Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted April 13, 2003 1 Anger Management $44,500,000/$44,500,000 2 Phone Booth $7,525,000/$26,623,000 3 What a Girl Wants $6,700,000/$20,402,000 4 Bringing Down the House $4,600,000/$117,700,000 5 A Man Apart $4,450,000/$18,268,000 6 Head of State $4,000,000/$30,900,000 7 House of 1000 Corpses $3,400,000/$3,400,000 8 Chicago $3,290,000/$156,933,923 9 The Core $3,225,000/$25,674,000 10 Basic $2,200,000/$23,839,000 11 Agent Cody Banks $1,650,000/$42,508,000 12 Piglet's Big Movie $1,400,000/$19,000,000 --------------------------------------------------- House of 1,000 Corpses (which I thought sucked) was only on 595 screens. Which is about 3,000 less then Anger Management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 I didn't think that Anger Management would do so well, but I'm glad it did! I saw it, and I loved it. As for House of 1000 Corpses, blah, I knew it would bomb. Sure, it wasn't on as many screens as other films, but there is a reason for that. I've asked local theaters just in my area (around ten or so), and almost none of them are playing it. I asked them why, and they all said that they didn't feel it was a strong enough film to give them a reason TO play it. House will be a box office failure (how much was production and marketing?), but I still say it will become a cult classic once it hits DVD and the such. Hell, it should have went right to video/dvd in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 13, 2003 How did House of 1K Corpses bomb if it was only on 600 screens and made 3 million? I'm sure it had a really good per screen average which is a true indicator of if the movie did well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 13, 2003 I didn't think that Anger Management would do so well, but I'm glad it did! I saw it, and I loved it. As for House of 1000 Corpses, blah, I knew it would bomb. Sure, it wasn't on as many screens as other films, but there is a reason for that. I've asked local theaters just in my area (around ten or so), and almost none of them are playing it. I asked them why, and they all said that they didn't feel it was a strong enough film to give them a reason TO play it. House will be a box office failure (how much was production and marketing?), but I still say it will become a cult classic once it hits DVD and the such. Hell, it should have went right to video/dvd in the first place. I think alot of it has to do with the fact that its through Lions Gate as well though.........I don't think that its just as cut and dry as its not a "strong enough film." Lions Gate was behind Rules of Attraction as well, and, like House, it wasn't released on as many screens as your typical film from, say, Universal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 13, 2003 How did House of 1K Corpses bomb if it was only on 600 screens and made 3 million? I'm sure it had a really good per screen average which is a true indicator of if the movie did well Exactly.......I was going to add this to my post after I submitted it, but no need to now. As far as costs for House, I think a fair estimate would be around 10 million, maybe (possibly a few more million, hard to say). I know production costs were around 8 or 9 million IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 How did House of 1K Corpses bomb if it was only on 600 screens and made 3 million? I'm sure it had a really good per screen average which is a true indicator of if the movie did well That is no way to say how good a film did or not. You have to take into consideration how much it cost to produce and market, etc... Then if theaters just refuse to even pick up the film, that is not a good sign as well. Certain films to better in certain areas, there are many factors on if it bombs or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Actually the per screen average is one of the strongest indicators of a films success..........alot of independant films start at the smaller level and if the results per screen yield a high success, it leaves room for the film to expand down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 13, 2003 How did House of 1K Corpses bomb if it was only on 600 screens and made 3 million? I'm sure it had a really good per screen average which is a true indicator of if the movie did well That is no way to say how good a film did or not. You have to take into consideration how much it cost to produce and market, etc... Then if theaters just refuse to even pick up the film, that is not a good sign as well. Certain films to better in certain areas, there are many factors on if it bombs or not. It absolutely is. If you put a film on 3,000 screens and it doesn't make like 15 million then obviously people had no interest in seeing the movie. But if you're on 600 screens and selling out then it shows there is truly a genuine interest in seeing the movie and thus it was a success. And if people keep seeing it then you can expend it to more screens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Actually the per screen average is one of the strongest indicators of a films success..........alot of independant films start at the smaller level and if the results per screen yield a high success, it leaves room for the film to expand down the road. Obviously it's a factor, but it isn't THE factor. This film though just had some theaters just refuse to play it, while indy films usually try out certain markets first, and then on it's on decide to expand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted April 13, 2003 The budget for House of 1K Corpses was only 7 million so I think the movie is going to end up being a box office success Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Actually the per screen average is one of the strongest indicators of a films success..........alot of independant films start at the smaller level and if the results per screen yield a high success, it leaves room for the film to expand down the road. This film though just had some theaters just refuse to play it lol........so you're telling me you went to all of these theaters in your area, talked to all of the respective managers, and found this out? With all due respect, I find your story hard to believe. But assuming its true, that is a LOOSE generalization of why this isn't on more screens. You may just happen to be in a particular area where films like this never sell in the first place, etc. Like I said, the fact that the film is released by Lions Gate (a predominantly Canadian company I believe) may also have something to do with it also. I've never seen a Lions Gate film get thick penetration in theaters across the states here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Actually the per screen average is one of the strongest indicators of a films success..........alot of independant films start at the smaller level and if the results per screen yield a high success, it leaves room for the film to expand down the road. This film though just had some theaters just refuse to play it lol........so you're telling me you went to all of these theaters in your area, talked to all of the respective managers, and found this out? With all due respect, I find your story hard to believe. But assuming its true, that is a LOOSE generalization of why this isn't on more screens. You may just happen to be in a particular area where films like this never sell in the first place, etc. Like I said, the fact that the film is released by Lions Gate (a predominantly Canadian company I believe) may also have something to do with it also. I've never seen a Lions Gate film get thick penetration in theaters across the states here. I CALLED each theater in my area that was not playing this film and asked them, yes. Each of them basicly said the same thing. The theater that usally plays EVERYTHING (it's running DysFunKtional Family right now) didn't even play this one. I'm actually rather shocked about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TUS_02 Report post Posted April 13, 2003 I think considering there was a point where House didn't look like it was going to GET a theater release, I bet Zombie and crew are fucking estatic that it's doing as well as they did. Personally, I wasn't too thrilled with the movie, but I was the guy surrounded in the hype for the past however long it's been hyped... but I'm glad it broke the top 10. Im also glad Phone Booth stayed strong at second place, but that's going to change with Bulletproof Monk out next week... Lastly... 44 MILLION?!?!?! I'm impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted April 13, 2003 House cost $7 million to make, so it's already half way to breaking even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Also... "Better Luck Tomorrow" - $400,000 Next Week's Box Office Top 10 Prediction: 1. Anger Management 2. Bulletproof Monk 3. Malibu's Most Wanted (People want to see B-Rad. Don't Be Hatin). 4. Phone Booth 5. Bringing Down The House 6. What A Girl Wants 7. Holes 8. A Man Apart 9. Chicago 10. House Of 1000 Corpses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Hasn't Phone Booth already made about 30 times what it cost to make? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Hasn't Phone Booth already made about 30 times what it cost to make? Phone Booth cost around $38Mil, $13Mil in production, and $25 in marketing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 13, 2003 Hasn't Phone Booth already made about 30 times what it cost to make? Phone Booth cost around $38Mil, $13Mil in production, and $25 in marketing. I thought Shumacher said it cost well under $1 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted April 13, 2003 IMDB has the budget at $10 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 13, 2003 IMDB has the budget at $10 million. IMDB is full how horse manure much of the time also, heh. I got it at www.boxofficemojo.com so take your pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 13, 2003 IMDB has the budget at $10 million. Okay. So it still will make a good profit. That's all I want. We need more original low-budget films and less recycled Hollywood dreck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted April 14, 2003 Bulletproof Monk in 2nd place next week?? Have you seen the trailers? That movie looks pathetic. I'd say 5th place is more likely. I can't wait to see what the drop off for House is next week. So far I've seen ONE person like it. ONE. A movie like this COULD become a hit off good word of mouth, but there is no good word of mouth. 99.99999 percent of the people that see it, hate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted April 14, 2003 So far I've seen ONE person like it. ONE. I liked it. That makes TWO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted April 14, 2003 "Bulletproof Monk in 2nd place next week?? Have you seen the trailers? That movie looks pathetic. I'd say 5th place is more likely." ... Anger Management had what I regard as one of the unfunniest previews in the history of film...and it made 45 mil. People are stupid. People will pay to see crap. The crappier it looks...the wider audience it will find. That stupid preview for Anger Management...it shows just why I hate people. The whole theater started laughing when Adam Sandler came on and he hadn't even done anything but sit there. People are stupid, and if your movie looks to be equally stupid...people will come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted April 14, 2003 "People are stupid. People will pay to see crap. The crappier it looks...the wider audience it will find." Um... I want to see "Bulletproof Monk". Does that make me stupid ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted April 14, 2003 I didn't think Bullet Proof Munk looked nearly as bad as Anger Management. I'm just saying that you can't judge how much a movie will make based on how bad it looks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 14, 2003 Just like you can't tell if a movie is good or not based on the trailers. Besides, the trailers for Anger Management weren't nearly as bad as you're making them out to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted April 14, 2003 The fact is...none of us have yet to see "Bulletproof Monk". We don't know if it's good or not, we'll have to wait till Wednesday to find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 14, 2003 Well it won't be anything amazing, but it could be an entertaining movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted April 14, 2003 How does Bulletproof Monk compare to Anger Management? I'm supposed to be shocked that a movie starring Adam Sandler AND Jack Nicholson makes 45 million? The trailer didn't mean anything to that movie. All they had to do was announce the cast and the money was rolling in. What WILL surprise me is a very childish looking movie with some of the worst FX I've ever seen, some of the corniest beat in the ground wire action I've ever seen and a cast list heading by Chow Yun Fat, Stifler and that chick that died in Pearl Harbor and used to date Kid Rock makes money. No, I don't have to wait till Wednesday to know I don't like the movie. I've read review, I've seen the trailers, I read all about it during production....I never want to see this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites