Nathan Jones

[Guest Downhome]

All of this, and none of you have seen him have a single match on WWE TV...

 

...*sigh*.

[Guest buffybeast]

How bad a wrestler could he be? (insert obligatory Mark Henry joke here)

Just watch mania my friend.

 

*sits back and smiles, waiting for Wrestlemania*

Has anyone seen Nathan Jones in a match? I doubt many of you have. How can you write him off if you haven't seen him perform?

 

Of course, I read the reviews of his matches in WWA (?) and I read he stunk. Maybe he's improved since then.

 

Just because he's a hoss doesn't mean he will automatically suck.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

WWA and other various indies...believe me, the man sucks. When some people are so bad they usually don't "have it." And for Nathan Jones I think that's the case.

 

But I'd like to be wrong, I hope he got a lot better. Cause as a charcter alone I think he could draw.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

How bad a wrestler could he be? (insert obligatory Mark Henry joke here)

Just watch mania my friend.

 

*sits back and smiles, waiting for Wrestlemania*

Has anyone seen Nathan Jones in a match? I doubt many of you have. How can you write him off if you haven't seen him perform?

 

Of course, I read the reviews of his matches in WWA (?) and I read he stunk. Maybe he's improved since then.

 

Just because he's a hoss doesn't mean he will automatically suck.

I've seen him enough to know.

 

heh, besides. He's not even really a tough guy..(This IS the same person that got his ass kicked in 2 minutes in Pride..)

[Guest notJames]

Did you see him when he ran in last night? He had no clue what to do in there. His punches looked worse than Lance Storm's, and barely had enough presence of mind to take a bump when Big Show hit him.

 

Do you honestly think the Jones/Palumbo match didn't go down solely for storylline purposes? For shame.

 

Believe me, I want to buy into Jones, since he has a bad-ass look and all. But what I've seen so far doesn't exactly fill me with hope.

[Guest evilhomer]

Kayfabe's answer: He won a "World's Strongest Man" competition. How bad a wrestler could he be? (insert obligatory Mark Henry joke here)

So you're saying we could be getting someone worse than Mark Henry???

 

Hold me, I'm scared.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

No, I have not yet seen him work a match, but I did ask a friend of mine on AIM, who is from Wales and who HAS seen him live in WWA, how he was. And I asked him on his thoughts on Jones, not "how bad is he" because I did not want to prompt a negative response. He responded that if there was a vomiting smilie he'd use it. I have more reason to believe him than someone posting in a board that he's "not that bad" or whatever apologist logic du jour, which may or may not be due to going against the grain just because it's fun or what not.

 

So unless he's had a radical improvement in ring work in just one year, and sad punches are the worst of what he has to offer (funny how that was the extent of his offensive flurry), I do not think he is worth the hype accorded to him.

[Guest Downhome]

Fair enough. I've seen him in about three dark matches and I can see plenty of positives about him. As long as they fine tune everything, he will be a good big man and of much use. He's quick, willing to take the fall over the top rope, does his every move with intensity (which like it or not, does get over ala Goldberg), and he has a very marketable look.

 

Not everyone in the world must be a flawless worker, there are plenty of other reasons to like someone and to be entertained by them.

 

Yes, he's green as hell obviously, and he's also being pushed too far, too soon, and should not be in WWE as of right now. Still, as long as they play their cards right, he DOES have more than one positive on his side.

[Guest Human Fly]

does his every move with intensity (which like it or not, does get over ala Goldberg), and he has a very marketable look.

That didn't work for Batista, they paired him with the Champ and HHH and he still couldn't get over.

 

I've never seen a Jones match. But if everyone who has ever reviewed any of his matches says he sucks, then that's good enough for me. I have seen him botch a spin kick and look generally clueless in run-ins though.

 

If Jeff Jarrett couldn't get a watchable match out of him I have NO confidence that A-Train, Big Show, and Undertaker will be able too.

[Guest Redhawk]

I haven't seen Jones yet, so I have no idea if he's good or not. But even if he is bad, what should you expect? Isn't he pretty much a rookie? Guys don't come out of the indies putting on 4-star matches; it takes them time. And all kinds of guys who put on good matches now -- Rock, HHH, Brock Lesnar -- struggled at first even though they were put higher up on the card. So even if he sucks at WM, isn't it possible he'll get better later? Then again, keeping him out of the ring until a major PPV reminds me of how they handled the Scott Steiner situation.

[Guest Downhome]

does his every move with intensity (which like it or not, does get over ala Goldberg), and he has a very marketable look.

That didn't work for Batista, they paired him with the Champ and HHH and he still couldn't get over.

You can't compare the two, they never even did anything with Batista in that angle in order for him to get over, before he got hurt, same goes for Randy Orton. I still say that Batista will be very over once he gets into a solid program with someone, with a storline of his own, again, same for Orton.

[Guest ViciousFish]

does his every move with intensity (which like it or not, does get over ala Goldberg), and he has a very marketable look.

That didn't work for Batista, they paired him with the Champ and HHH and he still couldn't get over.

You can't compare the two, they never even did anything with Batista in that angle in order for him to get over, before he got hurt, same goes for Randy Orton. I still say that Batista will be very over once he gets into a solid program with someone, with a storline of his own, again, same for Orton.

I think Randy orton and Bastista have a great future and I think they will indeed 'make it', with or without HHH. More likely without, but I think they can make it with him too. It'll just take longer.

 

I personally prefer Smackdown because I think they have a better product. They have fewer long winded promos, but with Hogan and Vinnie Mac lately they have had an increase, and while they have hosses, they do seem to have a higher number of fast paced matches which is something I relly like. As well, Smackdown has a better announce team, and Funaki Smackdown Announcer #1. And the fact that I totally mark for Benoit and Angle really doesn't hurt the fact either.

[Guest Downhome]

I personally prefer Smackdown because I think they have a better product. They have fewer long winded promos, but with Hogan and Vinnie Mac lately they have had an increase, and while they have hosses, they do seem to have a higher number of fast paced matches which is something I relly like. As well, Smackdown has a better announce team, and Funaki Smackdown Announcer #1. And the fact that I totally mark for Benoit and Angle really doesn't hurt the fact either.

Speaking of this, I never did comment on this past Smackdown. I would just like to say that as long as I still have the slightest chance to seeing matches such as Rey/Brian vs Matt/Shannon, I will forever be a Pro. Wrestling fan.

 

It's moments like that match right there, that make watching each and every show worthwhile in my eyes.

[Guest ViciousFish]

I would just like to say that as long as I still have the slightest chance to seeing matches such as Rey/Brian vs Matt/Shannon, I will forever be a Pro. Wrestling fan.

 

It's moments like that match right there, that make watching each and every show worthwhile in my eyes.

That was by far my favorite Smackdown matches. It wasn't perfect but I feel they went out gave as close to 100% as possible with 'Mania around the corner. And that Giant Swing/Dropkick spot was damn skippy.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Like I said, I hope he's improved. We're going to get a ton of Nathan Jones whether he's good or not, so I hope he's getting better.

[Guest Downhome]

Like I said, I hope he's improved. We're going to get a ton of Nathan Jones whether he's good or not, so I hope he's getting better.

I agree, and let me stress once again that I DO NOT feel he should be on TV already. He should have been in OVW for at LEAST six months before even having the promos of him being shown. I'm a fan of his so far, even if he's below average in the ring when we see him, he still has the type of character which I love, and for that I'll be entertained by him regardless.

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

How bad a wrestler could he be? (insert obligatory Mark Henry joke here)

Just watch mania my friend.

 

*sits back and smiles, waiting for Wrestlemania*

Has anyone seen Nathan Jones in a match? I doubt many of you have. How can you write him off if you haven't seen him perform?

 

Of course, I read the reviews of his matches in WWA (?) and I read he stunk. Maybe he's improved since then.

 

Just because he's a hoss doesn't mean he will automatically suck.

I've seen him enough to know.

 

heh, besides. He's not even really a tough guy..(This IS the same person that got his ass kicked in 2 minutes in Pride..)

His Pride fight was a work.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Not everyone in the world must be a flawless worker, there are plenty of other reasons to like someone and to be entertained by them.

I don't expect flawlessness. On the other hand, I don't expect atrociousness, while at the same time being told that it's something that I should accept.

 

does his every move with intensity (which like it or not, does get over ala Goldberg)

 

Yet Goldberg is coming in, so if I wanted a Goldberg-esque character I would watch Goldberg, not an imitation from Down Unda.

 

I'm a fan of his so far, even if he's below average in the ring when we see him, he still has the type of character which I love, and for that I'll be entertained by him regardless.

 

Glad you feel that way. You pay for the inevitable PPVs that will feature him then. The 0.5 buyrates have to come from somewhere, you know.

 

You can't compare the two, they never even did anything with Batista in that angle in order for him to get over

 

Not in the Evolution angle, no, but I guess I must have been imagining the whole "unleash your anger because you grew up in foster homes thing" with Flair. Not to mention the "genetic revolution" vignettes. So to say that they didn't try to market his intensity is slightly inaccurate.

[Guest JDMattitudeV1]

I also read somewhere, (I don't know whether it's true or not) that he's 37 years old. I could almost understand if he was in his 20's or even early 30's at leat then you have time to work with him, but the guy is amost middle-aged.

 

And my brother has seen him work in the WWA and says he sucks, and he finds HHH entertaining.

[Guest Quik]

Um, did anyone see him run-in and throw those badass punches? Or how bout his reverse kip-up back-bump?

 

I've never seen a kip-down before; he sucks.

[Guest AndrewTS]

How bad a wrestler could he be? (insert obligatory Mark Henry joke here)

Just watch mania my friend.

 

*sits back and smiles, waiting for Wrestlemania*

Has anyone seen Nathan Jones in a match? I doubt many of you have. How can you write him off if you haven't seen him perform?

 

Of course, I read the reviews of his matches in WWA (?) and I read he stunk. Maybe he's improved since then.

 

Just because he's a hoss doesn't mean he will automatically suck.

I've seen him wrestle live, in dark matches. He sucks.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I just saw a dark match of his (vs. Mike Kincaid) that I found and downloaded earlier today.

 

It was your basic "beat on and throw around a guy half your size" squash, that we've seen from Batista, Albert and DeMott several times in the last half-year. Nothing spectacular or overly noteworthy. Oh, and he had bad strikes there too, although he didn't punch once (and I know why).

 

Well, at least now I can say that I've seen him for myself.

[Guest buffybeast]

Well, I will hold off my opinion of Jones until I see his performance at Wrestlemania. I do agree with a poster, however, that Jones' run-ins thus far have sucked shit. He's looked lost and clumsy in the ring.