Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted May 13, 2003 Stan Lee deicded that doing a cameo in the sequel after playing a MINOR character in the first flick wouldn't make much sense, and he got a little tired of doing them. Now that's a man that respects continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted May 13, 2003 I don't know about Josh Hartnett...Phillipe would be too old for the part...Heath Ledger would work if he was a better actor. Im down with an unknown, the guy from Murder by Numbers, or Orlando Bloom. Bloom would be pretty good, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted May 13, 2003 I'd like to see Heath Ledger in the part, if for no other reason than to infiltrate the cast with Aussies. No one heard of Jackman before X-Men 1???? Am I the only person who saw Swordfish????? And now for an ignorant question, what is Gambit's mutation?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted May 13, 2003 Gambit can charge objects up with kinetic energy that explodes upon impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2003 100% agreed, El Satanico. My point about Wolverine though was not that Jackman has salted anything. I'm not comparing Jackman's Wolverine to Stewart's Xavier, though I do think Jackman was INTENSE in X2. My point is that with the major character-actor switches (positive or negative) such as in the Batman series and Mortal Kombat among others, I believe most comic-movie fans will be disappointed enough in the franchise for losing the potential it would have if they keep the same actors for every respective character they use. It's not really a point I'm trying to convince anyone of or anything. More of a prediction. In short, I think Batman & Robin and Mortal Kombat Annihilation pissed off A LOT of people to the point that most won't take another beating like that again on purpose. (And yeah, "beating" may sound harsh, I know. But think about said movies. They really were.) And lets face it, the role of Wolverine really put Hugh Jackman on the map, never mind what he has done since then, which to me makes him a well-rounded character... I liked him in Swordfish, because as an actor he went from a grizzled badass in Wolverine to a computer hacker who found himself in over his head. I think that yes, both Jackman and Stewart (who needed to get away from being Jean-Luc Picard in the worst way and play a character who was gentler) and to a slightly lesser extent McKellen are irreplaceable in their roles. McKellen has so much love from playing Gandalf its sickening, anyway. If they were to make something revolving around the kids, they would get rid of Mutant X and stick Paquin in a starring role, with Iceman and the other kids, with an X-Man or two making a guest appearance, and go the way of the New Mutants/X-Force. In order to make this a lasting franchise away from comics, they need X3 to raise the bar even further. Nothing spells success (real or imagined) like a trilogy. Especially if the trilogy is any good. I have to agree with the point that if X3 is recast to a major degree, the whole ball will stop rolling in a hurry. New Line could not get the actors in Mortal Kombat to reprise their roles aside from Liu Kang and Kitana, and then the script was overbooked to hell (to borrow a smark phrase), with too much going on and trying to squeeze in as many ancillary game characters and powers as they could, the movie ended up being a big-time abortion. If that is not an example of what NOT to do, whether its the second sequel or the fiftieth, I don;t know what is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted May 13, 2003 I always thought Wolvie was 200 pounds because of the metal clinking around in his bones, but that's me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2003 double post. I would agree that Naomi Campbell would make a great-looking Storm, but hell, the girl barely has two brain cells to rub together... she makes her living by looking good, what makes you think she can act?? My best bet would have been Grace Jones, and trick Storm out with the mohawk and the badass attitude that at time equaled, if not eclipsed Wolverine, especially when she lost her powers. God, Orlando Bloom as Gambit??? Like McKellen, he has way too much love for playing Legolas... considering every girl I knew who collected X-Men for any length of time *loved* Gambit as a character, and most of them went ga-ga over Bloom as Legolas.... it would be utterly ridiculous how over he would be if he did any justice to the role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I always thought Wolvie was 200 pounds because of the metal clinking around in his bones, but that's me. I read he's 300+lbs. w/ the adamantium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I will check my Official Guide to the Marvel universe when I get home from work, but I think Wolvie was 225-250. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I don't think recasting is even a issue. The major people will all be back. If Berry leaves, you don't have to recast Storm, just don't use her. Taking Storm out of the loop means you'll have extra screen time to bring in a new character like Gambit or Angel. Storm doesn't change any of the story if she leaves. I'd say if anybody has to leave, she's the #1 choice. Her character is un-needed and the actress is un-needed. Besides, even if she doesn't do X3, she could always return for X4 or X5 or whatever. The only people that aren't re-signed but MUST come back are Jackman, Stewart, McKellen and Marsden but does anybody really think those guys won't return if asked? No one heard of Jackman before X-Men 1???? Am I the only person who saw Swordfish????? What are you smoking? Swordfish came out a whole YEAR after X-men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted May 14, 2003 So it did, curses. How odd.... I guess I just knew about him coz I'm Australian and I tried to think what else he'd be known from, I could swear he was in something else decent in America before X-Men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Orlando Bloom would be good. Admit it. He's young enough for the role and, from what I've seen from his work in LotR, he is a good actor. He would make a good Gambit. Just stick a brown wig on his head, red contacts in his eyes, and a brown (or, since the current costume scheme is black) or black overcoat on him, and he's Gambit. But, an unknown actor would probably work...unless they somehow turn the most badass character (besides Wolverine) in the X-Men into a sniveling pussy (see: Iceman), I'll be happy with whoever they choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lil Naitch Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Mmmm, Gambit. Personally, I wouldn't miss Storm in the next movie. Honestly, I never really liked her as much as some of the other X-Men, and she didn't do all that much anyway. I didn't like Halle Berry as Storm, either. The nerdy fan-girl in me says she just wasn't right for the part. I'd be sad if Jackman didn't sign on for Wolvie again, though. I thought he did a good job.. despite a few things that could easily be overlooked - his height, muscles, etc. He was very intense in X-2 and did a damn good job. I think he'd stick with it. I hope so, anyway. I'd be ever so sad if he left. ...Who in the hell would they cast for Gambit? Thoughts? I always thought that Ray Park would have made a good Gambit, if he hadn't been cast as Toad. Also, as far as recasting Storm, how about the woman who plays Det. Claudette Wyms on the Shield, CCH Pounder? I think she might make a good Storm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Also, as far as recasting Storm, how about the woman who plays Det. Claudette Wyms on the Shield, CCH Pounder? I think she might make a good Storm. She's far too old to be convincing for the part. And it would be a hell of a step to go from someone who looks like Halle Berry (*drools*) to CCH Pounder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Naomi Campbell has the look but can't act, probably. Grace Jones also has the look, but can't act, as we all know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 14, 2003 IIRC, Wolverine was ~225 pounds without the adamantium, and ~300 pounds with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 hell, why didn't I think of Ray Park? Why not? he has the martial arts talent, he has the acting ability to do it, he did a pretty good job with Toad... as long as they don;t do the Darth Maul thing and stick another voice onto Gambit... but that would work pretty damn well... Either him or Orlando Bloom, for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 14, 2003 They should cast Lash LeRoux as Gambit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SweetNSexyDiva Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I know a lot of people didn't like Halle as Storm, but I personally have always liked that character. I thought Halle was really beautiful in the movie. However I do agree that there are so many other characters to explore, so with the Storm character gone we could get introduced to some other interesting ones. If there would be a way to touch on the Phoenix Saga without making it so convoluted, that would be great. I thought the story was a little too drawn out and confusing in the original storyline. I would be disappointed if they didn't touch on the story because that is such a large part of the Jean Grey character... I really can't see them just pronouncing Jean dead and moving on without that character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted May 14, 2003 God Dammit, Satanico!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted May 14, 2003 (edited) Spoiler (Highlight to Read): That's not going to happen SweetNSexyDiva, they blatantly pointed at it at the end of the movie. X all but came out and said, I sense her, she's alive. The Phoenix rises in X3.... Edited May 14, 2003 by Nanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Spoilers folks, some people haven't seen the second one yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I say it jokingly, but didn't Glenn Danzig use to campaign for a role as Wolverine in a movie. He's got the height thing covered (he's only like 5'5", give or take and inch) and he used to be jacked so would have the muscles down pat, and he has the sideburns already. So, ignoring the fact that he can't act and is old and is basically a joke, I vote for Danzig to be the new Wolverine. (plus, he could provide the soundtrack as well) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heel In Peril Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Orlando Bloom would be good. Admit it. He's young enough for the role and, from what I've seen from his work in LotR, he is a good actor. He would make a good Gambit. Just stick a brown wig on his head, red contacts in his eyes, and a brown (or, since the current costume scheme is black) or black overcoat on him, and he's Gambit. Bloom is cool. But if he got the part, aside from the fact that it would be a little strange having two enormous stars from LOTR together again in another blockbuster, I hope he can trade his British accent for a Caijun one or that would be REALLY strange. He'd be the second actor in the movies to play a Frenchman with an English accent. The first one being, of course,... Patrick Stewart as Jean Luc Picard in Star Trek TNG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I say it jokingly, but didn't Glenn Danzig use to campaign for a role as Wolverine in a movie. He's got the height thing covered (he's only like 5'5", give or take and inch) and he used to be jacked so would have the muscles down pat, and he has the sideburns already. So, ignoring the fact that he can't act and is old and is basically a joke, I vote for Danzig to be the new Wolverine. (plus, he could provide the soundtrack as well) IIRC, the whole "Danzig as Wolverine" thing came about because Wizard Magazine (the Entertainment Weekly of comics) did a "casting call" and put him down as their choice for Wolverine. In that same article they had Patrick Stewart as Xavier and Dolph Lundgren as Colossus, but they were basing things on look, not acting ability (they once listed Howie Long as Venom in another edition of the article). Speaking of Wolverine, whatever happened to Dougray Scott? I hope they leave Gambit out of the movies. To be honest, I found that he ceased to be interesting once his relationship with Rogue took a turn for the serious in the comics. After which, he might as well have been wearing a Doug Christie jersey (Sports Guy reference!) instead of his X-gear. Besides which, he's more of a loner than a team player, and since they already have Wolverine, they don't need to have another guy running around on his own. With that being said, you need a lanky kind of look for Gambit, and Bloom seems to fit that bill. However, since he's essentially "broken out", I don't see him being cast for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 This is kind of on-topic, but I was just going through IMDB for X2 and saw this listed in the cast... 'Charles Siegel .... Dr. Sebastian Shaw' Shaw? I've seen X2 twice and still don't recall seeing Shaw's name. Anyone? Could this mean the Hellfire Club / Phoenix storyline is a definite for X3? Or am I just reading too much into things... Also, on the subject of Danzig as Wolverine. I heard about the Wizard thing as well, but I also heard that he was offered the part but turned it down for some reason. Who knows. He's not that great of an actor anyways... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Who could play Beast? You need a short guy, but at the same time a big guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 14, 2003 A while back, I heard The Rock was being considered to play The Beast. I don't know if The Beast is going to be in the movies, though. We say Hank McCoy briefly in X2, and he looked perfectly normal. I know he used "image inducers" in the comics, but I don't know if something like that would retain credibility with a movie audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 The Rock is way too frigging tall to be Hank McCoy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 When the comic first started Hank wasn't the blue furry creature we know and love today. He was just an ordinary looking guy who could jump around like an ape. Later his mutation went further and caused the blue fur and all. So they could get away with either in the movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites