I now realize I've been schooled, and I won't even try to keep up with you anymore, sir. I'm sorry."

 

It's okay boy, I forgive you. Just keep it shut next time.

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Guest EricMM

Ozy what do you want? Why is it so hard to believe anything your government tells you. You really don't believe that the Taliban supported terrorists including Bin Ladin who were behind the 9/11 incident? You really think that Bush and the Media is lying to you so that Bush can bomb some useless Middle East country?

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Guest the 1inch punch

Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore

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Guest SP-1
Translation: "I now realize I've been schooled, and I won't even try to keep up with you anymore, sir. I'm sorry."

 

It's okay boy, I forgive you. Just keep it shut next time.

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Guest bob_barron
Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore

I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did.

 

Oh and SP-

I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point

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Guest Anglesault
Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore

I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did.

 

Oh and SP-

I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point

You can go to Liberty Island, you can't go in.

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Guest bob_barron
Just to get back to the whole "The view from the Statue of Liberty sucks" and away from peaceniks like Ozymandias (Go back to France mate), let me just say that when i was in NYC in September, it was closed and they apparantly dont let people in anymore

I don't know if they re-opened it. I thought they did.

 

Oh and SP-

I like you and all but the whole 'I'm not going to respond' stuff makes you look like you're trying to save face. It's better just to argue the point

You can go to Liberty Island, you can't go in.

So you can't climb it anymore? Eh- no loss

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Guest Anglesault

Oh, come on, climbing it was't THAT bad. Oh though I did fear for my life on the spiral staircase.

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Guest bob_barron

It is- it takes forever and once you get up there you don't really have a great view. I mean- total letdown!

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Guest SP-1

It's fine if you want to view it that way Bob. Though I fail to see how I'm trying to "save face" when I've made valid points that aren't really disputable and Ozy is the one making absurd claims. I'm not going to sit here and egg him on in this stupid waste of bandwidth if he can't even argue logically or respectfully.

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Guest Ozymandias
Ozy what do you want?  Why is it so hard to believe anything your government tells you.

Why is it so easy to believe everything your government tells YOU? I don't want anything here, but as long as people feel the need to challenge me I'll respond.

 

You really don't believe that the Taliban supported terrorists including Bin Ladin who were behind the 9/11 incident?

 

I don't believe anyone was involved except the ones who died in it, because no one else has been convicted of it. That is the way America works, ya know....

 

You really think that Bush and the Media is lying to you so that Bush can bomb some useless Middle East country?

 

It doesn't matter what I believe: it's reality. Accept it or don't.

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Guest Ozymandias
Oh though I did fear for my life on the spiral staircase.

That's the one part I WOULD miss. The center of the symbol of the most advanced nation on Earth is only accessable to us by a clumsy spiral staircase that screams "DEATH!". That was just too cool.

 

And running down it after the disappointment of reaching the top was the best part, IMHO.

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Guest Ozymandias
But...WHY would Bush bomb Afghanistan for no reason?

To appease the anger we all felt, and because such things help a President's popularity.

 

That may sound excessively cynical, but he is CLEARLY not a man (using the word loosely here) who values human life very much if you followed his behavior as Texas Governor.

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Guest Ozymandias
So because you believe it and say it's true, it is?

 

Wow.

You shouldn't "egg me on into wasting precious bandwidth" like that - I might say 7 more things you don't like, but can't dispute sanely.

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Guest SP-1

I've disputed you with common knowledge things, man. If you can't accept that reality, I'm sorry.

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Guest Ozymandias

Don't start stealing my words. I'm flatered that you've moved onto the "worship" phase of our accquaintance - especially so soon after the "public ass-whooping" phase commenced. But you should still either say something substantive in your own way, or shut the fuck up for good.

Playing Ozy Jr. will do ye no good.

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Guest Slapnuts00

Folks, I warned you early in the thread and was no sold. Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US. It's best just to ignore him, because you're never gonna convince him he's wrong, and by bowing out he'll provoke you by claiming he's won. Just IGNORE him.

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Guest Mystery Eskimo
Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US.

Or, as we call it, european.

 

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Guest Ozymandias

No, I'm an American, ME. :)

 

I just keep in mind that America is a country, and not a fuckin' street gang.

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Guest Anglesault
Ozzy has proved himself time and time again to be an extremist liberal, incapable of rational thinking and filled with a deep hate for the US.

 

Yeah, what the hell? He seemed almost giddy when talking about how we lost the Vietnam War.

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Guest Kahran Ramsus
Where's a mod when you need one, eh?

 

Sorry, I was out all day.

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