Guest The Masked Yodeler Report post Posted March 21, 2002 --They are advertising the following talent in Germany for the WWF show on 5/1 and this is actually a major story and I'll explain why. Advertised on the show are Austin, HHH, Jericho, Nash, Hall, Kane, RVD, Hardys, Lita, Big Show, X-Pac, Regal, Billy & Chuck, Bradshaw and Jazz. This will be Ric Flair's Raw crew on Monday. Unlike the previous stories that line-ups that have come out from the WWF, there is something to this. What we mentioned more than a week back in the newsletter about the WWF's promo release of Flair on Smackdown and Vince on Raw. I don't believe this was done as a swerve since their promo materials on all the cable stations are now wrong, but, because these decisions simply aren't made until about a week ahead. When that Flair-Vince thing came out, as we reported at that time, the decision hadn't even been made. Anything in more than vague terms about long-term WWF booking, and even vague terms, are always subject to change. This isn't 1988 where they go into Wrestlemania one year already building the main event angle for the next year. Anyway, they did this past weekend actually make decisions on who will be on what side. This release was sent by the WWF to Germany and unlike other line-ups that were just done so the building had something to advertise before the decisions were made, this one is a real plan, who they really are sending, and done after the meeting to determine who would be on which side. What we can deduce from this is, as things stood yesterday, is that HHH and Jazz are floaters and will work both Monday and Thursday. The above names will be the top stars on Monday for Flair. That would leave Vince's top stars are Hogan, Rock, Angle, Undertaker, Edge and Booker T. There still could be minor modifications and nothing is official until it is done on live TV on Monday night, but this will at least give you the idea of the depth from each show. -wrestlingobserver.com Fuck! That means I have to watch both shows. And why are there crappy wrestlers on Raw? I REALLY hope they change this, cause those rosters look like crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted March 21, 2002 --They are advertising the following talent in Germany for the WWF show on 5/1 and this is actually a major story and I'll explain why. Advertised on the show are Austin, HHH, Jericho, Nash, Hall, Kane, RVD, Hardys, Lita, Big Show, X-Pac, Regal, Billy & Chuck, Bradshaw and Jazz. This will be Ric Flair's Raw crew on Monday. Unlike the previous stories that line-ups that have come out from the WWF, there is something to this. What we mentioned more than a week back in the newsletter about the WWF's promo release of Flair on Smackdown and Vince on Raw. I don't believe this was done as a swerve since their promo materials on all the cable stations are now wrong, but, because these decisions simply aren't made until about a week ahead. When that Flair-Vince thing came out, as we reported at that time, the decision hadn't even been made. Anything in more than vague terms about long-term WWF booking, and even vague terms, are always subject to change. This isn't 1988 where they go into Wrestlemania one year already building the main event angle for the next year. Anyway, they did this past weekend actually make decisions on who will be on what side. This release was sent by the WWF to Germany and unlike other line-ups that were just done so the building had something to advertise before the decisions were made, this one is a real plan, who they really are sending, and done after the meeting to determine who would be on which side. What we can deduce from this is, as things stood yesterday, is that HHH and Jazz are floaters and will work both Monday and Thursday. The above names will be the top stars on Monday for Flair. That would leave Vince's top stars are Hogan, Rock, Angle, Undertaker, Edge and Booker T. There still could be minor modifications and nothing is official until it is done on live TV on Monday night, but this will at least give you the idea of the depth from each show. -wrestlingobserver.com Fuck! That means I have to watch both shows. And why are there crappy wrestlers on Raw? I REALLY hope they change this, cause those rosters look like crap. I wouldn't make anything of that at all. The quote "Card is Subject to Change" has never meant more than it does right NOW... ...I wont believe ANY news on the rosters untill this coming Monday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted March 21, 2002 Plus, as stupid as it sounds, they've been talking about doing "A" and "B" house shows rather than Flair and Vince. They still haven't really thought this through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted March 21, 2002 Are they breaking up the APA? Fuck...we might actually have to watch those two wrestle every once in a while. And how much sense would it make to put Hogan/Rock and the nWo on different rosters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 21, 2002 I hope that isn't true. First off, they need to keep the nWo with Hogan & Rock. They in a storyline together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Masked Yodeler Report post Posted March 21, 2002 I REALLY hope that this changes, because if it doesn't, the split will stand a good chance of sucking harder than Steph on HHH's dick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted March 21, 2002 Meltzer's confirming it. This is getting scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 22, 2002 If these rosters are true, then that means only one thing. Crossovers a plenty. Hogan/Rock will feud with the NWO, so this won't end up being a real split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted March 22, 2002 I'm actually relieved that the NWO isn't going to be on both shows. But actually they still could be since the Smackdown roster hasn't been leaked at all, it could just be assumed they are just on Raw. Either that or they will already start cross promotion (which is stupid) by doing the Hall/Nash-Rock/Hogan rematch at Backlash or something. Who knows. This could very well be changed by Monday though, since the WWF seems to be set on their ways of "surprising" all of us now and defying the sheets. So they could just make changes at the last minute just to spite the sheets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 22, 2002 I'm convinced this is fake. It would break up most of their current feuds. And sticking Austin with the NWO will not make him happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted March 22, 2002 I'm convinced this is fake. It would break up most of their current feuds. And sticking Austin with the NWO will not make him happy. It probably isn't fake per se. I just doubt the WWF has planned that far in advance about the split, honestly. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted March 22, 2002 When did the WWF make that announcment public? Jim Ross said last week that they weren't done with the rosters yet so that was probably written well before the split was announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted March 22, 2002 I take this with a grain of salt. Regal is the reigning Euro champion. So you mean Flair is going to have only a cruiserweight champion on his show with Maven the hardcore champion? That doesn't sound balanced or make sense. Flair would have no true top level champion on his roster. I agree I don't think the wwf has planned that much in advance. BTW, the wwf doesn't give out full card line-ups for a house show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ash Ketchum Report post Posted March 22, 2002 I thought champions (HHH, Billy & Chuck, RVD, Regal, Maven, Jazz, X-Pac) were exempt from the draft for the single reason if they were drafted on one show... they'd only defend against half the actual roster. And it'd be boring to see HHH vs. Austin every single time they wanna do a title match... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 22, 2002 Only the WWF Champion & Womens Champion will appear on both shows. The WWF hasn't said anything about the rest of the titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smeghead Report post Posted March 22, 2002 BTW, the wwf doesn't give out full card line-ups for a house show. They don't give out full card line-ups for house shows in the states. House shows overseas are a different story. The card for the recent Yokohama Arena show was made available long before the show actually happened. Still, take this line-up with a grain of salt. It really doesn't make sense from a storyline standpoint to split up Rock, Hogan, and the nWo. And putting Austin with the nWo is not the smartest move they can make. Remember those four little words: "Card subject to change." Like Downhome said, those words are more important now than they have ever been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 22, 2002 May 1st is a Wednesday... why is it assumed that the RAW roster is in effect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted March 22, 2002 Don't worry the wwf doesn't give full card line ups here in Canada either. They just say the star names which this line up is. This seems more generic than anything. The wwf probably didn't even announce the full card to the Japanese audience either until 2 weeks prior to the show. Japan probably wouldn't tolerate it although they sold out pretty quickly. Austin and nWo don't mix and Vince would be smoking some serious stuff to handfeed himself a recipe for headaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 22, 2002 It also stands to reason that as long as Austin and flair are on the same show that Flair-Austin could be a reality providing us smarks with the antithesis of Rock-Hogan. That's not a bad thing.... that's a good thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites