Smackdown spoilers

[Guest teke184]

The main good coming out of this show is a Cena push and Rikishi's fat ass jobbing. Much of the rest looks like crap though... such as putting Rhyno and Benoit in the middle of the Big Slow-ACrap vs. Taker and Jones feud for one.

[Guest NoCalMike]

How old is Hogan's son? Shane McMahon vs. Hogan Jr. to fight for daddy's vengence at WM XX

 

I am an RVD fan, yet I am so NOT-excited about his match, but I think it sucks he won't even officially be part of the WM card. WTF is wrong with Vince?

[Guest Sakura]

I could see them winning the tag titles and then Morley telling them they will defend them at Mania against the Dudleyz.

 

That would actually be cool(especially if they retain). If that doesn't happen well...that's pathetic.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

If that happens then I'll hit the order button.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

I could see them winning the tag titles and then Morley telling them they will defend them at Mania against the Dudleyz.

 

That would actually be cool(especially if they retain). If that doesn't happen well...that's pathetic.

That had better be the plan...because that would be cool, although that would pretty much also mean that Kane/RVD would hold the tag belts for about an hour or 2 at most..talk about transitional champions..

[Bored 0]

This was in the Rajah spoilers and not on these ones:

 

The Storm/Morley vs. RVD/Kane match has been scheduled to take place on Heat and was announced as such tonight.

I'm no fan of RVD and I'll admit it... but even I think the idea of RVD wrestling on HEAT instead of at Mania itself while bastards like Big Show and A-Train get a spot on the card should be a fucking crime

I think I should thrown in the fact that on the pre-PPV Heat's the faces ALWAYS win so its pretty much a lock that RVD and Kane will win the titles so anyone hoping for RVD to get out of the tag ranks well it ain't gonna it happen for now.

 

Oh just a comment on Smackdown I don't really see the logic in closing the show with a post-WM feud. Also I'll believe that Cena beat Rikishi with a michinoku driver when I see it...can't always trust spoiler recaps.

[Guest Sakura]

It would be funny and very heelish if Morley annouced that not only are the Dudleyz the #1 contenders and will get their shot that night, but that it will be Mania's opening match.

 

So they would end heat, go over the card once or whatever, run the WM Intro video package, and then go right into Dudleyz vs. Kane/RVD.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

You know...

 

There are alot of RVD fans...and I assume somewhere someone likes Kane.

 

This is just another bait and switch.

 

If I didn't get UPN(which is quite piossible in some areas) I wouldn't know until Sunday just before the show.

 

If I already purchased and expected to see my favorite wrestler on the biggest show of the year...AS ADVERTISED ON HIS SHOW...and then I saw him on Heat...I'd be pretty pissed off. Now...imagine If I missed Heat and just watched the show.

 

Fuck Vince.

[Guest NoCalMike]

I wish RVD or Kane would turn on one another. ANYTHING to get RVD away from Kane.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

That really wouldn't get him away from Kane...just out of the tag division.

 

Let's face it.

 

Thanks to the HHH feuds...there is no where for anyone to go.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Oh and, how in the fucking world could they leave off a damn TITLE MATCH from WM, yet there is so much other filler garbage. How INSULTING is it to RVD/KANE that they could potentially be WINNING THE FUCKING BELTS on HEAT, while UT/Nothing Jones get to spotlight their CRAPPY workrate on ppv against 2 guys that are just as horrible.

[Guest Space_Cowboy]

I wish RVD or Kane would turn on one another. ANYTHING to get RVD away from Kane.

I'm sure one of them will turn, about 6 months down the road after neither of them have any heat left following thier pointless tag title reign.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Well, I have been a proponent of RVD moving to Smackdown but I dont think that will happen as much as it would rock to see it happen.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

That would be even cooler than having them win and face the Duds on the show...

 

have them lose because RVD turns on Kane's match costing ass then have them wrestle at mania.

 

Of course...RVD would have to job...but then maybe the whole Kane debacle will be gone for good!

[Guest Sakura]

Yeah, it is very insulting and dumb. It's also odd as this isn't really a a thrown together match. There's actually build up. The title match is a rematch(well, sans Regal) from the previous ppv and the Morley/Dudleyz storyline has been going on all year for EVERY SINGLE RAW.

[Guest bravesfan]

That would be even cooler than having them win and face the Duds on the show...

 

have them lose because RVD turns on Kane's match costing ass then have them wrestle at mania.

 

Of course...RVD would have to job...but then maybe the whole Kane debacle will be gone for good!

If RVD turned on Kane, wouldn't RVD then have to FEUD with Kane?

 

[Guest NoCalMike]

Can you imagine Sunday Night Heat before WM.

 

JR:"bah gawd 5 star frog splash.....the cover....1.....2.......3, new champions, new champions....new champions"

 

Lawler:"Hey, they can't do that to Chief Morley"

 

JR:"What a tag team match folks......only 55 minutes until Wrestlemania"

[Bored 0]

Look at this way with the reality of the political structure of Raw they could be tag champs or be stuck in pointless midcard feuds with Test or Scott Steiner or jobbing to Kevin Nash when he gets back to set up his eventual HHH feud.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

My plan involves RVD jobbing clean to insure he can gain no heat as a heel (thus pleasing the Office) and ending the Kane feud all in one night!

 

My ultimate goal is for RVD to be fired by summer.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

RVD is DOA at the moment, and not the crappy biker gang from 1998...him being fired would almost automatically land him in TNA, if they are around still. Van Dam would bring them instant starpower..but a heavy price tag.

 

But enough about TNA and RVD being fired. Those two guys DESERVE to be wrestling at Wrestlemania, after the burials they suffered during the fall, and the fact that they

are over as a tag team, I mean jeeze, I guess this just tells them to get even more lazy in the ring.

 

Doesn't this also hurt their paychecks'? By not wrestling during the PPV timeslot?

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

That's it!

 

I'm not ordering!!!!!!

lol.

 

I knew the second i read 'RVD on Heat' that you'd respond in that way.

 

Wrestlemania will blow anyway, *IF* i could order it, which i cannot thanks to McMahon's apparent distaste towards the Australian public, I'd only be ordering for HBK & Y2J.

 

..and Hogan/McMahon.

 

...I LIKE HOGAN, OKAY!

 

UYI

[Guest Army Eye]

There are much better spoilers on Meltzer's site. The reporter guy obviously knows what he's talking about (the guy quoted here can hardly speak English) and says that Cena's finisher is a Death Valley Driver, which makes more sense than a Michinoku driver.

 

I suggest you go read the spoilers there. Very interesting stuff about Angle's promo. He starts out getting Whats and heel heat but does a totally serious promo and turns himself face.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

"Doesn't this also hurt their paychecks'? By not wrestling during the PPV timeslot? "

 

Yes.

[Guest treble charged]

There are much better spoilers on Meltzer's site. The reporter guy obviously knows what he's talking about (the guy quoted here can hardly speak English) and says that Cena's finisher is a Death Valley Driver, which makes more sense than a Michinoku driver.

 

I suggest you go read the spoilers there. Very interesting stuff about Angle's promo. He starts out getting Whats and heel heat but does a totally serious promo and turns himself face.

Meltzer was actually at the show, so that's him writing the spoilers.

[Guest JMac19]

3) Cena gives Rikishi a michinoku driver?!? WTF?

The spoilers on Wrestlingobserver and Rajah both say it was a Death Valley Driver, so I will believe them.

[Guest bravesfan]

For those who are a bit lazy...

 

WWE Smackdown taping notes from the final show before Wrestlemania in San Jose tonight:

 

The unabridged version...

 

As we came to the arena there was a gigantic line of people waiting to get in. The first thing I noticed is that unlike a few years back, almost nobody was wearing a wrestling T-shirt. I saw a few Austin 3:16's and NWO shirts, all probably purchased circa 1998. Maybe two Undertakers, three Mysterios, zero Hogan or Lesnar or anybody else. In the building at ringside, there were Hogan's everywhere in front of the camera, yet nowhere else.

 

Show opened with the classic video that dates back to the 70s and Bruno. Very interesting reaction. No reaction to anyone pre-1984, including Pat Patterson (the people from here who knew him are long since departed). First reaction was Roddy Piper, who got a very big pop. No reaction to Andre or most of the 80s guys, including Snuka. Hogan was booed (they booed his name a second time when they were pitching the new Hogan football jersey shirt), but as always happens, when he actually made a live appearance, it was entirely different. Bret & Owen Hart got big pops. People booed the WCW footage a lot. No reaction earlier to Diesel but a little to Razor Ramon. Also no real reaction to Undertaker, yet when he showed up in real life, they popped big for him. Austin got a good reaction, but hardly what you'd think. Rock got more boos than cheers, but really not a big reaction. Angle got a ton of boos. HHH got a good amount of boos Lesnar got huge cheers. I have no clue as to why the biggest cheer was probably Bret Hart or Lesnar.

 

Dark matches

 

Sean O'Haire b Tommy Drake with the edge in 4:41. Crowd got bored as soon as O'Haire started working a body part. Of course he doesn't really know how. Big pop for the finish and people were murmuring razor's edge.

 

Chris Kanyon b Chad Collyer in 5:48. They announced Collyer from San Jose to get a big pop. Last night he was announced from Sacramento. Very good reaction to Kanyon. Collyer is a good wrestler and is the kind of opponent that Kanyon can do well with. Good near falls and Collyer got one near fall that popped the place big. Kanyon won with the flatliner. Second or third best match on the show.

 

Velocity

 

Our boy Josh got a so-so pop. Ernest the Cat can't announce, but he has a lot of natural charisma. People enjoyed seeing him dance. I'll bet none of them actually watch Velocity and hear him announce.

 

Sho Funaki b Jamie Noble with a total phatass tornado DDT in 4:53. This was the second or third best match on the show just for that move. Noble deserves better.

 

Bill DeMott b Apollo Khan in 1:55. They did an injury gimmick where Khan got offense on DeMott. DeMott leveled him with a hard clothesline and they sold it like Khan was injured and the match was stopped with the UFC TKO finish. I don't think people believed Khan was hurt because they popped big when DeMott after the match gave him a power bomb.

 

Johnny Stamboli b Tajiri in 4:42 with a powerslam after interference by Nunzio. Tajiri did, in fact, work a near miracle here. Fans cheered Tajiri a lot after this match, apparently recognizing this.

 

Smackdown

 

Matt Hardy & Shannon Moore b Rey Mysterio & Brian Kendrick in 5:15. Best match of the night. It was great until the last minute, when things got sloppy, but sloppy in a way that I think they can be edited. Nobody booed Hardy but they cheered Mysterio more. Hardy got a legit superstar reaction and it wasn't just women cheering. By far the best crowd reactions as well. Kendrick did a swinging DDT that was even better than Funaki's earlier in the show. Hardy pinned Kendrick after two twists of fate. The first was one sloppy, and Matt, like a pro, did a second one right away so you'll never see the first one. After the match, Mysterio did the 619 on Moore, but Hardy gave Mysterio two twists of fate and left him laying. Every about the segment was strong

 

Hogan showed up with Nasty Nick and Jimmy Hart.

 

Eddy Guerrero b Charlie Haas in 4:54 with a messed up cradle. Haas worked on Guerrero's left arm and people were barely okay with it. But the match fell apart, in a way that I don't think they'll be able to edit to take it all out. We'll see, but when Guerrero and Haas were on different pages for the finish, I really expected them to continue the match.

 

Well, the advertised debut of Nathan Jones didn't happen. That was probably a good thing. He was supposed to face Palumbo. Undertaker found his psychotic friend, who showed Undertaker a laid out Palumbo. Undertaker then said he would try and teach him what was both good and bad about what he just did.

 

They had not one, but two different clips airing on different parts of the show of Shane training Vince. Yes, Shane is back. However, Stephanie was never on the show. First clip was Vince lifting in the gym and doing bodybuilding poses. Vince is no genetic freak, but he is a freak. The other, later in the show, was Vince wrestling, and whomping ass on Dr. Tom Prichard. That wasn't pretty at all. They handled the build-up to a lot of the matches a lot better tonight than last night, but I still can't get into this main event.

 

Nidia is still mad about Torrie Wilson being in Playboy. She asked Jamie Noble if Torrie was pretty. He's screwed.

 

Torrie Wilson b Nidia in 2:11 with a DDT. Wilson was giving Nidia the lamest chops and the fans were laughing doing the Flair "Whoo"

 

O'Haire did a vignette telling people to eat whatever they want. As you can imagine, the majority of people enjoyed that advice

 

Show & A-Train bumped into the psychotic Australian. They ended up talking behind his back, but he heard them and was not happy.

 

Show & A-Train beat Benoit & Rhyno via DQ in 7:08. Mostly Benoit in with the Train, so it was okay. Show & Train were having their way when Jones ran in and started punching both guys. He threw about eight punches before they swarmed him, which was about five too many as people were starting to catch on. Undertaker made the save and he and Jones cleared the ring. I was sort of thinking that to make a new star, doing it this way is ass backwards, but since it's Jones, if they were doing it right, he'd be in OVW for a year before we saw him anyway.

 

Hogan came out to a huge reaction. Every time the crowd started getting tired of cheering him, he did the eyes, started working, and brought them back. This was at least a couple of minutes before he started talking. He said if he were to lose, it would be his last match because he's a man of his word. Now that was funny. He teased that it might be his last match, which would have been fine if that wasn't the same thing teased two segments later. He didn't promise to beat Vince, only to make him bleed. Very good promo to build the match. When he left, the people behind me, who cheered like crazy seeing this man come out, after he left noted how bad it's going to be to see two 70-year-old guys fight.

 

Chavo Guerrero b Shelton Benjamin with la magistral in 6:21. Crowd wasn't into this at all. Eddy and Haas were at ringside. After the match, Benoit & Rhyno came down, to atone for being stooges to the real stars earlier like A-Train, and Benoit put the crossface on Haas while Rhyno gored Benjamin

 

Kurt Angle went into Brock Lesnar's dressing room. One thing was clear from this. Most people were not aware Angle was hurt. You could sense a few did. Very interesting reaction. Angle said that if his wrestling career ended on Sunday, he's okay with it, because of everything he's accomplished both as an amateur and pro. 90% of the crowd was doing the What business and laughing through this very serious and unfunny shoot speech. The other 10% was clearly unhappy at the lack of respect. After about a minute, Angle's serious talk had them and everyone took him serious. It was a great piece of business with Angle saying he's leaving nothing on the table and his plan is to raise the bar to what a great wrestling match is. He said to Lesnar that we're both alike and we're both the two best guys in the company. Lesnar said if it was his last match, he could also live with it and he also intended to raise the bar and said that Angle had a lot of guts. When this was over, they cheered Angle. A few minutes later when they were running down the Mania card with the visual and showed Angle vs. Lesnar, it got the biggest pop and everyone cheered Angle.

 

John Cena b Rikishi in 5:28 with a death valley driver, which is his new finisher. Cena earlier in the show promised to call out Lesnar. Match had no heat, but there was a very major lesson here. When Cena got Rikishi up, and did the move, and then got the three, the whole place was in awe. Winning and losing, when it's clean and powerful as opposed to a fluke, does still matter because nobody saw Cena on that level. He then challenged Lesnar to come out. One thing for sure. Whether Lesnar can draw or not, people think he's the real deal. Cena elevated himself (and got lots of cheers earlier for his interview calling out Lesnar) but everyone thought for sure Lesnar was going to kill him. I believe the show ends with Lesnar not coming out and Cena going back to find him.

 

But for those of us live, Cena came out, and Lesnar came out. They did a long stare down until Cena spit in Lesnar's face, and Lesnar hit an F-5 to end the show.

 

Overall some good interviews and good well directed hype for the big show. No good wrestling on Smackdown after the opener

 

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HHH got a good amount of boos. Lesnar got huge cheers. I have no clue as to why the biggest cheer was probably Bret Hart or Lesnar.

 

Wait, have they re-done the Desire video, or is just talking about the reaction to Lesnar during the show?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I wish they would just fire him.

 

In fact...I pray at least once a week that they would just fire him.

Does he really have that much talent?

 

I mean, seriously. He's impressive to look at, but that's about it. Sure, that makes him easy as pie to get over and they could use that, but he's no Chris Benoit.

[Guest Army Eye]

Meltzer was actually at the show, so that's him writing the spoilers.

heh I didn't even notice. No wonder the spoilers were so good.

[Guest treble charged]

HHH got a good amount of boos. Lesnar got huge cheers. I have no clue as to why the biggest cheer was probably Bret Hart or Lesnar.

 

Wait, have they re-done the Desire video, or is just talking about the reaction to Lesnar during the show?

Yeah, they air a revamped version at the events, now. Most of it is still the same, but there are new parts added and somep parts are changed. Oh, and of course, they've gotten the F out.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I wish they would just fire him.

 

In fact...I pray at least once a week that they would just fire him.

Does he really have that much talent?

 

I mean, seriously. He's impressive to look at, but that's about it. Sure, that makes him easy as pie to get over and they could use that, but he's no Chris Benoit.

Since when the fuck does talent matter?

 

Hogan, Vince, HHH, HBK, Taker, Show, Albert, NATHAN JONES...all on show.