My View on things

[Guest Austin3164life]

Mid-card purgatory is where Cena belongs. The fans have realized by now that the guy is nothing special in the ring, which is why he's feuding with Spanky. Angle, Jericho and Benoit aren't gonna be around to carry his ass forever. He'll need to develop some skillz on his own.

I'm not saying Cena belongs in the ME. I think he is still green and I agree he needs to develop, but I was merely saying that pushing him this fast was stupid. He should be in the upper mid-card. Instead of jobbing him to Lesnar, they could've created a GREAT story in which Cena begins disrespecting Kurt Angle before Angle's return (a la Austin/Bret 96). It would've been a great way to build Cena (slowly) as a credible heel, and it would've solidified Angle as a face (being disrespected, comes back and silences the pesky Cena). I agree with you that he isn't ready, but I feel bad that he was thrust into the ME scene that quickly.

[Guest Sakura]

I am not sure if I could ever be completely apathetic. I am pretty pissed off at Vince taking away my hobby.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Cena is a hard one to handle. I'd say a mid-card belt would be great for him, but then again, the WWE doesn't know how to use belts effectively anymore so...

 

His chase to the title was done wrong, that's all I will say. Ok, I will say this. They should have spent at least 3 solid months developing his relationship with Brock in that Cena would talk smack and Brock would just laugh at him - all the while Cena works his way up the ladder - beating the crap guys first, then moving up to the big boys, and then finally to Brock. Even after Cena has proven himself Brock still shrugs him off and laughs - Cena then goes nuts on Brock saying that he is the real deal and that Lesnar should take him seriously... and Lesnar does. The feud itself should take about 3 or 4 weeks after the initial snapping by Cena where Brock has to now deal with this real threat. The WWE is horrible at motivation.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

My apathetic stage didn't last very long - maybe a month..maybe two... - then the desparation stage hit when I realize that I was slipping away from the WWE.

[Guest Austin3164life]

His chase to the title was done wrong, that's all I will say. Ok, I will say this. They should have spent at least 3 solid months developing his relationship with Brock in that Cena would talk smack and Brock would just laugh at him - all the while Cena works his way up the ladder - beating the crap guys first, then moving up to the big boys, and then finally to Brock. Even after Cena has proven himself Brock still shrugs him off and laughs - Cena then goes nuts on Brock saying that he is the real deal and that Lesnar should take him seriously... and Lesnar does. The feud itself should take about 3 or 4 weeks after the initial snapping by Cena where Brock has to now deal with this real threat. The WWE is horrible at motivation.

Great scenario. What's funny is that guys like us can pretty simply create a storyline for guys who are over, but the WWE creative staff can't book shit.

 

Good idea about Cena holding a upper-card belt (T.V. Title, U.S. Title)

[Guest Sakura]

What's funny is that guys like us can pretty simply create a storyline for guys who are over, but the WWE creative staff can't book shit.

But...but...we're just marks. Yeah, that's it. Just suckers and marks. We don't "have a mind for the business" and we've never stepped into the ring.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

WWE Creative Meeting.

 

Steph: Ok everybody, wuddya got?

 

Writer #1: Well Steph, I've got a great storyline for the up coming Angle/Lesnar rematch. Angle comes back and wants to get a title shot immediately, but Lesnar is afraid of reinjuring Kurt because in the WM match he gained a lot of respect for Angle and doesn't want to hurt him again. Angle calls Lesnar a pussy and demands a rematch, but you, Stephanie, won't give him one because the doctors said that Kurt came back too early and besides, there's a new #1 contender out there who deserves a shot. Angle gets infuriated and snaps on the locker room, running into matches he is not in or has any association with and destorys the participants in it claiming that if he doesn't get his rematch ASAP he'll break everyones ankles. You ban him from the buildings but the fans demand Angle - put some plants in the audience and have them chant "we want Angle" and try to get the thing rolling.

 

Steph: That's a great idea Writer number 1.

 

Writer #1: My name is Steve.

 

Steph: But what your storyline needs Writer #1 is something to CATCH the audience. Let's have, oh wait a second my phone is ringing... Hello? Oh hey baby... yeah, we're just talking about what to do with Brock and Angle... Mmm hmmm...mmm hmm... Baby, you're so smart! These goofs would have never thought of something so brilliant.. ok... ok... I love you to... give Lucy a big hug.... uh huh... ok...buh bye... Ok, here's how it's going to go down. Kurt comes back and gets mad at team angle for losing his gold medals and starts to cry over the loss. Then, team angle turns on Angle and joins up with Brock Lesnar and they all laugh at the crying kurt angle... that's what he's known as from now on "crying kurt angle" ok? Now, Jericho comes over to smackdown and becomes crybaby Jericho and together they are the collective crying cry babies known as the *Steph does hand quotes* "Diaper Duo"... They'll wear diapers and suck on bottles and everything! And somewhere along the line they will do a match and stuff will happen and... whatever... but the point is that they'll be wearing these cute lil diapers! Any comments?

 

Writer #1: Uh Steph, don't you think that will hurt Angle and Jericho?

 

Steph: And they will carry around blankets and wear bibs and come down in high chairs and tricycles!

 

Vince: Great Idea Princess.

 

Steph: Thank you daddy.

[Guest Anglesault]

What's funny is that guys like us can pretty simply create a storyline for guys who are over, but the WWE creative staff can't book shit.

But...but...we're just marks. Yeah, that's it. Just suckers and marks. We don't "have a mind for the business" and we've never stepped into the ring.

We're also nitpickers. Can't have that attention to detail crap on WWF TV!

[Guest Anglesault]

WWE Creative Meeting.

 

Steph: Ok everybody, wuddya got?

 

Writer #1: Well Steph, I've got a great storyline for the up coming Angle/Lesnar rematch. Angle comes back and wants to get a title shot immediately, but Lesnar is afraid of reinjuring Kurt because in the WM match he gained a lot of respect for Angle and doesn't want to hurt him again. Angle calls Lesnar a pussy and demands a rematch, but you, Stephanie, won't give him one because the doctors said that Kurt came back too early and besides, there's a new #1 contender out there who deserves a shot. Angle gets infuriated and snaps on the locker room, running into matches he is not in or has any association with and destorys the participants in it claiming that if he doesn't get his rematch ASAP he'll break everyones ankles. You ban him from the buildings but the fans demand Angle - put some plants in the audience and have them chant "we want Angle" and try to get the thing rolling.

 

Steph: That's a great idea Writer number 1.

 

Writer #1: My name is Steve.

 

Steph: But what your storyline needs Writer #1 is something to CATCH the audience. Let's have, oh wait a second my phone is ringing... Hello? Oh hey baby... yeah, we're just talking about what to do with Brock and Angle... Mmm hmmm...mmm hmm... Baby, you're so smart! These goofs would have never thought of something so brilliant.. ok... ok... I love you to... give Lucy a big hug.... uh huh... ok...buh bye... Ok, here's how it's going to go down. Kurt comes back and gets mad at team angle for losing his gold medals and starts to cry over the loss. Then, team angle turns on Angle and joins up with Brock Lesnar and they all laugh at the crying kurt angle... that's what he's known as from now on "crying kurt angle" ok? Now, Jericho comes over to smackdown and becomes crybaby Jericho and together they are the collective crying cry babies known as the *Steph does hand quotes* "Diaper Duo"... They'll wear diapers and suck on bottles and everything! And somewhere along the line they will do a match and stuff will happen and... whatever... but the point is that they'll be wearing these cute lil diapers! Any comments?

 

Writer #1: Uh Steph, don't you think that will hurt Angle and Jericho?

 

Steph: And they will carry around blankets and wear bibs and come down in high chairs and tricycles!

 

Vince: Great Idea Princess.

 

Steph: Thank you daddy.

Damnit, stop supplying them with ideas!

[Guest Sakura]

I just like realized I am a hyprocite since MY daddy got me a job I don't deserve and I am like his princess too.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

But it would be so cute! They could go poo poo in ...

 

Dammit...

 

I can't... Seem... to... finish that... sentence... Anglesaults will... overpowering... mine... must...FIGHT... must... finish... AAAAH!

[Guest Sakura]

But it would be so cute! They could go poo poo in ...

I can soooo see Edge making a snide remark about that.

[Guest the pinjockey]

But it would be so cute! They could go poo poo in ...

The first thing that came into my head when I read that was that Cole could start calling them the President and Prime Minister of Poopie.

 

God Bless Family Guy

[Guest jester]

Yep, it's when fans don't care when the company is fucked. Apathy is death.

That's the thing, isn't it? The simple fact is that wrestling fans, taken as a whole, don't analyze everything and bitch about every last thing.

 

They just get vaguely dissatisfied and find something else to do. They don't leave a note behind to explain why they left, they just go.

 

In Smarks, Vince has a free source of feedback on everything he does. I am not saying that everything smarks wants should be given to them. But here is a fanbase that rabidly consumes the product even when its bad (well, even they are slipping). Perhaps there is something better to do with them than have HHH put them down.

[Guest evilhomer]

Steph: ... Ok, here's how it's going to go down. Kurt comes back and gets mad at team angle for losing his gold medals and starts to cry over the loss.

The sad thing is, this is how his return will go down, guaranteed, maybe, maybe minus the crying.

 

The rest of your scenario is a little over the top and unlikely... just the diapers, the rest is pretty much dead on.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

C'mon, Stephs mind right now is probably on marriage and that means it's probably on babies too. Big, Bald, Roided-up Babies.

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

Assuming 'roids haven't rendered Cripple H sterile. I guess we can hope for that.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Well, he could have Jericho come in first and get Steph ready so that...

 

Ahem...

 

Let's not take this further.

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

HHH: Honey, look, I don't like it either but the doctors say it may be our only chance. I've looked over everybody else on RAW's files and Jericho's sperm seems to have the best chance.

 

Steph: Well...ok Hunter. If you say so.

 

HHH: Hey, would I every bury my little princess?

 

Steph: *Giggles* No.

 

HHH: Come in, Chris.

 

Jericho: YEAH! YEAH! OH YEAAAAAAAH! *Pulls down pants* ARE YOU READY!?

 

HHH: Now, you remember our agreement, right Chris?

 

Jericho: Of course. I get Steph pregnant and you in turn lie down in the ring for me and I win the World Title.

 

HHH: You got it........champ. *Winks at Steph.*

 

Jericho: Did you just wink at her?

 

HHH: 'Course not.

 

*Steph hikes her skirt up and bends over a desk.*

 

Jericho: Sweet lord! Have you been injecting 'roids into her ass?! Shit, you really do want her to look like Chy-

 

HHH: Just shut up and get to work.

 

*Jericho proceeds to nail Steph from behind and climax in a fury of orgasm.*

 

Jericho: OH YEAAAAAAH! That rocked your world, didn't it?

 

Steph: Not really. I don't think I'm pregnant at all. *Looks at Hunter.* Wanna give it a whirl, big boy?

 

HHH: Sure, what the hell?

 

*HHH proceeds to come in 20 seconds.*

 

Steph: OH! OH FUCK! HUNTER YOU ARE INSANE! THAT WAS THE MOST EARTH SHATTERING THING I'VE EVER HAD! GOD! I CAN FEEL THE BABY GROWING!

 

Jericho: *Kicks the ground.* Awwww shit!

 

Lord of the Curry apologizes for the preceding skit and by reading this you have waived yourself of any flame-baiting.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Jesus Christ I said let's not take this further... I SAID IT... Why god...Why... God... Bad visuals...

[Guest Austin3164life]

HHH: Honey, look, I don't like it either but the doctors say it may be our only chance. I've looked over everybody else on RAW's files and Jericho's sperm seems to have the best chance.

 

Steph: Well...ok Hunter. If you say so.

 

HHH: Hey, would I every bury my little princess?

 

Steph: *Giggles* No.

 

HHH: Come in, Chris.

 

Jericho: YEAH! YEAH! OH YEAAAAAAAH! *Pulls down pants* ARE YOU READY!?

 

HHH: Now, you remember our agreement, right Chris?

 

Jericho: Of course. I get Steph pregnant and you in turn lie down in the ring for me and I win the World Title.

 

HHH: You got it........champ. *Winks at Steph.*

 

Jericho: Did you just wink at her?

 

HHH: 'Course not.

 

*Steph hikes her skirt up and bends over a desk.*

 

Jericho: Sweet lord! Have you been injecting 'roids into her ass?! Shit, you really do want her to look like Chy-

 

HHH: Just shut up and get to work.

 

*Jericho proceeds to nail Steph from behind and climax in a fury of orgasm.*

 

Jericho: OH YEAAAAAAH! That rocked your world, didn't it?

 

Steph: Not really. I don't think I'm pregnant at all. *Looks at Hunter.* Wanna give it a whirl, big boy?

 

HHH: Sure, what the hell?

 

*HHH proceeds to come in 20 seconds.*

 

Steph: OH! OH FUCK! HUNTER YOU ARE INSANE! THAT WAS THE MOST EARTH SHATTERING THING I'VE EVER HAD! GOD! I CAN FEEL THE BABY GROWING!

 

Jericho: *Kicks the ground.* Awwww shit!

 

Lord of the Curry apologizes for the preceding skit and by reading this you have waived yourself of any flame-baiting.

That was the porno scene from hell. *Shudders*

[Guest evilhomer]

The part your leaving out that'll really piss us all off is in 10 months when Jericho jobs to the month old McMahon-Helmsley-Jericho baby.

[Guest Heel In Peril]

Jericho: Sweet lord! Have you been injecting 'roids into her ass?! Shit, you really do want her to look like Chy-

 

HHH: Just shut up and get to work.

 

*Jericho proceeds to nail Steph from behind and climax in a fury of orgasm.*

 

Jericho: OH YEAAAAAAH! That rocked your world, didn't it?

 

Steph: Not really. I don't think I'm pregnant at all. *Looks at Hunter.* Wanna give it a whirl, big boy?

 

HHH: Sure, what the hell?

 

*HHH proceeds to come in 20 seconds.*

 

Steph: OH! OH FUCK! HUNTER YOU ARE INSANE! THAT WAS THE MOST EARTH SHATTERING THING I'VE EVER HAD! GOD! I CAN FEEL THE BABY GROWING!

 

Jericho: *Kicks the ground.* Awwww shit!

 

Lord of the Curry apologizes for the preceding skit and by reading this you have waived yourself of any flame-baiting.

Great! Even in a fake porno segment, Triple-H can't give Jericho credit for anything. At least Chris was a funny bastidd, as usual. Hahahaha, that must've been some ass. Thanks, LOTC.

[Guest tank_abbott]

This is a good thread.

I'm glad I took the time to start it!

[Guest tank_abbott]

I'm sorry that every single fucking segment doesn't entertain your negative ass.

Why. Why, with the talent that they have, can't they put on a show where everything is good?

Everyone has a different opinion on what "good" is.

 

Me and my brother are really enjoying the Mr. America segments, alot of people here aren't enjoying them for whatever various reasons they have.

 

Just one example.

 

Different strokes for different strokes.

 

The 13-14 year olds watching the show more than likely enjoy the TnA segments more than us older folk, who have been there and done that... etc

 

Not every fans would want to see 8-20 min. technical matches or brawls or whatever, everyone has a preference and they will enjoy certain parts of the show more than others.

 

 

(Tries to steer this thread back to a decent discussion and away from any more HHH buries Jericho jokes)

[Guest bob_barron]

You're not going to respond to the dissections of your first post?

 

And judging by the ratings- with more people watching Smackdown then RAW it looks people do enjoy actual wrestling more

[Guest tank_abbott]

I figured that since I was gone since Saturday Morning, my comments would be out dated... we've moved on to where all GREAT threads go... bashing HHH ... ~JOY~

[Guest Austin3164life]

Most wrestling fans enjoy a good match coupled with a good feud.

[Guest tank_abbott]

But not everyone will enjoy everything, even if every fued is well planned out, there will still be fueds and people we don't care to see.

 

McMahon/Hogan has....oh bad example neither good from a technical standpoint (Mark out like all hell-yes I do) or storyline wise...

 

Oh well

[Guest Austin3164life]

The main problem is that storylines are rushed and jammed into one or two months at the most, and even if it is slightly interesting, there is a bad track record of HORRIBLE payoff. Some examples?

 

Fast Push- Cena's. He's not ready to main event pay per views yet, although with a nice long program with someone like Chavo Guerrero could help Cena gradually rise up the card. WWE's fault for not having a mid-card belt.

 

Horrible Blowoff- The Shawn Micheals/Chris Jericho feud had a lot of promise and it picked up steam as the feud really showcased both their personas rather well. The big payoff match at WM was an AWESOME match, but Jericho should've went over the semi-active wrestler Shawn Micheals. We'll probably get a rematch @ Summerslam but it won't make a difference.