We were told to act different post 9/11

[Guest NoCalMike]

Besides some security measures being taken at airports,(and the sale of american flags) what else has changed? I find it highly hypocritical that Bush told the american people that things have to be different now, but a week or two later, John Ascroft was going forward with the ludicrous war on drugs by "cracking down" on head shops nation-wide. It seems like the war on terrorism was being used to push the stupid war on drugs at a time that nobody wanted to question anything the administration had to say. So what has changed, on any and every level of life? (this of course is excluding us being at war with iraq, I mean on the homefront)

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

We're more paranoid and nationalist.

 

*shrug*

 

I think anyone with a brain could've told you that we weren't really gonna change our lives after 9/11. Perhaps we hold a higher value on life (...), but that's about it.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

We're more paranoid and nationalist.

indeed.

 

I know many Americans and they all have become far more Paranoid

[Guest Choken One]

We've become even more embarassing to watch with our "FUCK THE WORLD, GO USA! GO USA!, Learn to speak American Sand Niggers!" sentiments that you see all the time.

 

Fucking ass clowns wearing those dumb Fuck Bin Laden and all that stupid shit...

 

People are about the same...Only more dumb looking.

[Guest MrRant]

There are more hippies somehow.... that needs to be stopped.

 

Also people are watching the news more (whether they UNDERSTAND it is debatable *sp* including some people here) and that is a good thing.

[Guest cynicalprofit]

We're getting broker and cynicism is on the rise. Oh and prices are going up...on everything.

[Guest T®ITEC]

double post

Edited April 5, 2003 by superfluousT®ITEC

[Guest T®ITEC]

On a personal level, it permanently messed with my head. I've actually been growing up quite a lot since then, and I've altogether stopped caring about the stupid fights we teenagers seem to love so much. I don’t know how exactly; it’s as if someone hit a switch in my brain.

 

 

Unrelated: I also managed to humiliate myself in class last month, when my teacher had us watch HBO's documentary about 9/11. I started crying and had to leave the room. Whoo boy.

[Guest EricMM]

I think the suspicion of Arabs has soared in America. I mean there's a place in college park which is a restaurant/houka bar. It's called the Prince Cafe. They serve shish kebabs as well as shawerma and different kinds of Beryani and Tikki. It's pretty good food. But they also have two TV's that show nothing but Arabic language television. I mean it's not like they exclude people, and it's one of the only restaurants where you can smoke while you eat in college park (there's another section seperated by a door that's non smoking, nice touch) but a few people I know are still leery. Hell, I am a little more leery than I once was. I blame terrorists for doing this to me, but I also blame myself for being so shallow. It just sucks.

[Guest Vyce]

We're more paranoid and nationalist.

Which is a good thing in my book.

[Guest Powerplay]

We're getting broker and cynicism is on the rise. Oh and prices are going up...on everything.

We are getting broker? *Points to Russia* Talk to THEM about being broke... but gas prices are going down, not up, so there's something.

 

We've become even more embarassing to watch with our "FUCK THE WORLD, GO USA! GO USA!, Learn to speak American Sand Niggers!" sentiments that you see all the time.

 

Fucking ass clowns wearing those dumb Fuck Bin Laden and all that stupid shit...

 

People are about the same...Only more dumb looking.

 

I've also seen a real rise in "AMERCIA SUX0RS, BUSH SUX0RS, STOP THE BABYKILLERS, VIVA LA FRANCE!!" in my college area. The idiots from both sides have come out of the woodwork.

 

I, personally, have seen far more distrust towards the Arab population, which I can rationalize but still really don't like. I can see why people wouldn't, but I think it's sad that so few people can so drastically effect our outlook on a whole race of people. Plus, there's always a kind of lingering feeling that something could happen to your family members when they go into a large, populated area. I am always nervous for my mom when she goes to Detroit, since we have a massive Arab Population not far away from it. I know that they all aren't terrorists, but I keep thinking "If a terrorist wanted to find a place to hide, that's where it'd be, and the biggest populated area is Detroit." It makes me shudder every now and then.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

We're more paranoid and nationalist.

Which is a good thing in my book.

If you read history to any extent, nationalism is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOTNOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOTNOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOTNOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOTNOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOTNOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT............

 

*breath*

 

 

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a good thing.

[Guest Powerplay]

Depends on the type of nationalism. A healthy pride for one's country is okay, but jingoism never does anyone any good. More nationalism means people want to be more active in their government, which relates to better voter turnouts and more legitimate officals in office. Low nationalism, though, sparks indifference with the system, which in turn means a low voter turnout and possibly worse candidates. But take it how you see it.

[Guest MrRant]

We're more paranoid and nationalist.

Which is a good thing in my book.

If you read history to any extent, nationalism is NOT NOT NOT

 

*breath*

 

 

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a good thing.

In my mind the Roman Empire was pretty nationalistic (empiristic?) and seem to last quite a long time. nothing wrong with pride and believing your country is the best.

[Guest bob_barron]

On a personal level, it permanently messed with my head. I've actually been growing up quite a lot since then, and I've altogether stopped caring about the stupid fights we teenagers seem to love so much. I don’t know how exactly; it’s as if someone hit a switch in my brain.

 

 

Unrelated: I also managed to humiliate myself in class last month, when my teacher had us watch HBO's documentary about 9/11. I started crying and had to leave the room. Whoo boy.

I hear you TRITEC. I watched that documentary and cried my eyes out. Only time I've ever cried about what happened.

 

I've become more of a New York nationalist. The attacks made me much prouder to be from the great state of New York and I've grown to respect my home a lot more.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Let's look at the movements sparked by fierce nationalism, shall we?

 

The French Revolution and Napoleanic Wars

Hitler and Nazism

The Communist Revolution in the USSR

Moussolini and Fascism

 

Need more? Chortle over to your local library and read about the dangers of nationalism! Have a nice day.

[Guest Choken One]

Chortle? Can I just Walk? Or perhaps just hop into my truck or rather my Mustang and DRIVE there?

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

...why the fuck do you have to be different?

[Guest MrRant]

What's wrong with Empire building?

 

Edit: And I don't chortle. I swing my cape around like Snydley Whiplash and laugh sinisterly while twirling my 'stache (if I had one so my goatee).

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

::points to Hitler::

[Guest MrRant]

So one bad egg ruins all of us who aspire to dominate the world and hold the lives of the peasants in our hands and have ULTIMATE~! control? Come now.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

::points to Moussolini::

[Guest MrRant]

Psh-shaw. He crossed his arms like a moron. Anyone who does that like him doesn't deserve to be a ruler.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

::points to Napoleon::

 

You can't support him.

[Guest MrRant]

Of course not. He was a Frenchy midget. And you have to be at least average height.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

A-ha! But he came into power via nationalism.

 

See, it's a bad thing!

[Guest MrRant]

No... he was just a bad choice. Short + French = Failure in the Nationalism scene yo. NEXT~!

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Mao!

[Guest MrRant]

Miracle Whip~!

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Motherfucker.

 

How can you no-sell Mao?