Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted April 27, 2003 will there be a RCN Match? Religion, Clones, and Ninjas...OH MY~! Religion, Clones, and Ninjas...OH MY~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted April 27, 2003 What did everyone think of the Widow/Crystal match? it was my first attempt at a match...so was it okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 I thought you did great, CC. Really good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted April 28, 2003 it was a good match cc...my rant was poking fun at several people, so dont take anything i say seriously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Superstar Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Nice to see Evenflow getting tossed aside in the trinity for a guy that doesn't even particpate. I guess that makes it go from "Ghey Trinity" to "Flaming Ghey Trinity." Trinity=Sucks. Un-Stable=Rule. My Match=Rule (I love how people just skip over long matches and give a low rating despite the fact that they didn't read it.) Zack/EF=Rule. Totally Endorsed=Rule. IZ=Suck. Everything Else=suck. All in all, fuck the OAOAST. Bye~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted April 28, 2003 well if thats the way youre going to exit, good riddance...seriously at least plex, caboose (wait he's still here), cwm, and sandman had the decency to tell everyone a proper farewell edit: the real story as to why eF wasn't included is that he's been really busy as of late IRL and we talked some about including him, but he wanted to take a break from hardcore participating to focus on those things more important... next time, get your facts straight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Nice to see Evenflow getting tossed aside in the trinity for a guy that doesn't even particpate. I guess that makes it go from "Ghey Trinity" to "Flaming Ghey Trinity." Trinity=Sucks. So having a great match that helps move a big storyline forward makes it ghey? Nice jump to conclusions there bucko. And I'd like to know just who the hell doesn't participate. I sincerely hope that one wasn't aimed at me, cuz if you haven't noticed I busted ass to get graphics out for AngleMania II and I write most of my matches and promos. By the way, wasn't Sandman supposed to be part of Trinity originally? Oh yeah. He left. Wonder why. Supes, if you were still around that is probably what would have made me leave. Bullshit. Plain and simple. Bye, come back when you have some maturity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Superstar Report post Posted April 28, 2003 I was talking about El Dandy. Has he even posted in any oaoast forum for about 3 months. And Popick, hate to break it to you, but the Some Guy thing isn't a "worked shoot." Just like me, Angle-plex, Caboose, and CWM, he can't stand your bullshit. I know you just love to make angles out of everything (like constantly taking shots at people that quit because THIS PLACE IS A WRECK). What was the fucking point of you trying to bury Some Guy after his match. What a fucking tool. SP, being critical of something I think is fucking stupid would make you leave. Boo-fucking-hoo. I don't give a shit about you, Popick, or Tony. I have a handful of people here that I can call friends. Not you. Now why don't you go to IZ and cut another "WORKED SHOOTZ~!" promo and try and bury me some more, alright? Then I can do something more productive, like the SJL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 I tried to bury you? How? And also, again your fucking facts aren't straight. I generally take the lead and write Infernales stuff. Dandy and I communicate regularly and we always have since we've been a team. I enjoy writing so I usually do it. I'm sorry if that strikes you oddly, but it's a style of working that works great for us. It isn't that you don't like Trinity or whatever. Ultimately you're not even a factor anymore so I could give two shits. IF you were still active, it's your constant, CHILDISH fucking bullshit that has come close to putting me out. Not because of YOU, but because of the mounting bullshit that's been going on that you're generally involved in. And why the FUCK would I spend any time trying to bury you? You left, you gave up, you no longer want to be a part of things here. You are of little significance now, and I wouldn't waste the TIME trying to bury you. I've got bigger things to do and better stories to tell. If you bothered to read anything, especially my response to AP, you'd have seen that at a base level I've been agitated but the majority was character eye view. That's something us writers have to slip into every now and then to gain motivation for our CHARACTERS in the STORY. Bury you? Your childishness buries you. None of us even have to try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted April 28, 2003 I was talking about El Dandy. Has he even posted in any oaoast forum for about 3 months. -SpiderPoet and Dandy talk alot about their angles...SP likes to do the writing And Popick, hate to break it to you, but the Some Guy thing isn't a "worked shoot." Just like me, Angle-plex, Caboose, and CWM, he can't stand your bullshit. I know you just love to make angles out of everything (like constantly taking shots at people that quit because THIS PLACE IS A WRECK). What was the fucking point of you trying to bury Some Guy after his match. What a fucking tool. -SG and I have been talking constantly through PMs about an angle between us. I've learned what was behind the first promo, and what happened on Living AngleLously was a part of that angle, that myself and Some Guy both are happy with... and he knew about it... If you want to know where its headed read the shows... There's a very good point to why that occured... SP, being critical of something I think is fucking stupid would make you leave. Boo-fucking-hoo. I don't give a shit about you, Popick, or Tony. I have a handful of people here that I can call friends. Not you. -likewise Now why don't you go to IZ and cut another "WORKED SHOOTZ~!" promo and try and bury me some more, alright? Then I can do something more productive, like the SJL. -I hope you're happy there...Really, that's the honest truth. But really, and i mean this honestly, at many times you acted really immaturely here...several shots went beyond the OaOasT ... I hope you don't treat anyone like that in the SJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 SP, being critical of something I think is fucking stupid would make you leave. Boo-fucking-hoo. I don't give a shit about you, Popick, or Tony. I have a handful of people here that I can call friends. Not you. You know Supes, I never had a problem with you -- and I don't have a problem with anybody in the entire SmartMarks board, but you started showing your age -- or should I say immaturity (?) in the past few months. I'm not sure who said at least Caboose, SG, SM and AP don't run around complaining after they left, but they're right. You started taking the OAOAST too seriously with the whole "glory days" stuff. I made the mistake of taking the OAOAST seriously last year, to the point where I decided to push the fact this is AS's fed, and gave him a title that holds no meaning, but it damn-sure let's people know this is his; he started. We give you your own show so you can recapture the "glory days." Pal, it isn't (and wasn't) going to happen. Those days were wreckless...in terms of setting events up; sloppy. I remember the runaround when TSS got sick and couldn't write AP/Caboose (or BPP, not sure) -- HIAC. Hey, it's nobody fault the shows (IZ & hD) took off and left TOAOAST almost lifeless. The place was bound to change (no matter who was "in charge") due to the popularity. Here's another thing to consider: Why is it, members of the OAOAST who don't like something but never speak out till they quit? If ANYBODY has a problem, they need to speak up, not wait till they quit. There's nothing we can do to fix the situation unless we know what the problem is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted April 28, 2003 ::Scratches head:: Hey he said Everybody else=sucks. I'm an everybody else!! WTF?! Well anyways now I'm looking forward to iZ where I'll cut my first extended promo. Here I go... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Poppa Popick Report post Posted April 28, 2003 you go vitamin...just remember to pm it to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Here's another thing to consider: Why is it, members of the OAOAST who don't like something but never speak out till they quit? If ANYBODY has a problem, they need to speak up, not wait till they quit. There's nothing we can do to fix the situation unless we know what the problem is. Amen to that. But anyway, LA was a great show, probably one of my favourites so far. I think it shows the split is working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KanadianKrusty Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Yep, great show, but I realized I don't know what the fuck I'm doing in a comedy team with my "straight-forward wrestlng machine" gimmick... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest j.o.b. squad Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Yep, great show, but I realized I don't know what the fuck I'm doing in a comedy team with my "straight-forward wrestlng machine" gimmick... well its obvious you are the straight man. the bud abbot to my lou costello. but it might help if you wrote a promo so we know what your character is. Right now you are just that guy taging with j.o.b. squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted April 28, 2003 I was talking about El Dandy. Has he even posted in any oaoast forum for about 3 months. And Popick, hate to break it to you, but the Some Guy thing isn't a "worked shoot." Just like me, Angle-plex, Caboose, and CWM, he can't stand your bullshit. I know you just love to make angles out of everything (like constantly taking shots at people that quit because THIS PLACE IS A WRECK). What was the fucking point of you trying to bury Some Guy after his match. What a fucking tool. SP, being critical of something I think is fucking stupid would make you leave. Boo-fucking-hoo. I don't give a shit about you, Popick, or Tony. I have a handful of people here that I can call friends. Not you. Now why don't you go to IZ and cut another "WORKED SHOOTZ~!" promo and try and bury me some more, alright? Then I can do something more productive, like the SJL. Supes, I knew what was going to happen and had no problem with it. I'm working with him right now and we'll see where it goes. So far I have no complaints, if bulshit starts to pop up, I'll be able to call him on it and hopefully get it changed. So far so good. We'll see what happens. I don't hate BPP, I really don't like how things went before, but I'm giving him the benifit of the doubt and the chance to prove me wrong. SS, that match was great. I thought it was the best on the show and you got my character donwn pretty much cold. I loved it. Tony, I thought you're promo was great, revisionist history but a pretty damn good delivery. I liked SP's deal too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Here's another thing to consider: Why is it, members of the OAOAST who don't like something but never speak out till they quit? If ANYBODY has a problem, they need to speak up, not wait till they quit. There's nothing we can do to fix the situation unless we know what the problem is. I remember constantly complaining about losing all the time. Nothing changed, so I stopped caring. And thanks for writing our match. I wouldn't have any problem with how you handeled my character as long as I wasn't tripped over tables knocking awards off and breaking them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Here's another thing to consider: Why is it, members of the OAOAST who don't like something but never speak out till they quit? If ANYBODY has a problem, they need to speak up, not wait till they quit. There's nothing we can do to fix the situation unless we know what the problem is. I remember constantly complaining about losing all the time. Nothing changed, so I stopped caring. And thanks for writing our match. I wouldn't have any problem with how you handeled my character as long as I wasn't tripped over tables knocking awards off and breaking them. Tony, the whole purpose of the aWo angle was to change things. That's what caused me to stop caring. I think you're ignoring the people who are complaining or just forgetting about it because it doesn't suit your ideas about OAOAST. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Tony, I thought you're promo was great, revisionist history but a pretty damn good delivery. I liked SP's deal too. I don't even remember what I wrote, but some of it was true; deleting your PM, never wanting to be apart of stories until CWM got me to change my mind (or I have may just decided to do it). Anybody who ever had access to the (I hate to use this word) "booker" folder, knows a majority of the time I run around asking stupid questions, like "what's EF's theme?" "who's supposed to win?", because I don't follow close enough. Me putting myself over was a mistake (still new to everything), but it never happened...BPP did it instead. :lol The fact I also saw an opening for a possible "Office" vs. Workers feud, made me write the promo, and the fact I needed a strong debut for TBS. Next month I'll probably slack off, that always happens. Maybe you'd like to be next month's guest on TBS. Possibly a spoof on the WWE's "Great Debate." It also develops the heel Tony "The Body" character, as he can't accept the fact he can no longer do what he's done for most of his life, and he'll do and say anything that makes him believe he's still "the man." I liked your match, too. But I think I've seen that finish before. At least BPP and SS have something in common...not in that way either, folks. AP, I wasn't talking about you; I don't ever remember seeing you complain, but I'm clueless to most of what's happening so I probably skipped over it. I was talking about the direction of the OAOAST, I only remember there being 2 days in the month of July 2002 where those complaints were flying, I think only 4 people agreed and nobody ever took it seriously (probably because nobody knew we even had a direction). Too bad things happened the way they did. I still miss you...in a business way. Oh...and that was AS's idea for the Angle Awards. Maybe one day I'll do a show where I show how the OAOAST works "backstage." Hey Caboose, Confidential 2, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Well to be honest, I stopped complaining these last few months because a lot of the other members were getting sick of it (and I don't really blame them). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Plexie, the BASE of what I said was shoot, in that all this crap has been agitating me for auite some time. The specifics are work, however, as I just took that base agitation and jacked it up to unreasonable levels and then infused it with my character's view of things (a view tained by losing Widow, being frustrated, and whatever Stephen Joseph has told him, along with an already mounting level of insanity). So, yes, as for what you quoted it's work. No worried. Ok. Just to make it clear I do accept some of the responsibility for the losing streak and joke booking and such. I guess I could have....complained.....even more or something. And I think this show has really started the OAOAST new era. The old guys were buried in Spiderpoet's promo (in storylines) and the new guys are rising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Damn straight we're all rising. (demands a Val Venis-esque vignette with all sorts of erection and phallic allusions) And if fighting is all the old guard wants to do, let them be buried. Sheesh. If anyone is upset with how things are, they'll probably find a home on the other show whenever we start doing trades and stuff. Maybe I don't mind the supposed bullshit because things have been going so well for HD so far, and for me in particular. All I can really say is hope you do well in the SJL/SWF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Tony, the whole purpose of the aWo angle was to change things. That's what caused me to stop caring. I think you're ignoring the people who are complaining or just forgetting about it because it doesn't suit your ideas about OAOAST. I don't even have ideas on how I want the OAOAST to be like. When I came onboard in May 2002, the OAOAST had just created HeldDown, and their first weekly show was coming up. After a week or so I suggested becoming the person who would oversee wins/losses, and would work with the guys posting the weekly shows -- which was CWM and maybe BPP, not sure if he had joined yet. To say the least, I fucked that up pretty bad. June came and went without any problems. July 2002 We moved from SM to VM, and we're heading into the 4th OAOAST PPV (Beach Brawl), Caboose (or SS) started a thread saying they didn't like the direction. I didn't know WTF they meant. I was hardly doing anything but since I was "in charge" I felt I was taking the heat. I tell CWM & BPP I'm going to quit because I seem to be causing problems. They both said they didn't want to see me leave but understood if I did. After a day I decide to stay, thinking the complaints would blow over. At that point the whole "long-term" planning came about; it was a poor choice of words as it made it seem like we had months of stories planned when we really meant main events. We knew who the OAOAST champion was, and we'd book him into each month's main event till Sept. -- Oct was the "Fingerpoke" finish. The fact I was still new at this, it was a mistake to say we had "long-term" planning. The Master Plan I'm not sure which came, but I think after the complaint, CWM posted your idea. I didn't want to do it at first. One of the first things I said when I joined was: "I don't want to be apart of the storylines." After CWM got me to reconsider (or it could of been me), I said fine we'll do it. I send you the plan, and post it in "bookers only" at VM for CWM and BPP to see. I don't remember their reaction to it. The Screw Ups I end up deleting your idea, we end up moving back to the SM. Alf was pretty fast to shut VM down, now we don't know the way the reunion is supposed to go. You were almost gone by that point so it never pops into my head to PM you about the idea, and I end up writing the thing on the fly. The on-the-fly rewritten aWo reunion sees it's first light of day as hints of a reunion started taking place at A2A. The angle goes down in Oct., but you're all but gone until you finally leave. Hey I fucked up. I'm sorry. Sure, I had this vision of the OAOAST being something it wasn't in May-July, but I wasn't shoving it down people's throats. They were writing the shows, I just sat back and rarely did anything. I barely even read our shows. And I'm still like that. Ask Zack or AS (who admits he's as clueless as me). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted April 28, 2003 OK, I didn't bother responding to your PM because I was pissed. Caboosea nd I proposed an angle and then you guys go and change everything and on top of that have us lose every match. How are we supposed to work with that? We give an idea, you change it, and then bury us. Why would we even want to do that? I was disillusioned with the place and then that happened and I was done. I think you do have an idea of what you want OAOAST to be, you want it to be all pre-planned, which takes all of the fun out of it and destroys the foundation of the thread. This was originally a place to go and do whatever you felt like on any given day. I think this place needed to be organized but it went too far. We came up with an idea and wanted it done really fast, it didn't happen because of three months worth of planning that was already done. We wanted the suprise element to come back, I felt that was taken away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Personally I like it somewhat pre-planned. I think I'd get bored with it if we just came in and did whatever. I like writing promos/matches/vignettes and planning feuds too much to just goof around and whatnot. But I wasn't in the OAOAST for the old days so I don't know how it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Personally I like it somewhat pre-planned. I think I'd get bored with it if we just came in and did whatever. I like writing promos/matches/vignettes and planning feuds too much to just goof around and whatnot. But I wasn't in the OAOAST for the old days so I don't know how it was. It's a much better balance now. We went from just fucking around to a very structured show in like 5 minutes. It has been corrected pretty well. We went from doing our own thign to other people doing the thing that they thought we should be doing for us. That pissed me off. I think the change back to a more participant oriented show is a result of Caboose, AP, me, and a few others complaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Oh ok. I can understand being pissed about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 28, 2003 Wow . . . I wasn't aiming to "bury" any of the old guard. Not at all. But, I guess that works (in storylines). I dunno. *shrug* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
