Guest Report post Posted March 23, 2002 Does anybody know what the political viewpoints are of each band? I also heard they both have got some of their songs get refused or pulled off the air by radio stations becasue of the message? Anyone know anything about this? Also I have heard Tenacious D held a concert and ripped on the lyrics to SOAD's "Chop Suey" song. Does anyone know what happened there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 23, 2002 I don't know about System but Tom Morello is a member of the Communist party. Rage typically questions the subjugation of marginalized groups caused by capitalist leaders. Many of their songs protest injustices caused by the core industrial nations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted March 23, 2002 I thought Tom Morello was a member of the Socialist party...I know Zach was/is. Tim just plays bass, Brad just plays drums...Tom and Zach were the political ones... I think System Of A Down just pretty much bashes any nation or corporation that tries to use brainwashing. And why bash "Chop Suey!"? The lyrics are dumb, and I'm pretty sure Serj knows this...that's probably the only song off of Toxicity that doesn't make any fucking sense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 24, 2002 well all the members of SOAD are of Armenian heritage, so there really into sopporting small third world countries. same with RATM. Zach was really into crimes commited by religous groups and the american intelligince organizations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 24, 2002 I thought Tom Morello was a member of the Socialist party...I know Zach was/is. Tim just plays bass, Brad just plays drums...Tom and Zach were the political ones... I think System Of A Down just pretty much bashes any nation or corporation that tries to use brainwashing. And why bash "Chop Suey!"? The lyrics are dumb, and I'm pretty sure Serj knows this...that's probably the only song off of Toxicity that doesn't make any fucking sense... So they don't care about politics at all? That's strange...playing for such a politcal band and not having a real stand. Brainwashing? Like how do you mean Cor? I think Chop Suey! is serious. They do songs like Pogo Stick that are light hearted but Chop Suey! sounds nothing like that to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 24, 2002 And does any know of any any web pages that I can read indepth about there beleifs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted March 24, 2002 Well, I could see how you COULD think "Chope Suey!" is serious, thinking it's more of a social-view (for all I know, it could be about transgendered males*)... * = Let's look at the lyrics, shall we? Wake up! Grab a brush and put on a little makeup! (Grab the brush and put on a little) Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup! (Hide the scars to fade away the) Why'd you leave the keys upon table? Here you go, create another fable! YOU WANTED TO! Grab a brush and put on a little makeup! YOU WANTED TO! Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup! YOU WANTED TO! Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? YOU WANTED TO! I don't think you trust In my self righteous suicide I cry when angels deserve to DIE!!!!!!! ....FATHER! FATHER! FATHER! FATHER! Father, into your hands, I commend my spirit Father, into your hands Why have you forsaken me? In your eyes, forsaken me? In your thoughts, forsaken me? In your heart, forsaken...me?! Trust in my self righteous suicide! I cry when angels deserve to die! ...In my self righteous suicide... I CRY when angels deserve to die... It could be about a cross-dresser for all we know. The lyrics make little to no fucking sense to anybody but Serj. As for Tim and Brad of RATM, do you really need to have a political view to be in a band? I'm sure they just liked the way all of them blended together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 25, 2002 "As for Tim and Brad of RATM, do you really need to have a political view to be in a band? I'm sure they just liked the way all of them blended together." This is true. I haven't heard of any political stance by Chris Cornell but they're jamming out. Another example would be the BEatles. John Lennon was very political (even before Yoko Ono) and they still kept playing music. I don't remember Ringo Starr ever writing a politically conscious song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted March 25, 2002 I do so love repetitive bands who are fading out, so they turn up the politics and pander to all the "stylishly concerned" college kids. good way to stay in the marketplace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted March 25, 2002 Oh, I do SO love musicians who want to tell me all about how evil and bad a certain group or government is. *sigh* There are far too many naive college kids who love Rage to suit my tastes. You people DESERVE idiots like Fred Durst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 25, 2002 "*sigh* There are far too many naive college kids who love Rage to suit my tastes. You people DESERVE idiots like Fred Durst." What does Fred Durst have to do with liking Rage? And why does being a Rage fan immediately make somebody a naive college kid? Could it be that the music is actually..you know...good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KOR420 Report post Posted March 25, 2002 Rage is pretty much dead now,there frontman is chris cornell from soundgarden,there is no way he will replace de la rocha,is he gonna do a spoonman rap,i wonder how rage will be different,will cornell offer political views? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 25, 2002 This is true. I haven't heard of any political stance by Chris Cornell but they're jamming out. Another example would be the BEatles. John Lennon was very political (even before Yoko Ono) and they still kept playing music. I don't remember Ringo Starr ever writing a politically conscious song. Yes but if I was in a band that sung songs putting down capitalism all the time and I didn't agree with it...I wouldn't be in it anymore. That's like saying there's a white supremacy band out there and you don't like white supremacy. But you get invited to try out and you sound good with them...are you going to take the spot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted March 26, 2002 racism and capitalism are two completely different concepts. one's based on hate and ignorance. the other is based on greed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted March 26, 2002 I'm pretty sure you missed the point there. What I think he was getting at is that if the band you were in started singing about things you didn't believe in ... why would would want to continue to be a part of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Daredevil21 Report post Posted March 29, 2002 And why bash "Chop Suey!"? The lyrics are dumb, and I'm pretty sure Serj knows this...that's probably the only song off of Toxicity that doesn't make any fucking sense... You seem to be forgetting about the song about a pogo stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted March 29, 2002 RATM is full of shit. I read somewhere that the old lead singer was always spotted in Hollywood in a brand new SUV. They also seem to have no problems making money from there albums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 29, 2002 Their website can help to shed some light on his views here's the link... http://www.systemofadown.com/ There's no reason that all members of a band need to have the same views. Just because they don't believe in the same stuff doesn't mean they are strongly against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 2, 2002 all I remember was the American Indian uprising from North Dakota in the RATM video "Freedom" wanting to free the political leader. And Zach de Rocha supporting the Mexican Guerilla Rebels in southern part of the country. Then the free concert at the policial nomination party hq. not sure about SOAD views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
