REAL Match of the Decade

[Guest Sakura]

A glorified squash could be match of the decade.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

HHH vs. Taka and HHH vs. Jericho are both garbage, two of the most overrated matches of all time. People cream over these matches simply because a bunch of smarky favorites got some decent offense in on HHH. One of them is filled with interference, while the other features both a screwjob AND a Dusty finish. HHH had a better match, during the same time period, with Billy Gunn, but no one cares about that one because Billy isn't worshipped on the net.

[TheFranchise 0]

The sad thing is- I've never seen the 10-man. :-(

 

Triple H v. Jericho also warrants consideration

Shhh...

 

'it never happened'

[Guest Olympic Slam]

HHH vs. Taka and HHH vs. Jericho are both garbage, two of the most overrated matches of all time. People cream over these matches simply because a bunch of smarky favorites got some decent offense in on HHH. One of them is filled with interference, while the other features both a screwjob AND a Dusty finish. HHH had a better match, during the same time period, with Billy Gunn, but no one cares about that one because Billy isn't worshipped on the net.

I agree with this. If Jericho v HHH (the "it never happened" segment) is match of the decade, then Rock v Hogan was Match of the Year for 2002. A line has to be drawn between workrate and pure emotion. Then you have to compare the two. Is it the emotion or events in a match that matter most, or is it the technical mertis (i.e workrate) behind it? The distinction between the two is blurred consiederably outside of Smark circles.

[TheFranchise 0]

I never thought Rock/Hogan was TOO bad...

 

Oh how i miss those Rocky Sucks chants

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Yeah, the Foley/Funk match during the Foley/Austin feud is the match I'm talking about. I always thought the hardcore title was on the line.

[Guest Redhawk]

I think we can all agree that there have been at least 10 better RAW matches than the TLC 4 match. But here's one thing that I don't get: What was the point of having the TLC 4 match win Match of the Decade?

 

1) Did WWE pick the most recent match because they didn't want to make it look like they haven't put on a great match in the past 5-7 years? Like saying "We're always improving."

 

2) Did they want to use a match where they wouldn't have to blur out the old WWF logo?

 

3) Were they trying to set up a big push for Kane?

 

4) Did they not want a match involving anyone who wasn't on the roster anymore?

 

Now, I would be inclined to say #1 makes the most sense, and if that was their reasoning I would at least applaud WWE for trying to create new stars (sorta). But then how could you say creating new stars is a priority in 2003, when they've been doing more nostaglia than anything else since then? By dragging out Hogan, Piper, Sable, "the old" Stone Cold and with LOD on the way, they're already admitting the new guys can't cut it. So why not pick a real Match of the Decade, something from back in the day?

[Guest bravesfan]

Now, I would be inclined to say #1 makes the most sense, and if that was their reasoning I would at least applaud WWE for trying to create new stars (sorta). But then how could you say creating new stars is a priority in 2003, when they've been doing more nostaglia than anything else since then? By dragging out Hogan, Piper, Sable, "the old" Stone Cold and with LOD on the way, they're already admitting the new guys can't cut it.

 

In some backwards logic (or WWE logic, )...by awarding the honor to TLC 4, they're intending to say that they HAVE built new stars (when in reality, that's almost totally false). If they had nominated, say...

 

--Flair/Perfect from 1993.

--Foley/HHH from 1997.

--HBK/Austin v. Bulldog/Owen from 1997.

--Austin/Kane from 1998. (which they did)

--Foley/Funk from 1998.

--Foley/Rock from 1999.

 

This is basically admitting that the company hasn't put out a great RAW match in about 5 years (Foley/Rock was taped in December of '98).

 

Why else would they nominate not one, but TWO matches from the year of 2002? (Jeff Hardy v. The Undertaker being the other)

[Guest TheBostonStrangler]

My choice would either go to the Angle/Benoit cage match or the Austin/HHH vs. Benoit/Jericho match. That was such a great month for WWE television. Those two are my favorite RAW matches of all time. For pure sports entertainment, however, Mankind's first title win deserves to be up there as well. What a perfectly booked match.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

My Top 10

 

1. Owen & Bulldog/Shawn & Austin - June 1997

2. Flair/Perfect - January 1993

3. Bret/Kid - July 1994

4. Foley/HHH - September 1997

5. Dallas 10 Man - January 2000

6. Benoit & Jericho/Austin & HHH

7. Foley/Funk - May 1998

8. Rock/Foley - December 1998

9. Owen/Bulldog - March 1997(The 2nd one where Bret reunites them. Sadly I never saw the first match from Germany)

10. Jericho/HHH - April 2000

[Guest godthedog]

HHH vs. Taka and HHH vs. Jericho are both garbage, two of the most overrated matches of all time. People cream over these matches simply because a bunch of smarky favorites got some decent offense in on HHH. One of them is filled with interference, while the other features both a screwjob AND a Dusty finish. HHH had a better match, during the same time period, with Billy Gunn, but no one cares about that one because Billy isn't worshipped on the net.

whoa whoa whoa. you better not be talking about the match he had with billy gunn in late 2000, when gunn blew up a minute into the match with a gorilla press and did the world's worst jackhammer. that match was horrible.

[Guest Anglesault]

I think we can all agree that there have been at least 10 better RAW matches than the TLC 4 match. But here's one thing that I don't get: What was the point of having the TLC 4 match win Match of the Decade?

 

1) Did WWE pick the most recent match because they didn't want to make it look like they haven't put on a great match in the past 5-7 years? Like saying "We're always improving."

 

2) Did they want to use a match where they wouldn't have to blur out the old WWF logo?

 

3) Were they trying to set up a big push for Kane?

 

4) Did they not want a match involving anyone who wasn't on the roster anymore?

 

Now, I would be inclined to say #1 makes the most sense, and if that was their reasoning I would at least applaud WWE for trying to create new stars (sorta). But then how could you say creating new stars is a priority in 2003, when they've been doing more nostaglia than anything else since then? By dragging out Hogan, Piper, Sable, "the old" Stone Cold and with LOD on the way, they're already admitting the new guys can't cut it. So why not pick a real Match of the Decade, something from back in the day?

I've always called it the Keep Jeff Hardy from Killing Himself award. Maybe they wanted that worthless fuck to think he was special.

[Guest Anglesault]

HHH vs. Taka and HHH vs. Jericho are both garbage, two of the most overrated matches of all time. People cream over these matches simply because a bunch of smarky favorites got some decent offense in on HHH. One of them is filled with interference, while the other features both a screwjob AND a Dusty finish. HHH had a better match, during the same time period, with Billy Gunn, but no one cares about that one because Billy isn't worshipped on the net.

whoa whoa whoa. you better not be talking about the match he had with billy gunn in late 2000, when gunn blew up a minute into the match with a gorilla press and did the world's worst jackhammer. that match was horrible.

Early 2001. He almost killed HHH. Mere months after he almost killed Benoit.

[Guest caboose]

8. Rock/Foley - December 1998

What the fuck?

 

I hope thats the Foley Title Win and not their match from 'Rock Bottom'!

[Guest Austin3164life]

One match that is very overlooked in the Austin/Rock feud is their first ever World Title match the night after Survivor Series 98. They both put on a great match which lasted about 12-15 minutes. The dusty finish (Shamrock pulling out the ref, Undertaker hitting Austin) takes a bit away from it.

 

There's NO WAY Jeff Hardy should be involved in ANY "Greatest Raw Match".

[Guest Anglesault]

8. Rock/Foley - December 1998

What the fuck?

 

I hope thats the Foley Title Win and not their match from 'Rock Bottom'!

::Looks at Raw match of the decade thread. Makes an educated guess::

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

caboose see what Anglesault said.

 

Match was taped in 1998 so I consider it a 98 match.

[Guest caboose]

caboose see what Anglesault said.

 

Match was taped in 1998 so I consider it a 98 match.

Sorry my bad.

 

I'm slightly drunk, with the Premiership season finishing up today in England.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I would go with Bulldog/Owen but I was flooded out the very week that match happened and only saw parts of it on the Sat. morning show.

 

I do have to wonder....what was so astounding about the Owen/Bulldog vs. Austin/Shawn match? I recall it pretty well and I didn't remember thinking it was any kind of classic.

 

Was that HHH/Gunn match the one HHH had right after he first won the belt? That was boring as hell.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I liked the cage match between Angle and Benoit from about two years ago.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I think we can all agree that there have been at least 10 better RAW matches than the TLC 4 match. But here's one thing that I don't get: What was the point of having the TLC 4 match win Match of the Decade?

 

1) Did WWE pick the most recent match because they didn't want to make it look like they haven't put on a great match in the past 5-7 years? Like saying "We're always improving."

 

2) Did they want to use a match where they wouldn't have to blur out the old WWF logo?

 

3) Were they trying to set up a big push for Kane?

 

4) Did they not want a match involving anyone who wasn't on the roster anymore?

 

Now, I would be inclined to say #1 makes the most sense, and if that was their reasoning I would at least applaud WWE for trying to create new stars (sorta). But then how could you say creating new stars is a priority in 2003, when they've been doing more nostaglia than anything else since then? By dragging out Hogan, Piper, Sable, "the old" Stone Cold and with LOD on the way, they're already admitting the new guys can't cut it. So why not pick a real Match of the Decade, something from back in the day?

I've always called it the Keep Jeff Hardy from Killing Himself award. Maybe they wanted that worthless fuck to think he was special.

If that was true, wouldn't they of gave the award to the Undertaker/Hardy match?

[Guest bob_barron]

One match that is very overlooked in the Austin/Rock feud is their first ever World Title match the night after Survivor Series 98. They both put on a great match which lasted about 12-15 minutes. The dusty finish (Shamrock pulling out the ref, Undertaker hitting Austin) takes a bit away from it.

 

There's NO WAY Jeff Hardy should be involved in ANY "Greatest Raw Match".

12-15 minutes????? That match only ran 6 minutes.

 

And to people complaining about the Dusty Finish in Jericho v. HHH- It happened like 10 minutes after the match was over so it doesn't affect my thoughts on the match itself.

 

And to say HHH had a better match with Billy Gunn at the same time was absurd. Gunn was injured around No Way Out and didn't come back till September so it's impossible to say. And if you're referring to the match from Feb 2001 where Billy Gunn was completely exposed then I really don't understand how THAT match is as good as Jericho v. HHH.

[Guest bob_barron]

Now, I would be inclined to say #1 makes the most sense, and if that was their reasoning I would at least applaud WWE for trying to create new stars (sorta). But then how could you say creating new stars is a priority in 2003, when they've been doing more nostaglia than anything else since then? By dragging out Hogan, Piper, Sable, "the old" Stone Cold and with LOD on the way, they're already admitting the new guys can't cut it.

 

In some backwards logic (or WWE logic, )...by awarding the honor to TLC 4, they're intending to say that they HAVE built new stars (when in reality, that's almost totally false). If they had nominated, say...

 

--Flair/Perfect from 1993.

--Foley/HHH from 1997.

--HBK/Austin v. Bulldog/Owen from 1997.

--Austin/Kane from 1998. (which they did)

--Foley/Funk from 1998.

--Foley/Rock from 1999.

 

This is basically admitting that the company hasn't put out a great RAW match in about 5 years (Foley/Rock was taped in December of '98).

 

Why else would they nominate not one, but TWO matches from the year of 2002? (Jeff Hardy v. The Undertaker being the other)

They DID nominate Cactus v. HHH.

[Guest JHawk]

My personal pick for Match of the Decade would have been Flair-Perfect, but I mark for both guys. I'd tend to pick something from 1997 (either Bulldog-Owen for the European Title or Bulldog/Owen-Austin/HBK) myself.

 

And thank God I'm not the only who remembers Bret Hart-123 Kid! What a match!

[Guest godthedog]

I do have to wonder....what was so astounding about the Owen/Bulldog vs. Austin/Shawn match? I recall it pretty well and I didn't remember thinking it was any kind of classic.

it was fast, fast, fast. everybody was feeling it that night and spot on with their timing, rhythm...everyone (especially shawn) was just jumping all over the place & it made for a very exciting match. lots of intangibles that you have to watch again to really appreciate.

[Guest Choken One]

I remember a GOOD HHH/Rock match the one where Chyna turned...

 

It was a I Quit Match....Great Match...

 

Anyone remember the Hardcore Title Match with about the entire Main event...

 

It was something like TBS Vs Rock and the Hardcore title match was still going on from earier and they had like two matches at once and it lead to TBS lawn darting Essa Rios for the pin...

 

It was 15 minutes of mind less fun...

[Guest bob_barron]

HHH v. Rock is a pretty good match.

 

You're thinking of Rock v. Angle v. TBS- it was a pretty fun match

[Guest Choken One]

Yeah...It was great because About 60% of the roster were brawling all over the place...

[Guest Redhawk]

While we're on the subject of "HHH almost losing to midcarder" matches -- vs. Taka and Jericho -- how about that match with Godfather where Stephanie's ass (and poontang) was on the line? Although now that I think about it, that was on Smackdown. There was also that Rikishi-HHH match from that same time period that was pretty good.

[Guest bob_barron]

You're thinking of two matches that were on SD!