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Guest Markme123

I have heard of Njpw's Super Stong Machine, and of WWF's old Machines (Giant, Stong, Super(?)

Which one debuted the gimmick first? Is there a reason that they both had the same type of gimmick at around the same time?

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Guest Black Tiger

New Japan's Super Strong Machine is/was Junji Hirata(sp?) the guy who is currently Makai Mask #1.

 

There used to be a wrestler called Giant Machine in the late 80's-early 1990's in Japan, I'm not sure if it was in NJPW or not though, if it was in NJPW, then odds are it was Andre, the same guy who was Giant Machine in WWF.

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Guest mach7

I think the Machine gimmick did come from Japan originally though.

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