Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted April 9, 2003 Lizzie directed 2/5 movies (possibly more) that the authorities seized. She is one sick, depraved bitch. But she's still smoking hot. I'd do her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted April 9, 2003 Um, who cares? I never got your infatuation with her HSJ- She's done some of the most disgusting and degrading shit you'll ever see in her movies, and IMO, she's pretty sick and evil- most of it was HER IDEA. Not to mention her role in the Messiah attack- as Booker T once said "don't hate the playa, hate the bitch who opened her legs for him." 99% of women have a million times more class than Lizzy, and a good chunk of those 99% aren't artifically enhanced and coked out of their minds. May she suck cock for food from now on. Eh, she's still hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 9, 2003 May she suck cock for food from now on. I'd stick it in her ass for a warm home cooked meal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snuffbox Report post Posted April 9, 2003 I wont miss xpw at all.... but these 'sick & depraved' things sure are intriguing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted April 9, 2003 "Also, I'm surprised no one has come on here to dispute the basis of the raid. The government raided them because of porn films that were found to be objectionable. Is that bullshit or is it bullshit?" Me thinks a minor found her way on to whatever tape it was that they were after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Galactic Gigolo Report post Posted April 10, 2003 I know a couple of the films they seized featured girls being raped and killed. Essentially, fake snuff films. I doubt Extreme would be stupid enough to use an underaged girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted April 10, 2003 No, they would be... and good riddance to XPW...didn't they have a rape angle involving Lizzy Borden and Supreme or something like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EMAXSAUN Report post Posted April 10, 2003 No, it was with GQ money, and it wasnt a rape, he pretended like he was going to but another wrestler beat him up. Take this message from Rob Black about the raid on EA for what it's worth. Shock & Awe! at 11133-D Vanowen St. North Hollywood, CA. 91605! Alright everybody, I have not spoken in quite some time. Because, quite frankly, there has not been much to say. But, now I will clear the air and tell you exactly what happened so all the bullshit sites can get the facts straight for the first time. At approximately 9:10 AM Pacific Time Tuesday morning, roughly 47 uniformed federal marshals and postal inspectors from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with assistance from the LAPD, served a search and seizure warrant for 4 Extreme Associates and 1 Armageddon Entertainment movie. The movies were: 1. Extreme Teen #24 2. Cocktails #2 - Director's Cut 3. Ass Clowns #3 - Director's Cut 4. 1001 Ways to Eat My Jizz and last but certainly not least PBS' favorite: 5. Forced Entry Along with seizing copies of these movies, they seized "sales records, distribution records, invoices, transaction records, records of payments and deposits, profit/loss and financial statements, records of accounts payable and accounts receivable, expense records, customer lists, employee records, notes, correspondence and other business papers which reflect or relate to the production, advertisement, distribution, and the sale of the films. . ." There were no arrest warrants. Nobody was arrested. And, Extreme Associates doors are now and will remain open for business selling the fine quality Extreme product that you have grown to love. This will INCLUDE all of the videos which are part of this obscenity investigation as we stand by our product and feel that nothing we have ever produced is obscene. The only thing we may be guilty of is bad taste. As this is a preliminary investigation, there was nothing more and nothing less. So everyone can cool their jets. And for the record, the complaint which led to this investigation came out of Pittsburgh, PA and not out of Kentucky and not because of anything any former actress may have said or not said. This had to do with mailing a customer - a private individual - videos which they requested, paid for, and accepted! Now this is where we stand aswe know it and I will expand on more as our attorneys fill me in on the case of; THE UNITED STATES vs EXTREME ASSOCIATES (that's what the warrant says)! Now with this official statement out of the way, I can now open up my big fat mouth and give you some of my feelings on the situation. . . I definitely will not sit here and cry a bunch of tears. Remember when the PBS Frontline special came out (which a number of the inspectors made reference to when conducting interviews), it was I who challenged law enforcement to come after us for obscenity. So, while some may call this Karma, I want to remind everyone that I invited this. But, I must say that I feel honored and privileged because I always thought it would be some local law enforcement sanctioned by Deborah Sanchez and the LA Vice Squad (the same people who went after Max and Seymour), but fuck, we had the fucking FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, more than 40 agents, grace us with their presence. Add the money they spent to fly agents from Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, put them up in Los Angeles for a minimum of 10 days (the extent of the warrant), and pay them their significant salaries, plus the unknown future costs (which we have to assume will be at a bill of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TAX PAYER DOLLARS - and, as this is a FEDERAL CASE that means it's your money no matter which state you're from). Mind you, this business has not seen a MAJOR FEDERAL OBSCENITY INVESTIGATION in over 10 years. I guess we now have lived up to our reputation. I find it completely ridiculous and disheartening that on the same day that these federal agents delivered "shock and awe" to us, halfway across the world, the very same government is currently bombing Iraq in the name of "OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM!" The government drums up support for the war by telling us that they are attempting to liberate the Iraqi people and give them the most precious freedoms we enjoy. Meanwhile, on the homefront, the quietly attempt to limit this AMERICAN freedom. The key word is quietly. But as anyone who knows me, and the government should know me well enough by now, should know that QUIETLY JUST AIN'T IN OUR FUCKING VOCABULARY! Starting today, we will be giving you periodic updates in the case of THE UNITED STATES vs EXTREME ASSOCIATES. The very same media that thrust us into the spotlight will now have their much anticipated main event. So make sure you stay tuned because we are just getting started. To the few in the industry who have supported us, and you know who you are, I thank you and appreciate it, even when my actions at times were completely retarded. And for our fans who have continued to support us, get ready for a NEW EXTREME starting this summer! EXTREME EVOLUTION is coming. We are going back to our roots: what brought us to the dance, what made you a fan, and what made the other companies jealous and fear us! We have a whole bunch of fucking surprises. New lines, new directors, new girls, and that's just the Start! And for those of you who hate us (and I know that would take us all 10 days of the warrant to list), I will simply accept your thank yous quietly, with maybe a passing wink or smile, when it is us who fights this case and wins standing up for the entire business and allowing you to continue your business unhampered by the government. It will be us that will be listed in the books as the ones who beat the United States government. Hey, maybe in about 10 years I can get the Hal Freeman "Freedom Isn't Free" or Reuben Sturman award or even that Good Guy thing. Ahh fuck, I don't want anything except for maybe a little peace and quiet (and a Milos Forman directed movie about my life). Sincerely, Robert Zicari (a.k.a. Rob Black) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted April 10, 2003 Rob Black isnt his real name Damn, i'm so crushed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted April 10, 2003 So....um....is it illegal to make porn? Why couldn't they just have abducted Rob Black and left the wrestlers alone...well, maybe Douglas too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted April 10, 2003 So....um....is it illegal to make porn? Depends on the content Of course, if this was three months ago, I would have said its illegal to attempt to feed a dog to a snake, or hire two goons tocut a guys finger off, but i'm past that little stage now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoDriver 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2003 No, they would be... and good riddance to XPW...didn't they have a rape angle involving Lizzy Borden and Supreme or something like that? It was between GQ Money and Lizzy... and it was in horrible taste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted April 10, 2003 I thought for sure the thumb thing was illegal. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2003 And this coincides with what I heard int he Joey Styles interview on the 4/2 show of between the ropes. You can check that out at betweentheropes.com. Joey said that he had some differences with Shane Douglas and decided to part ways with him, and now he's doing the play by play for MLW, which from what I heard in the interview, is looking better and better now.... they're going the same route as ECW did, with late-night TV in some markets, but from what I heard about the talent their using and landing, if it stays on a steady track and does NOT make the mistakes that ECW did, in a year or two they just MIGHT make some serious noise.... Joey may be bombastic (nowhere near old Vince levels), but no one ever accused him of being stupid.. could it be that he saw what was going on and jumped ship before it went down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Miss Indy Queen Report post Posted April 11, 2003 I think maybe Joey had somewhat of an idea of what was going on and decided to bail out on the deal. XPW tried being something they're not (ECW) and fell flat on their faces. Joey has been working with MLW since their first show back in June at the ECW Arena doing their video commentary and so forth. I've been to their first 2 shows and the first was horrible but they definitely improved with the second one. I heard the one in December in Florida was good as well and their new one coming up sounds good too. If they can keep up with that streak they might make something of themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HBK16 Report post Posted April 12, 2003 XPW dead?? ....... YAY. BEST....NEWS....EVER!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted April 12, 2003 i know nobody probably has the answer so let me ask rhetorically: why would they be raided for the porn tapes? i mean they do heavy stuff but wasnt that widely known? ive seen specials on TV about their "extreme" nature maybe some udnerage involvement? thats the only thing i could guess edit: damn saturday is not a good day for my spelling abilities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted April 12, 2003 Depends on the obscenity laws of certain areas. But my guess is an underage person was on a video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites