Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I know it's Pretty Early but Hey That has never stopped us before... We are almost postitive that Dr. Jho's Miracle Surgery performed on Kurt Angle was a Complete Success. And Angle is said to already be training for his returning almost to the point he was willing to take bumps just two weeks after the fact. We're Estimating that Angle will return around Late Summer... So How should he return? A lot of People believe that Angle needs to return right back where he left off at and resume his fued with Lesnar and have that HUGE WWE Title Rematch at Summer Slam. However, I had a different Idea... It was said in the Angle Article that Kurt was strongly helping out John Cena and He felt that Cena was a breakout star in making. That INSTANTLY sparked an Idea in me...Why not do a Austin/Hart thing with Angle and Cena. Understand what I mean? When Hart lost his WM title Match to Shawn, He disappered from WWF. Austin was rapidally rising as a potential Breakout, Esp. after Winning the KOTR and starting his 3:16 phrase. Austin began mocking and Calling out Bret and that gave him tremendous Heat...Finally, Hart was forced to return and get his hands on Austin and Bret Hart won that return match at Series and Austin got the greatest rub of all time. I was thinking Cena oughta do the Same with Angle...After Cena comes close to Beating Lesnar tonight...Have Cena go through a Rampage...Destorying Eddy, Mysterio, Rikishi, Benoit and whatever face you may have... Cena should start calling out Kurt Angle around June...Hell, Some People suggested Cena should have a Entrouge and Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas could work as his Protection...It also fuels the Angle/Cena fued. So Around July...Have Stephanie McMahon announce that Kurt Angle returns at Summer Slam and he'll face John Cena. Yes, instead of Lesnar/Angle II, we'll have Lesnar/Benoit as the WWE Title Match instead and Angle returns to Face Cena. Angle doesn't make any apperences before Slam just to make his return all that much BIGGER...Angle and Cena have a classic Match and Angle goes over...Cena gets a Great Rub... That Means, You create a Major Monster Heel in Cena and you give Angle a great Face Run to return with... This Allows you keep Angle/Lesnar away from each other until Survivor Series or perhaps the Biggest Stage at WMXX in MSG. You don't need to rush back to Angle/Lesnar, because you'll always have that waiting for you and the story is already cemented... You can Run with Angle/Cena for Months and It will perserve the Angle/Lesnar Rematch. Any other suggestions... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I thought he would be back in two months, making it the end of May or early June. I mean, he's already been going to Smackdown backstage. I wouldn't mind all of that happening by the way. I'd rather them save Brock/Angle also, it would just make it mean so much more. Throw in a Benoit title run durring his feud with Brocky, and I'm fine, heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Nah, don't like that. Angle/Lesnar II a Summerslam with the rubber match at Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I thought he would be back in two months, making it the end of May or early June. I mean, he's already been going to Smackdown backstage. I wouldn't mind all of that happening by the way. I'd rather them save Brock/Angle also, it would just make it mean so much more. Throw in a Benoit title run durring his feud with Brocky, and I'm fine, heh. Sure. they could do it for Vengence but Summerslam means mUch more... Bret Hart was ready to go all along...they just milked it long enough to make it even more important... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Nah, don't like that. Angle/Lesnar II a Summerslam with the rubber match at Mania. No. No. No. No. Why blow of this Match at Summer Slam? It can be milked all the way to NEXT WM. Here with my idea...You create Cena into an even bigger Heel and you Give Angle a good way to come back... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted April 27, 2003 One thing they would have to do is put Cena over UT clean at the first SD ppv Vengeance. To have Cena strong enough going into that match where he could lose and still come out getting a big rub they need to put him over the big face other than Lesnar. And I am not saying that as an UT hater, Cena needs to be strong going in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Sure Why Not...But Cena could build himself into a Mega Heel on Promos alone... But if you put him over Undertaker or Hogan or someone like that of that Stature at Vengence...It helps. But it isn't required... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Not yet. Cena's still way too green. Maybe next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2003 He's only going to be out 6 weeks with that surgery, so assuming it all goes well (he still had some tingling in his arm, from his neck healing) he might wrestle on the May PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted April 27, 2003 God no, there is no reason to rush him back for the next PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I fully support Benoit/Brock for Summerslam (Benoit taking it home) and then Angle/Brocky at NEXT Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 27, 2003 God no, there is no reason to rush him back for the next PPV. I would save Angle's return, IF he's healty to do so, for the first Smackdown exclusive PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Not yet. Cena's still way too green. Maybe next year. I don't think So...He will been wrestling for a Year by this point and don't forget he has been working with Angle lately and that should REALLY help his development along... It's the perfect Angle (no pun intended) to bring Kurt back... We already Know about Kurt's Neck Injury, Cena is a Disrespectful person. Cena can draw good heat and Angle is bound for a Huge Face Run when he returns so why risk it by having Lesnar/Angle II right away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I fully support Benoit/Brock for Summerslam (Benoit taking it home) and then Angle/Brocky at NEXT Wrestlemania. Me Too... You Could Do that...Put the Title On Benoit...Have him Job it back to Lesnar or Angle at Series and then go with Lesnar/Angle for Mania... Actully, I wouldn't be shocked to See Cena in the Main event come WMXX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 God no, there is no reason to rush him back for the next PPV. I would save Angle's return, IF he's healty to do so, for the first Smackdown exclusive PPV. Sure, I think my Idea would work just fine at Vengence as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted April 27, 2003 That would be a big dilemma. Use that angle to draw for the first SD PPV, or try to draw a huge SS with Angle/Cena, Brock/Benoit, plus Raw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Not yet. Cena's still way too green. Maybe next year. I don't think So...He will been wrestling for a Year by this point and don't forget he has been working with Angle lately and that should REALLY help his development along... It's the perfect Angle (no pun intended) to bring Kurt back... We already Know about Kurt's Neck Injury, Cena is a Disrespectful person. Cena can draw good heat and Angle is bound for a Huge Face Run when he returns so why risk it by having Lesnar/Angle II right away... I know, but let him get more polish thanks to Angle BEFORE the fued. Frankly, I think OVW training blows, since it hasn't really done anybody any good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted April 27, 2003 That would be a big dilemma. Use that angle to draw for the first SD PPV, or try to draw a huge SS with Angle/Cena, Brock/Benoit, plus Raw? Which "SS?" There's Summerslam and Survivor Series you know. I assume you mean Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 That would be a big dilemma. Use that angle to draw for the first SD PPV, or try to draw a huge SS with Angle/Cena, Brock/Benoit, plus Raw? Either Way, It works. You could do Lesnar/Benoit at Vengence along with Cena/Angle but then if you put over Benoit like he should...Then Do you go with Benoit/Angle for Slam... Which is Why I say my idea works for Summerslam... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 That would be a big dilemma. Use that angle to draw for the first SD PPV, or try to draw a huge SS with Angle/Cena, Brock/Benoit, plus Raw? Which "SS?" There's Summerslam and Survivor Series you know. I assume you mean Summerslam. Slam Obviously... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I'd make the first SD exclusive PPV as strong as they possibly can, without giving everything "special" away on it. They need to make the show very strong, in order to prove that this will work, and that it'll be worth the fans money to buy the PPV's every month and the such. Same goes for RAW's PPV's, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Yes, You're Right... So Angle's Return should be that Big Sell for Vengence... Benoit Vs Lesnar COULD go down then but Then Slam is a toss up... Angle/Lesnar shouldn't have the match that quick... If Benoit goes over...Then That means Angle/Benoit and that leaves Brock in the open...same with Cena... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Yes, You're Right... So Angle's Return should be that Big Sell for Vengence... Benoit Vs Lesnar COULD go down then but Then Slam is a toss up... Angle/Lesnar shouldn't have the match that quick... If Benoit goes over...Then That means Angle/Benoit and that leaves Brock in the open...same with Cena... Vengence --- 1) Angle vs Cena, in a great bout with Angle going over cleanly making Cena look like f'n gold. 2) Brock vs Benoit in a match with an oddball finish, perhaps both of them pinning one another or something. Just SOMETHING where the end isn't totally clear. Really build up for the next time they both get in the ring. Summerslam --- 1) Angle vs Cena in a type of gimmick match, just something special for them both. 2) Brock vs Benoit in a rematch, with Benoit finally going over Brock to win the title. After the above, we can have various tag matches, perhaps a Benoit/Cena program, throw in Angle/someone to make him look strong, and for a while have Brock/someone that wants to be a roadblock for Brock getting the title again, which he will get at either the November or December PPV. After that, we start building for Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania, star planting the seeds for the big shows, and somewhere along the line Brock gets the title back from Benoit, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 We could do that... I just wasn't sure if I was really willing to have a rematch type thing with Veng and SLam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Nah, don't like that. Angle/Lesnar II a Summerslam with the rubber match at Mania. No. No. No. No. Why blow of this Match at Summer Slam? It can be milked all the way to NEXT WM. My idea was to have Kurt/Brock II at SumSlam, have Kurt win, lose it to Benoit at SurSer who loses it to Brock at the Rumble, have Kurt win the Rumble and then do a HUGE Lesnar/Angle III at Mania, playing up that they each have one win over each other. Here with my idea...You create Cena into an even bigger Heel and you Give Angle a good way to come back... An Angle/Cena feud does nothing for me, personally. That's why I pitched the other idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I know it's Pretty Early but Hey That has never stopped us before... We are almost postitive that Dr. Jho's Miracle Surgery performed on Kurt Angle was a Complete Success. And Angle is said to already be training for his returning almost to the point he was willing to take bumps just two weeks after the fact. We're Estimating that Angle will return around Late Summer... So How should he return? A lot of People believe that Angle needs to return right back where he left off at and resume his fued with Lesnar and have that HUGE WWE Title Rematch at Summer Slam. However, I had a different Idea... It was said in the Angle Article that Kurt was strongly helping out John Cena and He felt that Cena was a breakout star in making. That INSTANTLY sparked an Idea in me...Why not do a Austin/Hart thing with Angle and Cena. Understand what I mean? When Hart lost his WM title Match to Shawn, He disappered from WWF. Austin was rapidally rising as a potential Breakout, Esp. after Winning the KOTR and starting his 3:16 phrase. Austin began mocking and Calling out Bret and that gave him tremendous Heat...Finally, Hart was forced to return and get his hands on Austin and Bret Hart won that return match at Series and Austin got the greatest rub of all time. I was thinking Cena oughta do the Same with Angle...After Cena comes close to Beating Lesnar tonight...Have Cena go through a Rampage...Destorying Eddy, Mysterio, Rikishi, Benoit and whatever face you may have... Cena should start calling out Kurt Angle around June...Hell, Some People suggested Cena should have a Entrouge and Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas could work as his Protection...It also fuels the Angle/Cena fued. So Around July...Have Stephanie McMahon announce that Kurt Angle returns at Summer Slam and he'll face John Cena. Yes, instead of Lesnar/Angle II, we'll have Lesnar/Benoit as the WWE Title Match instead and Angle returns to Face Cena. Angle doesn't make any apperences before Slam just to make his return all that much BIGGER...Angle and Cena have a classic Match and Angle goes over...Cena gets a Great Rub... That Means, You create a Major Monster Heel in Cena and you give Angle a great Face Run to return with... This Allows you keep Angle/Lesnar away from each other until Survivor Series or perhaps the Biggest Stage at WMXX in MSG. You don't need to rush back to Angle/Lesnar, because you'll always have that waiting for you and the story is already cemented... You can Run with Angle/Cena for Months and It will perserve the Angle/Lesnar Rematch. Any other suggestions... Have Kurt show up on Raw out of the blue around July/August and have him literally kill HHH dead and win the belt (which would also serve as a way for HHH to placate the locker room prior to the wedding). HHH goes to SD where he can have his oncamera reconciliation with Steph to lead into their wedding (and to prevent the dredded Sullivan curse about oncamera/offcamera relationships) and have him feud with Brock Lesner and UT.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 Cena DOES ALOT. This gives Angle a FRESH new way to return instead of going back to Brock lesnar... Why would you blow off this major Angle so early? We're Better off with my Way... Because we do Five important things... 1). Give Angle A great Return Angle 2). Gives Cena a Killer Rub 3). Gives US benoit/Lesnar for Slam and that gives us Benoit as WWE Champion 4). Saves the Money Match of the Rematch with Lesnar/Angle II which can be saved for as long as WMXX. 5). Gives us a Nice BIG 4 Pattern with Angle, Lesnar, Cena and Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted April 27, 2003 I think if you do the rematches from Vengeance to SS you have to put Cena over Angle at Vengeance, otherwise you might start to give Cena the Jericho treatment. Have a hard faught match, have Angle kill Cena, Cena kill Angle, have Angle kick out of a DVD, then later on Cena hits a DVD then puts a submission on Angle. For example just place a knee on the back of his neck and pull up, not a real submission just a yanking on the neck type deal and either Angle taps or passes out. Put over the fact that Angle's neck wasn't ready and he just came back too soon to shut Cena up, then at Summerslam Angle over Cena. This is all reliant on Angle's neck actually being ok to take all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 27, 2003 That Could Work... With my Angle returns at Slam...Angle oughta go over... However with the Veng return...I like it because Then It gives CENA A even BIGGER heel rub and you blow it off in a I Quit Match at Slam...Angle goes Over....Benoit beats Lesnar at Slam in a Rematch... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted April 27, 2003 My idea was to have Kurt/Brock II at SumSlam, have Kurt win, lose it to Benoit at SurSer who loses it to Brock at the Rumble, have Kurt win the Rumble and then do a HUGE Lesnar/Angle III at Mania, playing up that they each have one win over each other. I like that idea...although technically Angle pinned Lesnar at the SD before WM, but they wouldn't mention that anyway. I don't want to see a Cena/Angle fued just yet, but eventually yes. He could be getting himself established in high-midcard fueds before getting a push to the main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
