Guest RevEvil Report post Posted April 6, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...c_massacre_dc_1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted April 6, 2003 Atrocities in Africa? Get out. That continent is a corrupt hell hole. They need some real leaders, or they'll always squabble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 6, 2003 Does this scream Kosovo or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted April 6, 2003 It just screams 3rd world cultural conflict. Happens everyday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted April 7, 2003 And I'm sure the UN will make things better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Maybe they could draft a resolution against mass murder. That would help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Let France get in there an tell them what to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Well, at least the UN would probably send in peacekeepers. Regardless of your opinions of the UN, peacekeepers (with guns) would likely help to subdue the killings. Maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Unless they send the French there, because even if the HAD guns no one would listen to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Touche. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted April 7, 2003 That sounds like a normal day over there. I mean everytime you turn around one tribe is trying to wipe out another or a government has been overthrown. The only country with any sort of stability there is South Africa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Didn't the UN high-tail out of Rwanda some years back, thus commencing the slaughter of hundreds of thousands?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Was it that, or did the UN not take action which allowed for something like 800,000 people to be massacred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Maybe, I can't remember... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted April 7, 2003 I think they sent something like 200 peace keepers over there and then they ran with their tails between their legs after the first soldier got killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Well, it's not happening in Europe, so I doubt the UN cares about it all that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Well, it's not happening in Europe, so I doubt the UN cares about it all that much. That's a stupid comment if I've ever heard one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted April 7, 2003 That's a stupid comment if I've ever heard one. From what I have heard, the UN seems a lot more Eurocentric than anything. Case in point, prosecuting a lot more war criminals from the Kosovo case than what happened in Rwanda, despite the Rwanda case being much worse in terms of war crimes than the Milosevic one. Besides, isn't Sadaam a war criminal? You don't see the UN going after him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Case in point, prosecuting a lot more war criminals from the Kosovo case than what happened in Rwanda, despite the Rwanda case being much worse war crimes than the Milosevic one. Um, Milosevic was committing genocide and had already eliminated around 2/3 of the Kosovo population. It's hard to imagine something much worse than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Um, Milosevic was committing genocide and had already eliminated around 2/3 of the Kosovo population. It's hard to imagine something much worse than that. I thought he was committing ethnic cleansing, as opposed to genocide, while the the Rwanda case was genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Ethnic cleansing IS genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted April 7, 2003 The U.N. really didn't do much of anything about either case to be honest. Clinton went it without U.N. approval. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted April 7, 2003 I guess I received some misinformation about the two cases from my political science teacher, I apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Here's a solid summary of what happened in Rwanda, going day by day. It doesn't beat actually sitting down and reading some of the reports, but it's pretty informative. The general gist is that there were about 2500 UNAMIR troops in Rwanda, and within a week of the genocide's start, that number was pulled back to 270. The biggest blow directly against the UN occurs on April 7th, 1994, when 10 Belgian UNAMIR officers are tricked into giving up their weapons and then subsequently tortured and murdered by the Hutu. From here on out, the UN and US became more concerned with getting their own people out of there. After that, the UN and the US did too little, too late. They spent their time drafting resolutions and condemning the Hutu without doing much to help the Tutsis. In a month and a half 500,000 Tutsis have been killed, and the Security Council is still kicking around, trying to decide whether what's going on qualifies as acts of genocide. Troops aren't deployed until the end of June, and by the time the Hutu have been beaten back at the end of July, 800,000 people are dead. It's one of the most horrible atrocities of the century. I would rank it second only to the Holocaust and personally place it above Milosevic and Kosovo simply because of the utter lack of action on the part of the UN and US. If you want to know more about this--and I personally think everyone should, because the fact that this happened within the last freaking decade and 9 out of 10 people you ask about it have no idea what the hell you're talking about is terrifying--then pick up a copy of the book We Wish To Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families by Phillip Gourevitch. It is amazing and terrifying. Ironically enough, this all started 9 years ago yesterday. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted April 7, 2003 The world at large doesn't give a flying fuck about Africans dying. I'm not saying this is right, but its true. A lot of the massacres have occured while UN troops stood by and watched these things occur. (Not literally, but were stationed within striking range where they could have fought it and did nothing) niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
