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Which Soul Calibur 2 are you getting?

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

Hey I was wondering which Soul Calibur 2 everyone was getting? I mean they each have a different hidden character so you have to pick the one with the character you want.

I have a choice between the PS2 and Gamecube one. I'm of course getting the Gamecube one so I can be Link. I mean yeah Hei-Haichi(sp?).....I mean why don't i just play Tekken?

I wish I had an X-Box though......Spawn would be awesome.

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Guest Sakura

The console specific characters are not hidden.

 

 

I will be getting PS2. Best controller and Heihachi is the least stupid out of all 3 out of place novelty characters.

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Guest EQ
I will be getting PS2. Best controller and Heihachi is the least stupid out of all 3 out of place novelty characters.

Least stupid?!

 

He doesn't even have a weapon!

 

Gamecube version for me. Link is too bad ass. If I weren't getting the Cube version, it would be X-Box all the way. Spawn looks nasty. I might even pick up the X-Box version cheap sometime down the line just to have it. Screw Heihachi.

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Guest Lightning Flik

Considering I've got both PS2 and GC, I could get either one.

 

But let's be serious. Link or Hei? I'll take Link any day.

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Guest Sakura
Least stupid?!

 

He doesn't even have a weapon!

At least old man Hei is from another Namco fighting game so it makes sense in a cameo kind of way.

 

 

Link is an elf from a classic Nintendo series! It's ridiculous! Not only is he out of place just by being well, Link, he LOOKS out of place. His model and art look nothing like the other SC characters. It's freakin terrible.

 

 

I hate all 3 novelty characters.

 

When they put Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur they completely changed his look and made him a SC character. It wasn't Yoshimitsu from Tekken in SC. It was Yoshi from Tekken redesigned to be a SC character. That rules. This does not.

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Guest WukenBloodstar
The console specific characters are not hidden.

 

 

I will be getting PS2. Best controller and Heihachi is the least stupid out of all 3 out of place novelty characters.

I don't see how you can feel that Spawn is stupid and Heihachi isn't, personally..for me. The X-Box controller is best since I have big hands, I find it extremely hard to play anything on PSW without a different controller..it's just too small, I can close my whole fist around it. I think Heihachi would be the stupidest of the three "Console" characters, one of the least would be Link and then Spawn.

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Guest Cavi

PS2 version here. GC is on the outs for me, as I really don't care for the controller, and that D-Pad would be ugh to the max for a fighting game.

 

From watching some vids, Link's model looks out of proportion to the other characters.

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Guest EQ

Least stupid?!

 

He doesn't even have a weapon!

At least old man Hei is from another Namco fighting game so it makes sense in a cameo kind of way.

 

 

Link is an elf from a classic Nintendo series! It's ridiculous! Not only is he out of place just by being well, Link, he LOOKS out of place. His model and art look nothing like the other SC characters. It's freakin terrible.

 

 

I hate all 3 novelty characters.

 

When they put Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur they completely changed his look and made him a SC character. It wasn't Yoshimitsu from Tekken in SC. It was Yoshi from Tekken redesigned to be a SC character. That rules. This does not.

Just because he's a Namco character doesn't mean that he's any less out of place than the other characters. Personally, I think that the fact that he doesn't have a weapon makes him more out of place than Spawn or Link in a *weapons-based* fighting game. I don't know where they got Spawn from, but at least they gave him an Axe (I don't know anything about Spawn, so if he uses an axe normally, forgive my ignorance).

 

I was looking at videos of Link in SCII, and I don't think he looks out of place at all really. The only thing that people might have a problem with are his bombs, arrows and boomerangs. Since nobody else in the game has any kind of projectiles (to my knowledge), that might seem out of place, but they are classic Link weapons, and people would have wondered why they weren't there.

 

Maybe Link doesn't "belong" in the Soul Calibur series, but that doesn't mean that Heihachi does.

 

You said that they completely redesigned Yoshimitsu to be a Soul Calibur character. They did it with Link. Whether you like him in the game or not, they have fit him into the series nicely. They should have done that with someone else for the PS2 version. Let's face it, they had cool characters to throw into the Gamecube and X-Box versions and when it came to the PS2 version they were like... "FUCK! Who are we going to put in here?!" Yoshimitsu worked because he had a sword. Just grabbing another random Tekken character and throwing them into SC2 is dumb.

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Guest KoR Fungus

I'm getting the PS2 version because all I have is a PS2. If I had other systems, I'd get the PS2 version anyway because I already have an Hori stick for PS2 and there's no reason for me to buy an adapter to play with a different poorly balanced thrown in character. I find all of the console specific characters to be pretty stupid, but Heihachi was the least objectionable. At least I can mark out for him a little bit since I'm a big Tekken fan. I dislike both Link and Spawn and found Spawn's moveset to be very boring. Heihachi was moderately fun to play, so he wins by default.

 

I'm totally with Sakura about the stupidity of the console characters. Of all the extras they added, I like the novelty characters the least. Hopefully my scrub friends will get tired of them quickly and move on to the real characters that are actually well balanced and that actually fit the game.

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Guest Sakura

They did not redesign Link. He is Link from OOT pasted into SC II. He looks just like he always does: like a cartoonish elf. It's absolutely ridiculous. He is short, his model doesn't look like the other's, and he doesn't even have the same style of art as the other's. His match up graphic is so ugly when facing up against a real character. He looks absurd in game. He isn't even proportioned right, in addition to being really short.

 

 

I am not putting Hei over! He is the least stupid out of 3 stupid additions. Not having a weapon is far less ridiculous that being a freakin elf with bombs from a classic adventure series! At least Heihachi is a Namco fighting game icon and looks serious. Plus Hei is infinitely cooler than Link and Spawn. The man threw his son into a volcano. He is an awesome character in Tekken. It's the less of 3 evils.

 

 

It sucks that Link from the Legend of Zelda, comic book Spawn, and Heihachi from Tekken is in SC II but Li Long is not.

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Guest WukenBloodstar

Spawn I don't mind, Link either. My problem is having Heihachi in SC II, having one character from Tekken was okay, but Heihachi..there are better characters from the awful Tekken series you could use.

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Guest EQ
They did not redesign Link. He is Link from OOT pasted into SC II. He looks just like he always does: like a cartoonish elf. It's absolutely ridiculous. He is short, his model doesn't look like the other's, and he doesn't even have the same style of art as the other's. His match up graphic is so ugly when facing up against a real character. He looks absurd in game. He isn't even proportioned right, in addition to being really short.

The only thing I agree with you on is the match-up graphic.

 

The way he looks, they took him from OoT and put him in the game. This is what Link looks like. What would you have liked them to make him look like for SC? I don't think he looks cartoony at all, personally, I think he fits right in. I can't really tell from the images I'm looking at right now whether he's too short, but it looks fine to me.

 

The whole idea of these 3 novelty characters is that they are just that: novelty characters. Who says they have to fit in perfectly with the rest of them. They are there as treats for the gamers. I see no problem with this. Look at some of the rediculous charaters there are in the Tekken games. A huge bear, that weird thing with the snake for an arm, a dinosaur, a kangaroo and yes, a big piece of WOOD that fights.

 

If you can tolerate these things, I don't see why Link bothers you so much.

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Guest KoR Fungus

Kuma, Unknown, Roger, Alex and Mokujin all fight like Tekken characters, that's one thing. The only one of the three SC2 extra characters that actually fights anything like an SC character is Spawn. Novelty characters that don't fit the game have always annoyed me. That's true of Heihachi and Link here, and of other dumb "bonuses" like Gon and Dr. B. I'd rather them not be in the game.

 

I agree with Sakura about Link's look, and about Spawn's as well. The artistic style doesn't match the game, and it really sticks out. Having a cartoon walking around and fighting against gritty, realistic looking characters just looks really stupid. Heihachi at least is rendered in the same style as the rest of the characters, so he's not nearly as much of an eyesore.

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Guest DVD Spree

ALready got the GC version and it's THE SHIT. Link kicks all kinds of ass.

 

And to everybody that says the PS2 controller is the best, I disagree with that in both a general sense, and specifically relating to SC2: the GC controller is not only fabulous, but I think feels a lot better than the PS2 pad for playing the game.

 

It's really worth importing, if you've got modded/chipped consoles - there's a bit of Japanese text in story mode, and the US version is likely to have a few extras, but it's not out until August. AUGUST. I'd say import the fucker.

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Guest EQ

OK DVD Spree. Seeing as how you've had the most experience with Link, how would you say he fits into the game. Put aside any novelty associated with playing as him though. How does he control?

 

An added question, how do you play SCII with the GC controller? Analog or D-Pad. On the DC, I can't play with the analog at all, but seeing as how the cube has an awkward D-Pad, I might have to learn.

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I wouldn't think the GC pad would fit SC2 at all. The digital pad is too small for my tastes, and the different sized buttons really don't fit a game where all four buttons are of relatively equal importance. If I'm stuck with a pad, I prefer the PS2 pad for all "standard" fighting games (ie not SSBM).

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Guest EricMM

PS2 of course because I only gots a PS2.

 

But I would pick the Xbox game if I could, the S-Controller is great and I heard the Xbox game looks better.

 

I don't really care about the novelty characters. None of them belong in the series FIRST of all, maybe someone like, wasn't there a medieval Spawn? But anyways, putting Link is is the worst kind of fanboy appeal and it's so irritating that so many of you mark out. Hello, this is SOUL EDGE/BLADE/CALIBUR! There are not supposed to be BOMBS, there are not supposed to be arrows. That's just stupid. I think if they had just ripped off current characters (I.E. Sophitia for Link) it would have worked better. But changing gameplay characteristics is NEVER a good thing, and changing them by this magnitude is just stupid pandering to Link-marks.

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To start with, everyone here is talking about Link's look not really fitting into the SC2 style. Well, by that line of thinking, then Spawn sure as hell wouldn't fit in either. BUt I think the majority of people who are saying this haven't even played the game.

 

The fact is that Link suits the game un/surprisingly well. Remember, this isn't the Wind Waker Celda style, but the grittier Ocarina/Smash Brothers design with a more polished look and a grittier palette. He doesn't stick out at all and it's a really cool experience to use such an iconic character in a fighting game. It's not entirely unlike him being in Smash Brothers, actually.

 

To be honest, I've never tried the D-pad, because yes, it is too small (one of the few failings of the GC controller). But I can assure you that the analogue stick is PERFECT - it doesn't suffer from the problems the DC analogue stick did. As for comparing it to the PS2 pad, I think you'll find that most people who have PLAYED the game will agree that the GC pad feels a lot better than both the PS2 and Xbox controller - read a few multiformat reviews (even go to GameFAQs if you have to) and you'll see.

 

Of course, if you're that anal about it, you can pick up a bridge adaptor and use a Dual SHock on your Cube, or you can even shell out the big bucks and get the official SC2 arcade stick.

 

To be honest, I prefer the GC version out of the three. Sure, I'ma Ninty mark, but I'm fair. the GC has the better controller for the job, and Link is just a cooler bonus character - as aforementioned, Heihachi is in the Tekken games, and Spawn... well, if you like Spawn, it might make all the difference, but to me it's much cooler to take Link into battle, arrows and all.

 

Hope that helps. I gotta go write some more.

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Guest Sakura

Kuma in Tekken is an established character. He has been in EVERY game. Ogre was a well established boss in Tekken 3. All of the goofy characters in Tekken, while weird, fit in and look like Tekken characters. Kuma is a bear, yes, but he looks like he was made by the same artist as Jin Kazama.

 

Link does not.

 

 

Li Long and Hwang(and Assassin doesn't count) are not in SC II. An elf from Zelda is. Bogus.

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Guest WukenBloodstar

If you don't like it, don't buy it..nobody is forcing you to like what they do.

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Guest KoR Fungus

Shrug, I'm not going to argue too much about the controller, because all I've played it on are Namco/Hori sticks, and that's all I'm planning to use. I agree with you that Link's look is no worse than Spawn's, but my conclusion is that neither should be in the game. I really don't understand why playing as Link is such a cool experience. Yeah, Heihachi is in Tekken. But Link is also in SSB. It's not like playing as Link in a fighting game is a new experience. All you Link fans should just buy SSBM and play him in a game where he actually fits.

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Guest DVD Spree

I'm not trying to start trouble over this, and Lord knows I;m not going to be online enough to argue the toss, but here goes.

 

If Link should be taken out of the game, then so should Haihachi. Just because one is an in-house Namco creation, doesn't mean he has any more right to be in the game - all three are bonus characters, included exclusively for the home versions and none of them have been put in at the expense of other characters. Arguing that "oh, they included some elf but left out such and such" is a nonsense argument - wow, they gave us something for free, and not at all at the expense of any of the original ideas or characters. Gee, LET'S COMPLAIN.

 

The fact is that true videogame fans mark for Zelda games. Why include him in SC2? Why not? And if you'd actually PLAYED AS HIM, you might better understand.

 

At the end of the day, no-one will force you to buy the game, and hating on a particular character on a rival system only makes you come across as a petty mark for console rivalries. If you don't like it, for whatever reason, fine - just get over it and leave the rest of us to meaningful discussion.

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Guest EricMM
The fact is that true videogame fans mark for Zelda games.

 

oh my god

 

First of all that statement is just dumb. Second of all, I DO mark for Zelda ADVENTURE games. I don't care about how good A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time were. That doesn't make him a fun character. Do you know who I play in Smash Bros.? Captain Falcon! And I never owned F-Zero!

 

There's no reason why these characters should have been implemented to begin with, but there's also almost no reason why not. We (as real fighter players) have the right to mock asinine characters. The only problem will be when stupid nintendrone scrubs insist on playing on the Gamecube so they can pick a stupid Link and shoot arrows all over the place. Thus forcing a shitty controller on the rest of us.

 

That'd better not happen...

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Guest DVD Spree
First of all that statement is just dumb. Second of all, I DO mark for Zelda ADVENTURE games. I don't care about how good A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time were.

 

What, "true videogame fans mark for Zelda games"? That's not a dumb statement at all - in fact, you just justified it yourself. If you don't like Zelda games, you're not a true gamer, that's all I said.

 

There's no reason why these characters should have been implemented to begin with, but there's also almost no reason why not. We (as real fighter players) have the right to mock asinine characters. The only problem will be when stupid nintendrone scrubs insist on playing on the Gamecube so they can pick a stupid Link and shoot arrows all over the place. Thus forcing a shitty controller on the rest of us.

 

That's funny enough as it is. But if you don't want "asinine characters", just keep pumping quarters into the arcade machine and quit bitching about home games that no-one is making you buy or play.

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Guest Renegade
We (as real fighter players) have the right to mock asinine characters. The only problem will be when stupid nintendrone scrubs insist on playing on the Gamecube so they can pick a stupid Link and shoot arrows all over the place. Thus forcing a shitty controller on the rest of us.

 

That'd better not happen...

Agree with you all the way Eric. I have a scrub friend with a gamecube who claims he will "wipe my ass all over the place with Links weapons". He doesnt seem to actually care about the game besides the fact that he can play as Link.

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