Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Would you say you are politically correct? Do you go to insane lengths to make sure you don't offend anyone? Are you afraid of speaking your mind because it may offend someone because of their race or creed (ie... you wouldn't say that people of Arabic desent are more likely to hijack planes)? Are you afraid that if you say that you don't like Asaigo cheese that your a biggoted towards all cheese? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Uh, no. I'll take the time not to call African Americans "BLACKIES" when I'm around them, but I don't think anyone outside of the intellectual sphere (or the workplace) really concentrate on being PC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Nope. This P.C stuff is out of control, I don't want to give into any of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Being PC is just dumb to me. I honestly think to some point it's unconstitutional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 There is, of course, some validity to parts of PC. You should be conscious not to crack gay jokes when you've got homosexual friends around you, etc. That being said, a lot of it is overboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 12, 2003 No I'm not PC at all, and find the lengths the PC Police go to enforcing it silly. Yes PC may have been a good idea in theory, but they went insane with it and ruined whatever they were hoping it would lead to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 12, 2003 I am definitely not PC. That said, I don't go out of my way to offend people, but I also know that nothing guarantees someone the right not to be offended. People have developed thin skins, mainly because it's profitable to try and be offended by everything you read, see, and hear. PC has contributed to an already litigious society, and I wish it would finally just die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 There is, of course, some validity to parts of PC. You should be conscious not to crack gay jokes when you've got homosexual friends around you, etc. That being said, a lot of it is overboard. That isn't right though. If I want to call my friend a fag for doing something stupid and there is a homo near by tough shit. IMO, PC infringes on my first amendment rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Sure, you have every right to say it. It's ignorant, but you've got the right to be ignorant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 12, 2003 IMO, PC infringes on my first amendment rights. It helps if you know what those rights are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Sure, you have every right to say it. It's ignorant, but you've got the right to be ignorant. What's ignorant about that? Are you saying I should have to watch everything I say and do in order not to offend someone? That's just crazy. And Dr. Tom, being PC is taking away our freedom of speech, the 1st Amendment. I do know what they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 The "fag" comment is pigheaded and ignorant, but like I said, you have every right to be pigheaded and ignorant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted May 12, 2003 It comes naturally to me. However, I don't say "....-American" unless they've immigrated here themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 The "fag" comment is pigheaded and ignorant, but like I said, you have every right to be pigheaded and ignorant. I really am not trying to start an argument but how is calling a friend a fag for doing something stupid ignorant? I really want to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Because you may offend your friend's cousin's uncle's grandfather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted May 12, 2003 "Fag" is a stupid insult, IMO. So because someone screws up, they are gay? What's wrong with inoffensive insults like "idiot", "moron", or "dumbass"? PC doesn't infringe on your rights. The government won't throw you in jail for calling someone a "fag." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Unless you're asking a british guy for a cigarette "fag" is just a plain ignorant sounding word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Yeah, you two pretty much hit the nail on the head. Calling someone "gay" or "fag" because they do something stupid is rather idiotic... at its root, the term is based on homophobia and hatred towards homosexuals. It's stupid and ignorant, but again, you have the right to be stupid and ignorant and I expect you'll excercise it frequently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Ahh... but that is YOUR opinion. It's not his opinion or the world's opinion so you have no right to call it stupid or ignorant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 To me fag doesn't mean you're gay, it means you're being an idiot. That may be the time and place I grew up in but that's how I see it. But to have to watch what I say in order not to offend someone is just silly. We all have the right to say whatever we want. It's not just about the gov't putting you in jail. It's about saying what you want, when you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 12, 2003 ...what Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 12, 2003 You could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted May 12, 2003 I'd say it's the consensus opinion, Rant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 12, 2003 And Dr. Tom, being PC is taking away our freedom of speech, the 1st Amendment. I do know what they are. Ok, let's see... We all have the right to say whatever we want. It's not just about the gov't putting you in jail. It's about saying what you want, when you want. Nope, sorry. You don't get it. We have some lovely parting gifts for you, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted May 12, 2003 What about libel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 And Dr. Tom, being PC is taking away our freedom of speech, the 1st Amendment. I do know what they are. Ok, let's see... We all have the right to say whatever we want. It's not just about the gov't putting you in jail. It's about saying what you want, when you want. Nope, sorry. You don't get it. We have some lovely parting gifts for you, though. If I don't get it, then please enlighten me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 12, 2003 It's simple: the First Amendment is not about saying whatever you want, whenever you want. That mythical right is neither stated nor implied anywhere. There have been reasonable limitations placed on free speech over the years. You can't yell, "Fire!" in a crowded theatre because of the "clear and present danger" test. You can't slander someone because you're not allowed to falsely assail their character. All the First Amendment does is place restrictions on the federal government infringing on free speech. If you called your friend a "fag" in a restaurant, the owners of the restaurant would have every right to demand that you leave. There are more situations where the First Amendment doesn't apply then where it does. Btw, using "fag" as a synonym for "idiot" is ignorant, stupid, and homophobic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 12, 2003 In your opinion. I don't think it's the best word to use either... HOWEVER his argument is about talking with a friend of his and calling him a fag only to have someone else get in a huff about it. Calling a male a cocksucker could be considered homophobic as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Well...I've vowed to name my first sports franchise the "Injun Scalpin Savages"...WHICH I CAN SAY! due to the fact that I've reciently discovered I'm a small part Indian. I'm not PC. I don't say native or african american...just as I wouldn't want to be refered to as "Irish American" I don't think people are as easily offended as the media plays it up as. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted May 12, 2003 And Dr. Tom, being PC is taking away our freedom of speech, the 1st Amendment. I do know what they are. What about at work? Should you be allowed to make racist remarks to a customer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
