Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Ok, when you reply to this I want you to remain in the thinking that WWE has 100% totally decided that Goldberg will win the World Championship at that June (I believe it's June) RAW exclusive PPV. I know many of you do not want that, but let's just work with this, let me hear your view on KNOWING that Goldberg will win it at that PPV, regardless of who he faces. Now, I guess part of this is my praying to God that Booker T does win the championship on Monday, simply because I might be going down to watch it live. At every show I've ever been to, something "major" has happened, and it would be cool as hell if I went down once again, to see Booker T defeat HHH. I know it isn't going to happen more than likely, but still. I would love to see Booker T win it, and it would be a nice change. To be honest, does the entire Nash/HBK/HHH angle really even NEED the World Championship involved? If they go into a full fledged feud, the title will not be the issue in the first place, so why even have it involved? Why not have Booker T pull out a huge upset finally, only to go on and to feud with Chris Jericho for the title? While I would love for this to happen, it brings me to this... ...if WWE is totally determined to let Goldberg have his reign, would it even be worth it for Booker T to win it right now? Now obviously WWE would want Goldberg to go against a huge heel for the title, but if Booker T wins it there are only a few ways they could go. One being Booker T wins it, only to drop is BACK to HHH in short time meaning that Booker T's first reign would be short as hell. I know that no one really wants that to happen, I know I don't. When he wins it, I'd like to see him keep it for a while. The other way they could go is to have Booker T be the heel against Goldberg I suppose, but I really don't see that one happening. I just don't see WHY Booker T would win the title right now, if they are so determined to allow Goldberg his shot so soon. Would you rather Booker T grab it now only to drop it very soon, or would you rather them wait before pulling the trigger on it? I hope all of this makes sense and you get what I'm saying, I really do, heh. Sincerely, ...Downhome... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Well...Assuming Goldberg is CERTAIN to win the title at Blood...The best Choice is CLEARLY to NOT hand the title over to Booker for a meaningless 2 week run... It only cheapens Him and The title along with HHH. It means more if Goldberg beats the guy who held the title since September save for a 2 week grace period...as opposed to a guy who just won the title back.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Well...Assuming Goldberg is CERTAIN to win the title at Blood...The best Choice is CLEARLY to NOT hand the title over to Booker for a meaningless 2 week run... It only cheapens Him and The title along with HHH. It means more if Goldberg beats the guy who held the title since September save for a 2 week grace period...as opposed to a guy who just won the title back.. Those are my thoughts on this exactly. I was just currious if anyone here thinks it would be a good thing to actually have Booker T to win it anyway, even though Goldberg will get it soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Why can't Booker win the title then Goldberg move to HHH after Rock? That would give Booker a two month and two week title reign...right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I agree with you Downhome on the Booker T becoming a transitional champ. Problem I have is, how long will Goldberg have the title before Triple H screws him out of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Of course we want Booker to win the title...Hell we'll take another non-clique member at this conjecture. But we want it to be meaingful... Jericho's even was Meaningful...Booker's won't... HHH won't even let people remember that his best friend beat him and held the title for two weeks...thinks he cares about Booker T. Huffman... No one would ever remember that he was the champion...I promise you many don't even recall hbk with the title... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I think there's gonna be a false finish ala Jericho's phantom reign. I actually wouldn't mind that, because I know if they actually give him a title reign right now he'll become the fall guy for low ratings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Hey Downhome, does the word spoiler mean anything to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I see no need for spoiler. Is it confirmed that Book gets it? I've not seen it. And DH didn't present it as a news fact that I saw, either. It's a question about a possible scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted April 15, 2003 And in Keith's rant he says HHH has specifically said he'll drop it to Nash and Nash alone, but I don't know his source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest humongous2002 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 HHHitler will only drop the fake belt to one of his buddies, if it was up to him he would rather drop it to Xpac than Book or RVD. Right now HHH is waiting for Goldberg to bomb, he is probably on Vince's ears all the time telling him that Goldberg can't draw anymore, that the ratings hasn't improved and that Goldberg is worthless, since it's not the first time he's done this stuff it wouldn't make any sense why he wouldn't do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Space_Cowboy Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Even if Booker somehow did win the belt it would be after a Nash powerbomb on HHH or something like that, with Booker crawling over to cover after it, so that the heat will be on Nash for costing HHH the belt rather than Booker winning it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Hey Downhome, does the word spoiler mean anything to you? Yes, but too bad it isn't needed here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I don't think Goldberg will win it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Goldberg and Crips don't NEED the World Title to have a headline match. Despite the smarts hating him, Triple H is still viewed as a viable main eventer in the casual fans eyes. This is a dream match to them. That said, Booker will probably NOT get the belt, due to some botched Kliq interference (continuity from last night). If he does get the belt, then I can foresee some gimmick like after the 6 man is over, Nash and/or Michaels request title shots. Either way, a reign would be a bad idea for book. They won't put faith into anyone except the short term draws (I'm looking at YOU, Bill) or the long term assholes (Kliq-dicks). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Dunno if this is the right Place to ask but Do U think Flair will try to play himself with HHH to get one of those "Flair for the Gold" runs again? The fans are BEGGING to love Flair again...I say it would be a summer program if they would give the title to cocky Jericho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 15, 2003 HHH: Booker, people like you aren't championship material. Need any more reasons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Is there a Kliq Waiting list or something? What are the Requirements to join? Shouldn't Jericho break on through soon enough? He is publically great friends with Shawn, He always seems to be on good terms with Hunts...So Why hasn't he broke in the group yet? He meets the requirements...Good Hair Care and Umm....Good Hair Care... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Jerky has one quality that keeps him from getting in: He is singlehandedly more over than the three of them combined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Jerky has one quality that keeps him from getting in: He is singlehandedly more over than the three of them combined. And therein lies why he'll never join the Kliq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 It's sad really. Jericho should form his own Kliq. Gather the super talented mid-card around himself and start letting it be known that they know they provide the real talent for the show. Though, Jericho is happy with his place so that'll never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I'll never understand why someone reading a wrestling discussion message forum would complain about "spoilers." If you don't want to know something about a wrestling show, then don't read a wrestling board where people will obviously be *shock* talking about wrestling! How ignorant. Anyway, no one really answered my post. Would you guys be as opposed to Booker winning the title if he got it for a little over two months as opposed to just a two week reign? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I really wouldn't want to see Book as a transitional champ. 3 months + is really where it stops being transitional for me and gets into meaningful territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Other than Triple H, not too many WWE champions have reigns that last all that long. Well, up until recently that is. We'll see how long Brock holds the title and how long whomever HHH drops the title to holds it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack Potts Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I agree with Mr. Malibu. HHH and Goldberg have a deepseated resentment for one another that could easily be played up as grist for the feud. Also, even the most ardent HHHater or or anti-Goldbergian ( we need a pithy nickname for him) would have to agree that both are over enough to have a main event feud that doesn't revolve around the title belt. (Austin, Rock and even Undertaker are big enough stars to carry a ME-level feud that doesn't focus on the title belt. If he believes in himself as much as he wants us to, and Vince seems to, HHH should try to wean himself off the belt to see if he can do the same.) The HBK/Kevin Nash/HHH angle playing out now does not require Booker T's involvement, either. Booker T and Jericho should have gone over their respective opponents at Wrestlemania XIX, and then gone on to feud with one another. Unfortunately, that would have required one of these two competitors losing. However, I'm convinced Jericho has that super-elastic Kane-like heat that always springs back to it's previous level no matter what sort of nightmarish scenario they put him through. So in a Booker/Jericho feud, Booker would have to come out on top. However, both would definitely come out looking stronger than they did when they feuded with HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Jericho's heat is indeed made from whatever the stuff is they make starships out of in Star Trek. That super metal that can only be hurt by phasers and quantun torpedoes. Indestructable, almost, by today's standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Not to rain on your parade, but I think you should be grateful if that title match next week has a finish, period. It'll just end up with The Only 3 Important Wrestlers In The Universe jerking off. I'm expecting like the RVD/HBK deal where there was a 4 minute match and then RVD slid under the ring or something so HHH could cut a promo. PS - Anyone else think they only made this match so residual Booker/WCW love in Atlanta could sell some extra tickets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I think that a transitional title reign would really hurt Booker in the long run. Forget about the belt itself, because in his never-ended quest to keep it (by hook or by crook, or by whispering in Vince's ear), HHH has devalued it. Ric Flair came close to doing it himself with his "hold on to the belt for a year, drop it to the hottest face, then gain it back in 1-2 months" routine. That in itself was the one thing that used to royally piss me off about NWA/WCW when Flair was "the man", never mind the fact that he did not win clean a hell of a lot more than he did. But I digress. But now we are seeing that same routine with HHH, but only a whole lot more ruthless and a lot more vicious. And that's just backstage. But as much hating as I do on him for his antics, I blame Vince more for falling for it. But I guess its hard to think on your own when you've got your daughter whispering in one ear and your future son-in-law in the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest magell Report post Posted April 16, 2003 The way they should play it is have HHH lose to Booker T cleanly. HHH wants a shot at the title but can't get it. At Backlash in the six man Nash costs his team the match when he hits Booker T. Booker gets pissed and he feuds with Nash and Booker either wins or loses it doesn't matter while HHH feuds with Goldberg til the next PPV. Goldberg could then face off against Nash or Booker depending on which one they want to turn heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 16, 2003 If you don't want to know something about a wrestling show, then don't read a wrestling board where people will obviously be *shock* talking about wrestling! How ignorant. Just because one talks about wrestling, doesn't mean you have to spew out spoilers (not saying that DH was) for those who do not want to know. Going into a Smackdown spoiler would be ignorant, yes, but simply going to message board to discuss wrestling wouldn't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites