Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 15, 2003 I was thinking about this some last night. I think and most of us can agree the WWE is only good when they have competition to fight against, since WCW and ECW to a smaller extent went belly up, the WWF story lines just stagnanted and wrestling suffered. Creativity just went down in how to get people's attention. They tried to improve it with laxing up on allowable moves, but then HHH tripped and tore his quad so suddenly no more of those Dangerous Vertebrakers and Emerald Fusions heh. Then Vince tried to bring interest back by making a Invasion of WCW Wrestlers, those whom already got their contracts bought out by the WWF intially to invade. Invasion idea was about to get interesting when the ECW Invasion, those current Contracted ECW wrestlers as well as Tommy Dreamer and RVD made a break. But they royally fucked it up by Meshing ECW in with the Blah WCW group. Of course then there was the ECW trademark ranglings which caused the whole Alliance crap. Another thing they did to kill it was that they made it screw up because the WWF Wrestlers proclaimed that the Alliance wrestlers were screwing up their business and taking food away from their families.....So when the WCW matches were occuring with Bagwell and Booker T, they get booed out of the Arena! Was a big messy fiasco that didn't help matters. What im trying to get at is that WWE is still slowly...very slowly sliding down the tude. And they need an effective solution, Rehiring Hogan, Nash, Hall and reforming the nWo did cause a Blip....then they fucked that all up anyway, fired off Boozy and Reformed the nWo three times before finally calling it quits. Then they Push a little known Farm fed wrestler Brock to the Moon and in order to separate him from the possibility of feuding with HHH, they did that Roster spliting crap. Titles suddenly disappear, and the remaining titles have few contenders to fight against. So there is no longer much of a interest in anything....... Then Steiner was brought in to save the WWE. Heh lot of good that did. Goldberg...and Ohhh Sting..WOW they will save the WWE! Its nice to know the WWE has bought that canned Chant equipment in order to Push Goldberg. And I guess Born again Sting will Work for Satan McMahon as long as the sinful Money of Caesar is good for the Holy one. So wheres the Solution.... How about this idea... Its a Longshot, maybe a dumb one, and Vince probably wouldn't do it in a Billion Years... Prop up NWA TNA! dats right like Vince did for ECW in a certain extent, how about they prop up NWA TNA. Its obvious that TNA is the only viable competion out there, but is still only on the brink of National Acclaim, a hour show on PPV weekly won't get it done. How do they do this? Maybe have cross Promotional Events.. WWE Wrestlers go on their Weekly TNA ppv and TNA wrestlers go on Raw and Smackdown. And to make it fair, neither side will win any titles, and they will have a even number of wins and losses so neither side would look bad. And under the table the WWE can support TNA to get them a weekly show on USA or somewheres a couple of 2 hour shows weekly beats having to pay for it. Then after a while the WWE can stop holding their hand and let them run on their own. TNA might beat out WWE in the ratings for a while but that in the long run will benfit the WWE and force them to kick start their Wrestling promotion and stop producing the Shit they been doing... Well thats my hypothis. Mull over it for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ViciousFish Report post Posted April 15, 2003 Its not a horrible idea. Interpromotional things I sure would be ok for a quick boost but look at the TNA movests and the WWE movesets. They wouldn't match at all. Vince wouldn't let any of his 'boys' take a cradle piledriver, Styles Clash or anything else remotley dangerous. It would just end up watering down TNA which would probably make it worse in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted April 15, 2003 No chance, by helping TNA, Vince might give them the push needed to actually compete with, and eventually overtake the WWE. Vince's ego will never allow him to have the #2 worldwide wrestling federation again. Even though a viable alternative would help the wrestling industry as a whole, and thereby generating even more revenue, Vince would rather hold the rest down. Competition helped the industry during the Monday Night wars, number one by keeping everybody on their toes for new ideas, and number two by allowing fans to click over to another show while remaining in wrestling if they didn't like what they were seeing on one. But Vince wouldn't likely see it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted April 16, 2003 And under the table the WWE can support TNA to get them a weekly show on USA or somewheres a couple of 2 hour shows weekly beats having to pay for it. Then after a while the WWE can stop holding their hand and let them run on their own. TNA might beat out WWE in the ratings for a while but that in the long run will benfit the WWE and force them to kick start their Wrestling promotion and stop producing the Shit they been doing... So, what you're saying is that if NWA "gets over" w/ the casual fans and becomes a success, Vince will step back & let them take care of themselves? Somehow, I don't see that happening. Sure, we can see that it would be good business for Vince to have competition, but Vince doesn't see it that way. He would see a threat, and would just buy-out/absorb NWA, rather than let them go up against his creation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Well in a sense NWA TNA is what ECW was back in the day........a farm fed for underused or troubled workers to develop their talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 16, 2003 This was already asked to (I believe) linda mcmahon - she said they are too busy rebuilding themselves and it wouldn't benefit TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted April 16, 2003 The problem with NWA/TNA is they long ago have up on trying to have a different type of wrestling program and now come off as bush league WWE wannabes whereas ECW was an entirely different commodity to those who watch it from the early days and actually ECW's influence helped mold and shape what eventually became the WWE's "attitude era" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I still don't get how they're WWE wannabes when the top people that get match time and pushes are CRUISERWEIGHTS. What's the main event tonight? Christopher Daniels and Elix Skipper vs. Jerry Lynn and Red? Yeah...this is WWE redux! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I know wrestling is the ultimate "never say never", but I'd be shocked to see McMahon's working with Jarrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 16, 2003 It'll never happen while Vince is still in a position of power. Vince has "won" and is "master of the wrestling world". You honestly think Vincent Kennedy McMahon is going to give that up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest j.o.b. squad Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Its not a horrible idea. Interpromotional things I sure would be ok for a quick boost but look at the TNA movests and the WWE movesets. They wouldn't match at all. Vince wouldn't let any of his 'boys' take a cradle piledriver, Styles Clash or anything else remotley dangerous. It would just end up watering down TNA which would probably make it worse in the long run. crash holly did use the styles clash a few times right after the had him be the "who is jumping from raw to sd" swerve and they tried to push him as a ligit cruiser. before they realised we lost all respect for him during the late 24/7 era as well as him jobing to jacquiline on heat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Another thing they did to kill it was that they made it screw up because the WWF Wrestlers proclaimed that the Alliance wrestlers were screwing up their business and taking food away from their families.....So when the WCW matches were occuring with Bagwell and Booker T, they get booed out of the Arena! Was a big messy fiasco that didn't help matters. Dude, the fans weren't booing because of what the WWF Wrestlers said about "money and family".. they were booing because that Booker/Bagwell match was FUCKING HORRIBLE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 Another thing they did to kill it was that they made it screw up because the WWF Wrestlers proclaimed that the Alliance wrestlers were screwing up their business and taking food away from their families.....So when the WCW matches were occuring with Bagwell and Booker T, they get booed out of the Arena! Was a big messy fiasco that didn't help matters. Dude, the fans weren't booing because of what the WWF Wrestlers said about "money and family".. they were booing because that Booker/Bagwell match was FUCKING HORRIBLE! thats where I said Messy fiasco of a match LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted April 16, 2003 I still don't get how they're WWE wannabes when the top people that get match time and pushes are CRUISERWEIGHTS. What's the main event tonight? Christopher Daniels and Elix Skipper vs. Jerry Lynn and Red? Yeah...this is WWE redux! But Daniels, Skipper, Lynn, and Red aren't the top card guys for NWA:TNA as far as getting serious pushes are concerned. Regardless if they main event a show or not, they aren't any better off push wise than Rey Mysterio is in WWE. TNA had a chance to really distinguish itself by putting the main strap on Styles, but with Jarrett, D'Lo, and Raven now the uppercard... its WWE midcard returns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted April 16, 2003 What a horrible idea. Prop up a different company that's business model completely sucks. (mind you, i said BUSINESS MODEL, not content or wrestlers so dont flame) Yes, the WWE was better when they had competition because competition pushes you. BUT, competition could also pass you or eat into your sales, etc. Its not always good. Manufacturing competition is a horrid idea. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted April 16, 2003 "But Daniels, Skipper, Lynn, and Red aren't the top card guys for NWA:TNA as far as getting serious pushes are concerned. Regardless if they main event a show or not, they aren't any better off push wise than Rey Mysterio is in WWE. TNA had a chance to really distinguish itself by putting the main strap on Styles, but with Jarrett, D'Lo, and Raven now the uppercard... its WWE midcard returns. " I disagree with that tenflod. Jarrett wrestles like once a month for reasons I don't understand. D-Lo isn't even getting pushed now and they only gave him a quick one to try and get something out of him since he's a name people know. Meanwhile, the X division guys continue to get the spotlight every other week. I think Daniels/Skipper/Low Ki have main evented more shows since they returned than anyone else. Plus, Styles and Lynn probably have the most detailed storylines in the company right now. To call them WWE light because they picked up Raven and D-Lo just isn't right in my mind. When TNA stops focusing on Sonny Siaki (who I don't even really like...but it helps my point), America's Most Wanted and the X division...then maybe I'll understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
