Stiffest Match You've Seen

[Guest Nevermortal]

I'm talking balls out, chops that pop blood vessels, hard kicks to the throat, head, and eye sockets. I'm talking suplexes on the head, and submissions that really get cranked on.

 

I'm choosing Low Ki/Hit Squad v. Special K from the recent RoH show in Boston. It was damn disgusting to watch live. Ki & The Hit Squad just massacred these guys, all of which couldn't have weighed more than 150 each.

 

Then again, I haven't seen much puroresu to judge. I do know that Kawada's a stiff MF, along with the rest of the All Japan-style hooligans.

[Guest razazteca]

Low Ki vs Christopher St Connection or whatever their name is, from Jersey All Pro. Low Ki knock a guy out unconscience.

 

Benoit vs Sabu in ECW, Sabu got suplexed on his head breaking his neck.

 

Rey Bucannero regularly takes insane outside bumps in his tag matches, has been thrown over the post to the outside several times. Rey Bucannero once gave Negro Casas the Wild Bomb in a tag title match.

 

With that floating head of yours, you already know about the American Dragon vs Low Ki vs Daniels matches from ROH and other indies.

[Guest Nevermortal]

With that floating head of yours, you already know about the American Dragon vs Low Ki vs Daniels matches from ROH and other indies.

Hell yes. Ki/Dragon from the 3-30 show & the three way from the 2-23 show are stiff as can be.

[Guest J*ingus]

The stiffest stuff generally comes when one guy is shooting on another, like the infamous Bruiser Brody-Lex Luger cage match. I got to commentate a match similar to that once, when a goofy wiry black guy called Superfly P beat the everliving shit out of a know-nothing backyard jabroni calling himself Kid Extreme (who claimed he was trained by Leaping Lanny PoffoFF), and it was great to watch.

[Guest Dmann2000]

The Vader/Cactus WCW Saturday Night matches were stiff.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

So was Cactus/Sullivan vs Nasties at Slamboree 1994.

 

Ref Dave Schultz knocked Saggs out legit with punches.

[Guest HartFan86]

That Slamboree 1994 match was insane. They literally beat the living fuck out of each other for 10 minutes straight.

[Guest XdojimeX]

AJ and to a lesser extent Japanese wrestling in general kind of gets the misconception that its total spudsville over there. That they're strictly crowbarring eachother left and right with wreckless abandon. Truth is they just work remarkebly snug. Of course there's exceptions where they go a bit overboard but for the most part if you study the matches they're pretty safe with eachother (kicking a wide area of the body like the back or chest that can absorb the blow for example).

 

The most wreckless stiffness I've seen in a match has to be Vader-Hansen at the Tokyo Dome though. AKA the Eye Socket match.

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

Not the stiffest ever, but the freshest match on my mind right now is Ohtani/Sammy 1/96. The match had more of an emphasis on submissions than striking, but the striking that is there is pretty brutal.

 

Sammy blocks a Achilles' Tendon Hold by rubbing his boot in Ohtani's face and kicking his eye until starts to swell up. Ohtani's nose also starts spraying blood everywhere a little later. And by the end of the match, Sammy's mouth gets busted, causing blood to run off his chin.

 

All Japan has too many mega stiff matches to count, but heres a few that come to mind, granted it's not recklessly stiff, but it's still rather brutal:

Hansen/Kawada 2/93, Kawada/Akiyama 1/93 and CC 95, Kawada/Misawa CC 95, Hansen/Kobashi 7/93, Kawada/Kobashi 10/93 and 10/96....etc.

[Guest razazteca]

The Vader/Cactus WCW Saturday Night matches were stiff.

Vader powerbombed Jack on the floor, right?

[Guest RedJed]

Since most seem to be mentioning either Puro, Lucha, or indys I'll take a different route and just go with either WCW or WWF/E.........

 

Other than the Slamboree 94 match there was a few matches between Regal and Fit Finley that seemed REALLY stiff, especially given the time period for WCW which was trying to be as family based as ever (95-96). I remember Finley nailing Regal with a fist to the cheek so hard you could hear the bone on bone noise, it was sick.

[Guest Tim Cooke]

2/28/93 Kawada v Hanson is the stiffest match out there.

 

Tim

[Guest goodhelmet]

2/28/93 Kawada v Hanson is the stiffest match out there.

 

Tim

i think i picked that match up a few months ago. must look through the tapes.

 

for me personally, i can't recall a match so stiff it made me cringe. possibly a hashmoto match but my mind is going blank.

[Guest Dmann2000]

The Vader/Cactus WCW Saturday Night matches were stiff.

Vader powerbombed Jack on the floor, right?

Yeah, but it was the punches and forearms in the corner from the first match that set up the motivation for the second. Cactus pulled out a CO victory on Vader and put up with his hardest shots. So the next week Vader decided "if you can't beat him, kill him".

 

Which WCW took to mean "if you can't beat him, give him amnesia and shoot a series of dumb and ridiculous skits around a dumb amnesia angle"

[Guest Rob Van Dam]

how could nobody not mention Low-Ki vs Samoa Joe from ROH Glory by Honor, stiffest match in roh history, between two guys giving it and taking it

[Guest Nevermortal]

how could nobody not mention Low-Ki vs Samoa Joe from ROH Glory by Honor, stiffest match in roh history, between two guys giving it and taking it

Ah yes. Awesome shit there.

[Guest Tim Cooke]

Ki/Joe was stiff, but sucked.

 

Tim

[Guest Nevermortal]

Ki/Joe was stiff, but sucked.

 

Tim

Well that's like.....your opinion....man.

[Guest Sandman9000]

Ian Rotten vs. Peter B Beautiful was one of those shoot instances like Jingys mentioned. Peter had gone on the IWA-MS message board before the 2001 KODM and said that he was going to no-sell all of Ian's stuff. So Ian goes out and beats the unholy shit out of Peter. Nasty forearm shots. Nasty thumbtack bat shots. And Ian, who is normally known for throwing sick chairshots, fucking kills Peter dead with FOUR uber-stiff chair shots.

[Guest ShooterJay]

I can see what Tim is saying. I have a clipped High Impact TV version of the match, it's basically Joe and Ki kicking, slapping and forearming each other really hard, then no-selling it.

 

Although the ending was really kickass.

[Guest Tim Cooke]

It sucks because of the selling.

 

Move wise, it isn't oo bad.

 

Tim

[Guest Nevermortal]

2/28/93 Kawada v Hanson is the stiffest match out there.

 

Tim

Tim...tell me more about this match.

 

I'm intrigued.

[Guest WhenDanSaysJump]

Awesome and Tanaka tend to let the stiff times roll against one another.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I'd have to say the infamous Hansen/Vader match where Vader almost lost an eye.

 

 

I like Stan as much as the next guy, but doesn't he feel BAD when something like that happens?

[Guest biggstevie]

Samoa Joe vs American Dragon Bryan Danielson First Anniversary Show - Queens, NY.

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

I'd have to say the infamous Hansen/Vader match where Vader almost lost an eye.

 

 

I like Stan as much as the next guy, but doesn't he feel BAD when something like that happens?

According to Foleys book Hansen was really stiff partly because he didn't have his glasses on in the ring and couldn't see where he was throwing his forearm for the Western Lariat.

 

Me, I'd go with Hansen/Kobashi, 2/28/93. The lariat of death that totally silences a super-hot crowd.